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Tom Miller has mentioned it multiple times but said he hasn't been able to figure out who it may be.

I think you'd be able to have a pretty good idea of who is getting some scholarship money and who isn't but the tough part would be knowing who has partials and how much of a partial they are getting (1/4, 1/2, 3/4's, etc).

This whole thing is a dumb argument, but I know that UND has had players sit out football games for missing classes.

I think this would be a lot tougher to decipher for FCS teams due to how scholarships are allowed to be split. FBS teams have 85 scholarships and are allowed to give partial's, but it will still count as a whole scholarship towards their total of 85 (so no real point in giving partials). FCS teams are allowed 63 scholarships and are allowed to give partials, with a max of 85 student-athletes receiving scholarships. The overall limit is that no more than 95 players can participate in practice prior to the school's first day of classes or first game, whichever comes first. After that date, the participation limitation is removed. So if your 63 scholarships are spread among the max of 85 players, you can have no more than 10 walk-ons at the beginning of fall camp, though the number could be more if scholarships are spread among the max of 85.

So you're accusing the UND PD of being in on the cover-up?

My mistake. You are the only one who knows anyone or has any sources. You have no clue who I am or who I know. I (and many others) just don't feel a need to drop other people's names at every chance. UND Investigation UND PD Investigation But I guess those aren't from unnamed sources close to the team like you have.

Gotcha. The police department and University's investigation found it wasn't a hazing incident, but your anonymous source says it was. I'll remember that anonymous sources are OK as being credible when discussing things with you.

Source please. Per your rules, you now have the responsibility of backing up your statement with fact.

Tom Miller saying series will be renewed but 2014 in Vermillion isn't correct. USD plays NAU in 2014 instead. Very strange. USD's schedule is now full for 2014. If the game is actually 2015 instead, UND's schedule would then be full for that year. Since USD in 2014 is wrong, UND currently has 1 game to be scheduled in both 2014 (if UND wants to play 12 games) and 2015 (10 scheduled, only 11 allowed). Wonder what the thoughts are for 2014. Currently sitting at 5 home games and 6 away games. Would be nice if a 12th game is scheduled, it would be a home game, but with the scheduling problems teams are having, getting the away part of a home and home (with substantial buyout ) would be understandable but not ideal, especially considering fans are getting 7 home games this year. Missouri State almost has to be a home/home.

The contract was for 2015 in Fargo and 2017 in Grand Forks only.

Both teams have week 3 of the season open (Sept 19th). 2015 was always the most tossed around year for the series to restart.

Oregon doesn't put the brakes on either. Would definitely be a fun place to go watch a game though.

UND will travel to USD in 2014 per Jeremy Hoeck of the Yankton Press. I assume it has to be the front end of a home and home agreement. Nice, close OOC game. Guess we get to see how UND stacks up against MVFC teams in back to back weeks as UND plays Missouri State the week before. This also gives UND 12 games for 2014 but only 5 home games. Good OOC schedule with San Jose State, Robert Morris and the two MVFC teams. Homes games will be Robert Morris, Montana (for 3rd year in a row), Portland State, Weber State and Northern Arizona. Not sure on USD's 2015 schedule, but UND has the 3rd week of the season for an OOC game. USD's inon-conference schedule is impressive in 2014: Oregon, Montana, UND. Anyone have any idea on the Missouri St game? I don't recall seeing that on the schedule before but could be wrong. Is it part of some sort of home/home? I can't imagine they paid us money to play one game there.

Jeremy Hoeck, sports editor at the Yankton Press, tweeted they are getting $525K for the game.

I am specifically talking about Matt Greene. His donation is listed on the Donors page on the Spirit Campaign website under "Major Gifts: $25,000 - $99,999 [A-G]". Learn to read.

My argument was never hockey players, yours was. You are the one that differentiates them, not me. Regardless, Matt Greene is absolutely on the list of donors to the Spirit campaign along with a specific page detailing his donation to the Spirit campaign, which I linked to. And again, the Spirit donation list isn't an all inclusive donation list. You have no idea what other donations hockey players have given back to the University, you just assume they haven't. Edit: You were trying to make this same argument last August and Matt Greene's donation was pointed out to you then. Seriously??

Are you sure you read the list? Matt Greene is on there and he has signed a multi-million dollar contract. I included former athletes and not just hockey players because I don't really differentiate. Kleinsasser is an easy example of a former athlete that gives back to UND. That list isn't an all-inclusive donor list either, that is just for the Spirit campaign, just because they aren't on that list doesn't mean they haven't given back. Also, many of the guys who have signed the big contracts are still young, I don't think it is a stretch that in the future we will see their names on donor lists as well as they get older.

I feel bad for those people. All programs have them and the reflect poorly. I'm not going to call out college kids by name, but looking through the Forum there has been a handful that have been in the court section and not mentioned elsewhere. Also, it doesn't pertain to just violations of the law either.

The same as NDSU fans are enjoying it now. No one is naive enough to think UND athletes are not going to get in trouble, the difference is this petition fraud thing won't go away due to the stupidity of those involved. The interesting thing is I've seen a lot more UND incidents reported lately and a lot more NDSU ones go unreported, at least as it relates to current athletes.

Not sure why you need to make everything about you and derail conversations or why I indulge in it, especially considering you never back your statements up... But there was just an article about Matt Greene and his donation. And if you look through the donation list on the Spirit campaign, you'll see a lot of former UND athletes on that list.

Wow is this embarassing...

The fact that there is as much discussion on it as there has been makes me think the B1G has already won the battle. By not playing FCS, they have brought up their SOS in the majority of people's minds whether or not they actually have on paper. Pretty good strategy by them, in people's mind perception becomes reality.

For the amount of trouble the NDSU football team has been in the last few months that hasn't made the newspaper for both team violations and actual violations of the law, I don't think I'd be sitting too high on your pedestal...

This I agree with. No comment from Bohl or Taylor is necessary. But to those that think it doesn't reflect on the NDSU athletic department and they won't be associated with this are living in a dream world. You get the bad with the good, you don't get it both ways (again not directed specifically at you).

Why is playing time relevant? If he's on the team, he's on the team. Or are you saying that different players should be handled differently based on where they fit into the heirarchy of the team? I could never see that happening...