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Official UND Football Regime Change Thread
UND-FB-FAN replied to fightingsioux4life's topic in Football
The offense is incredibly basic and quarterback unfriendly - that I agree with. The offense's success is predicated on simply having better players than the opposing team; no scheme by Rudolph to try offset that at all. I will say, though, that this is apparently how Bubba wants it. Disappointing to a degree. One cannot overlook the defense though. They were horrible in 2017, and that is not okay for a program based on its defensive identity (Bubba and Schmidt). The team had poor depth; why wasn't this addressed earlier on? The staff has been in place for four seasons. This type of a season was set up far before the injuries of this season actually occurred. That is where the fault lies.- 429 replies
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Official UND Football Regime Change Thread
UND-FB-FAN replied to fightingsioux4life's topic in Football
Back in 2014 and 2015, the staff brought in a lot of linebackers and corners that eventually just left. I'll do the research later and post names to prove my point. I agree that the 2014 class was fragmented due to time constraints with the hiring of the staff, but the staff had 2015, 2016, and 2017 to correct this. That is where I find this inexcusable. College football coaching staffs dictate the formation of the roster - that's reality. If you can't recruit, you're limited as a program. Pure and simple. UND took its lumps in 2014 and to some degree 2015. We should be past the "depth and recruiting excuse" by now people.- 429 replies
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UND-FB-FAN replied to fightingsioux4life's topic in Football
Drop off is an understatement, more like nose-dive off a cliff. The young players forced into action at LB and corner were not able to play effectively this season, either due to youth or ability (not in the mood to argue that point again). Either way, though, it's fair to say this team needed more sophomores and juniors as backups and they just weren't there. That is on the staff for failure to properly recruit and maintain the roster. There's been a lot of missed linebacker and corner recruits in addition to player attrition at those spots during the Bubba years already.- 429 replies
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When was the last time Bubba beat one of Stitt's teams?
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Those *NFL* teams had possibly the three best defenses in *NFL* history. But yes, there are always exceptions. I wouldn't aim for UND to be an exception.
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Even with a tremendous offensive line, good defenses can stack the box and stop the run. Without top quarterback play, it becomes very difficult against the best teams. Like I mentioned earlier, you need both quarterback play and offensive line play if you want to compete for championships. Sure you can still make the playoffs with a very good offensive line and average quarterback play, but who wants to settle for that?
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That's true, but quarterback play is damn important too. Can't win championships without quarterback play. All in all, I'd say you need both.
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UND partners with Addidas for department wide athletic wear deal
UND-FB-FAN replied to NoDakFan's topic in Community
Biggest change should be for men's basketball; Jones' squad should be wearing Adidas by next season. Brand consistency across the board and retail sales will be the two reasons this deal is significant. About time UND got this done - good work. -
Consider Ketteringham a part of that class. If UND has to rely on Zimmerman or Boltmann at QB for 2018, I'll go with the prediction of UND having a losing season again.
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I'm too biased to wager against UND making the postseason. I sure hope they are there and dammit win the whole thing. With that said, when I try my hardest to ignore my biases, I am having a hard time seeing this team make the playoffs next season. I'm going to hope for the best but expect, well, let's just say not the best. Go UND!
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Ha apparently ... sure doesn't seem like it. I guess I'm also including the transfer QB Nate Ketteringham. Hopefully he is the real deal. Receivers Griebel and McKinney could be new contributors for 2018. Rest of the receiving corps largely returns also. Perhaps Kruse and Jenkins compete for play at the offensive line. Noah Larson could be darn good considering the talk surrounding him this fall. The defensive line freshmen also have been talked up. There could be some surprises, and for UND's sake, I sure hope they are all pleasant surprises. Go UND
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You don't believe 3-8 will affect the program's progress moving forward? That's more interesting than anything else you've said. We'll see.
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A 3 win season will do that ... If UND had poor depth this season following 7-4 and 9-3, what will 3-8 bring? The 2017 recruiting class that redshirted is the only shot UND has at being a contender in 2018.
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I don't think a big year at QB is possible with the system Rudolph runs. The offense will either have a bunch of rushing yards or no success; I'm not opposed to Rudolph's system as long as the offensive line wins their battles consistently. In 2017, that wasn't always happening and the passing game was non-existent. In 2015, the year was about the offensive line and the benefit their blocking provided to freshmen Santiago and Oliveira. .
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I do recall his progress up until that 2014 SUU game; however, I think the receiving corps and running game (or lack thereof) would've still limited his success that season. I understand your point of view, just don't completely agree with it. Now, if he was in a system with better receivers and running backs, it could've been a different story.
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Mollberg had all the tangibles to be a good quarterback. I think he just needed the coaching and system to put it altogether. Unfortunately, Rudolph didn't provide him that. The Mussman system in 2013 wasn't good either as the running game and defense were non-existent (throwing to Hardin and Golladay were pluses, though).
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Official UND Football Regime Change Thread
UND-FB-FAN replied to fightingsioux4life's topic in Football
Mussman recruited them, Bubba coached them .... There's still a disconnect. UND can get better players than most Big Sky Conference schools (hence the 2015 and 2016 season), but they can't out-recruit based on *current* facilities and success most of the MVFC schools. The necessary component for future success is very good coaching/scheming in addition to good recruiting. Let's see if that is present. I have my doubts.- 429 replies
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UND-FB-FAN replied to fightingsioux4life's topic in Football
I think your wishful thinking could be spoiled in 2018. Let's see. The wins in 2015 and 2016 weren't collected due to superb coaching by any means. The players made several improbable plays and won many very close games.- 429 replies
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The hopefulness of the final point is telling. We'll see; I'm not holding my breath.
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UND-FB-FAN replied to fightingsioux4life's topic in Football
I sense an exhaustion of innovation and motivation. Bubba ball wore thin for the 2017 season. In fact, 2017's embarrassment of a season for UND could be the beginning of the end. Let's see how 2018 goes. Go UND- 429 replies
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The lack of a screen game with Santiago is an absolute sin. Just a disgrace - Rudolph is just a bit too traditional and narrow-minded in his offensive thinking. UND needs new blood in its staff for the offense; since Bubba won't do it, new blood across the entire staff might actually be the solution this time next year.
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They aren't that good and it now all makes sense. UND stuck with them better than UND did with some of their Big Sky Conference opponents. In fact, UND looked better against Utah than they did against Southern Utah ... upsetting. UND had issues from game 1; thus, the injuries were only part of the problem.
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I did not assume that. It's quite evident, though, that the good teams around the country have a higher percentage of contributors in their classes than the poor teams. That is, well, the foundation of college football: recruiting. In terms of LB and corner, for example, Bubba has done poor recruiting and with attrition. The disaster at those two positions completely derailed this season.
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@Old School Guy, please read comprehensively before replying and assuming an argumentative stance. I agreed with you, as I prefaced my comment. The statement "If you ..." was hypothetical and not directed at you. I could have worded that differently. I believe the shortcomings of the defense ARE in fact everybit as concerning as Rudolph and his playcalling, scheming, and player evaluations. In fact, Bubba wants UND to have an identity of good aggressive defense and ball-control (i.e. boring but safe) offense. The defense lapsed because of the injuries AND the players behind the injured; they didn't play well. Many of those players that did not play well in 2017 will never play well for UND in the future; this is the concern. Bubba and his staff had produced insufficient defensive depth for the 2017 campaign and it cost the team this season.
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I agree with you. Let's keep this logical and linear: Injuries + Poor Depth = Poor Play The injuries were unfortunate, but they also occurred at positions that were ill-equipped to handle such loses. This season was a combination of bad luck and poor recruiting/depth. The scheme can also be questioned based on the poor play of the backups and inability of the offense to compensate (the offense had their starters available for most of the season). If you are one who thinks the coaches had nothing to do with this horrible season for UND, then you're clueless. The depth was horrid in some spots and Bubba has had 4 recruiting classes (2014,2015, 2016, 2017) to address that. It doesn't take 5+ seasons to correct depth unless you are horribly incompetent at talent evaluation and recruiting; hence my concerns with this staff.