Frozen4sioux

Like it or not, this is in FACT, not true. ALL sides of the argument agree in this point. Arguing about who does and who doesn't has taken up pages but the legacy obviously means something more to a program of certain distinction.

Id disagree on this. Seems the Open records requesr could have been part of the original story. Me rhinks they wouldnt have seen the light of day without Ports blog.

It appears a very fair point.

Assigning assumption to erroneous interpretation. Just because you keep saying this phrase doesn't make it more true or impart consequence. How to re-phrase .. " In my opinion, it would better serve the university if REA would compromise with the University's requests to streamline branding. I feel that this would be more in the spirit of the concept of an "overall benefit to UND as a whole".." .... gunna get you edumacated yet.

Or misguided jealous hate filled internet warriors... either or i guess. Whats the difference between the two...... We need the UNLV alum to continue their gracious generosity. We dont need the other.

No. It's not. If you remove the bird mark negative space, the area left does not form the Letter "N" the font would be off on the far left of the N ... the green space does not accuratley portray the N. I can provide example later to visual explain.

Sure. But that doesnt carry much weight as the Curse of the Ben Brien logo maybe held more water .... So what really works is "UND" How about just using the newer "UND" wordmark.

UND has never won a game with this on the ice. Superstitious bunch i guess.

On a few occasions posts have been extreamly critical of mine and ive have seen responses that have been coupled together, a while back (months maybe more) there was a reply to a reply that used thebsame login and was deleated right away. Making it quite obvious the poster forgot to sign out and sign in under the other name. So with such similar attitudes and post historys it is more than fair to call into question the possibility of multiple logins used by one user. The usual suspects always show up together to spew the propaganda.

I will support the scholarships and programs I wish to, as you can. I am not attuned to the environment of Miss McGarry's posterior but am very great full the program I love has benefited so greatly from her families generosity. The difference here is that I would in no way be jealous or try to tear down the support of another donors gifts to other programs. Man your logins are just seething with hate today. I feel it, it warms me.

They don't have the Hawks logo on the field either. That's a fact.

AGAIN ... NO! you are incapable of understanding how to analyze information or present it. Your opinions were eviscerated for their lack of mental competency. Your manifesto was evaluated and deemed a massive failure of logic and factual information. And you still think that's opinion. Its not. Its just fact. You are faulty in your conclusions and assumptions. Period. That's the end story here, you don't have to fall in line with my opinion but when you put out false and misleading information you can't just claim the critical nature of that to be "one-sided " or project the thoughts and feelings of a few people upon an entire demographic. Which you do almost every time you post!! its disingenuous of the facts. This and the other logins used can whine all you want about Hockey, REA, whatever but..... Its the Top Dog, the Focal point of the Athletic department, plays in the highest and most Visible national conference, and generates by far the largest revenue, media attention , and national notoriety for the University and you have to just accept that and move on instead of constantly trying to sink that boat in order to float yours.

Kennedys response should have been, "that is reasonable and a good strategy to integrate acceptance. How do you feel we can further this synergy in the ice arena? Your help in this process is greatly appreciated."

How is this so difficult for you to understand? you keep saying things not based in facts but fantasied reality of misappropriated opinions, This is not hard.

If REA paid to have teh Logo sewn into the Alerus turf, would that be an acceptable solution for this year? Would that be a compromise? I don't think even a logo at center court of the Betty would be all that offensive to the dyed in the wool Sioux Crowd. If i was Kennedy I would pick my battles a bit better and reach for compromise over contention.

In no way, I don't get offended by the Fhawk logo, we don't cry, I laugh at it, but am not offended. An "athlete" that is emotionally damaged by seeing the words "North Dakota" instead of a logo, I have trouble supporting that.

Turf can be painted in a matter of hours, no excuse to wait till 2020. Quite a few places actually, it has been integrated throughout in flags banners, signage and décor. I spent many hours in all areas of the building ice level on up and the logo is much more prominent than many would have people believe. Hodgson outlined the areas in todays posted emails.

Respectfully fixed your post. Jodi will have no trouble finding work. Thinking he a tremendously quality professional will be removed from Arena operations is EXACTLY the reason why people feel that UND operation of the REA will be an abysmal failure that will hurt ALL athletics even further.

the open records request certainly does shed an light on some disingenuous reporting. I believe the Hodgsons response to the email from the ss.com board member today is a much more professional and honest approach to this that would have stavced off much of the bickering. Like it or not, it was the truth, it was open and honest.

I see this point and its a fair criticism, the process was a circus but having one part of it not as open as the others does seem to not fit. I do think SME proprietary information on the other logo types has something of a part in it.

The president of the university has made it an official position that the student athletes are "Demoralized" by not seeing a logo at center court. Childish doesn't begin to describe that label he himself has applied. I give less than two craps about the logo at center court, it matters little really, Its the principle of how the president is going about pissing off large numbers of donors AND the big BIG donors in the process. DONT PISS OF THE DONOR BASE. Basically the first line on a President's job description.

Would it have happened without the Engelstad blessing? Or would UND have had to pay much much more for a standalone arena ans support staff? Is that not taken into account?

This whole process makes me want to change donations from the Champions Club to the REA Foundation. Rob, Did you ever put in a records request about the 7 or 8 proposed logos that SME submitted to the university prior to selection of this one?

Great job in reporting this it seems that the Herald could have done this in the first place. My take. If our student athletes are to snowflake hurt that they at "demoralized" by walking over the "Fighting Hawks" wordmark and then only seeing the branding wordmark at center court. DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YA WHERE THE GOOD LORD SPLIT YA!!! I'm sure they may find a safespace somewhere at the University of Hurt Feelings or the campus of Whiningbitch College. This is basically like being invited into another persons house to live and then demanding they paint the walls the color they like. No appreciation. They can play in Hyslop. This is a process that can not be muscled I believe Kennedy has blown this way out of proportion, the demands of financial harm are far fetched at best. At this point in time Kennedy has to have some understanding that if he calls out this fight he is not going to win. Five years from now.......maybe. But he wont be here then anyway.

Yes. You smoking a J, as the kids say, and hoping for Tarkington to pass for 3 TDS in the third Period doesn't make someone go into work and miss their family time. So this passes the ND smell test.