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I can't wait to hear what the excuse is for next season. Too hard of schedule? Not enough time? Mussman? Who knows ...

Outside of one season, UND has done !@#$ at the Division I level. For all you blow hards, UND football has a long way to go. I'm calling a spade a spade while the rest of you represent ignorance is bliss.

3-8 isn't average - that's piss poor. Average is 24-22.

Right! Due to player attrition, all football coaches should have 10 years after being hired before their initial evaluation. Send that out to A.D.'s across the country; they'd love to hear it.

24-22 after four seasons. Mediocrity for 10 seasons before UND football is maybe deemed deserving of more? What was Hak's winning percentage after his first four seasons? Presumably much better than 0.52. ALERT: People need to raise their expectations for UND football. I'm sorry for those who get tired of me saying that, but I'm going to repeat it because you folks who expect average football out of UND are an ongoing problem source.

Umm ... you just made my point. Thanks.

The culture might already be irreversibly damaged, but let's see what happens next year. Either way, I think this year showed the deficiencies of our scheme and coaching staff. Yes, having better players available will lead to better results. That's not rocket science. But I just think more could have been done with this season than what the coaches and players were able to produce.

Right, why hire a coach that could be successful for UND and move on? Look what Bohl did for NDSU - what a shame! Instead, lets hire for long-term mediocrity! Gotta love it!

And if you have a piss poor talent evaluator and play-caller on offense, your offense always goes to !@#$. Both sides of the ball weren't working this year; thus the mere 3 wins. Folks, you don't go from 9 wins to 3 wins without major catastrophe. UND lost to arguably inferior teams this year (Sac State, UC Davis, Montana State); 6 wins was definitely doable this season despite the injuries. Things absolutely fell apart and people need to be held accountable.

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Quick turnarounds can happen in this day and age. That was 1989 and Division II athletics. No comparison, Darrell. Nice try though. Some of us don't want to have a good season every three and play this roller coaster game. That is ridiculous and reflects a hopeless program. NDSU wouldn't stand for that crap. Hell, South Dakota State wouldn't either. Lets hope this year was just an anomaly. We'll know at this time next year.

Bubba has a 24-22 record after 4 seasons. Pretty average. Losing season next season and he should get the boot. Having a losing record after five seasons is more than enough to qualify a dismissal. I hope it goes the other way, obviously, and we have a winning season. I'll be in the stands irregardless. Time to look at the record and not just whether the guy will buy you a cup of coffee. Being nice will only get you so far.

There are true freshman and redshirt freshman across the country that make big plays every Saturday, but typically they shouldn't play, correct. Remember Santiago as a freshman or Reyes as a redshirt freshman. Just look at Toivonen and Wanzek last season. Remember Grady on the OL? List goes on and on. It can happen. Also, and possibly most importantly, teams with depth don't have the backup be a freshman - sophomore or junior is more ideal.

Won't happen. He's running an offense from 1980. Only way around it is with great players that are purely better than the competition.

This is a two-sided issue. While one can scream injuries, another can conveniently counter-argue with poor recruiting. I think the injuries were certainly unfortunate and bad luck to a degree, but it also showed that this coaching staff has dropped the ball on recruiting. Recruiting has to be much better.

Both sides of the ball were bad; thus, only three wins. I'm completely endorsing that.

Good coaching always reflects playing to the strength of the players, not playing a game that reflects only your personal philosophy. Sure you can recruit to your philosophy, but when adversity hits like the injuries this year, you have to adjust to the players that you now have available. The coaches didn't do that this year at UND, obviously. 3 wins and 8 loses are never excusable and the fact that people are trying to justify it is even more laughable. At some point with the defense playing so poor, the offense just needed to put up more points or the defense needed to be fixed. Neither happened.

Sure that notion makes sense, but most people who sat around me still didn't even know UND is going to the MVFC. That news hasn't caught on yet for some reasons, probably because the propaganda from Fargo that UND and NDSU are on different levels of classification/competitiveness still resonates within the average fan. With all that said, this 3-8 season won't help attendance next season at all. Even with the improved gameday experience, most folks focused on the loses.

Well, on offense, the backup quarterback situation was a disaster with Brad Heidlebaugh. He can't play DI. That has been well discussed on this forum. I feel the backup linebacker situation was not good, with Rastas and Nevermann being incapable at this level this year. Also having Disterhaupt play inside was not ideal at all - he's an outside player and his playing inside was bad. Murray and Grier were ghosts. Tyus Carter and Blubaugh were not DI caliber at corner this year. They were lost and panicked on deep balls consistently. Ty Shannon wasn't horrible at safety, but he was out there too early. The other players I've mentioned, though, weren't showing skill in addition to being uncomfortable. All in all, the QB, LB, and Secondary depth issues were significant. The QB issue is largely where the Paul Rudolph dismissal topic caught momentum. I am of the opinion that he shouldn't be QB coach; his offense is not QB friendly at all. In fact, it's horrible. Ask any former college or pro QB who was worth a damn: the worst coaching is run, run, and now pass on 3rd and 8. Defense always knows what's coming and will make you look horrible.

Wow, your marketing mind is quite unique. Get a grip.

I'm in the same boat. Prior to this season, I was asked by a few couples if getting season tickets was worth it. Expecting a top 10 season as UND had the highest preseason expectations since being a DI program, I gave them my spiel and they all bought. Now I look like a chump to them. They won't renew and probably won't ever listen to me either. Good job UND football -

UND lost 45-7 in the *THIRD* game of the season. The beginning was the end for this year's UND football team. Injuries weren't everything, obviously. Players win the games, but coaches can lose them. The coaches at UND haven't been able to improvise at all when adversity hits, including going back to 2015. They accept defeat just as you did with your comment, even if you preface it. Competitiveness should never be lost with injuries if the coaching staff and depth is flexible. UND's coaches aren't going anywhere because no one wants them - they are stale and lack innovation. Only way around it is very good players with experience.

Oh well, let's *hope* (all this program is good for lately) for a huge turnaround in 2018. My support may be wavering by then, though. Good lord.

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Yeah, because a 3-8 season during an expected top 10 year is completely excusable by injuries ... hell, the injuries were so devastating that UND didn't even have to be held to competiveness standards ... Ridiculous, this season was screwed from the get go and I can't believe people don't realize that. There needs to be better leadership, teaching/coaching, and obviously better play out on the field. The backup players looked like Division III players, certainly not Division I backups, even if they were young. No skill whatsoever. There's perhaps a reason why many of these recruits that Bubba gets have nothing but DII offers.