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Just for reference on where those would rank among linebackers who participated at the combine along with the top performer in parenthesis: Vertical Jump: 36", 5th out of 14 (40" by Feeney from Washington) Broad Jump: 9'10", T-12th out of 15 (11'1" by Lee from OSU) Bench: 36, 1st out of 15 (30 by Goodson from Clemson) 40 yd dash: 4.54, 3rd out of 15 (4.47 by Lee from OSU)

I don't think his point was that the risk of a new coach may or may not be worth the reward, it was the risk with that particular coach is nowhere near worth the reward. To the latter point, I agree.

Very possible but the biggest reason tends to be for recruiting purposes.

This is about as accurate and level-headed of a take on the situation I've seen in a while. People can argue it all they want but the reality is, there is more to a decision than looking only at what happens on the court (which I don't think anyone would argue has had more disappointments than it should). It would be a tough call letting a coach go into a lame duck year but unless there is some sort of trade-off to give the appearance of a one year extension, this seems about right.

Being smug is more effective when you at least have partial knowledge of situations.

It wouldn't have been surprising for them to have some cuts as there were a lot of cuts made across the University as required by the governor. Athletics took on $1 million themselves. Those are all required by the Big Sky. The only sports that aren't are M&W hockey, M&W swimming and diving and baseball. If there are sports cut, look to that list for the options (while making sure to take Title IX into account).

Random because I don't believe the band or their budget falls under athletics though they obviously work closely together on a lot of things.

They sure do have some interesting opinions.

Maybe if you exclude the student section but even then, that's a stretch. Unfortunately for you, they are part of the crowd and the most vocal. But considering how FargoU fans are, I can see why you legend it is such a small number.

Why did you leave out the rest of it?

I'd argue that UND has been the third best team in the Big Sky since they joined, thus above average in conference. However the gap between where they are compared to Weber/UM is sizable and I've already said multiple times they need to make the jump and be there with those two every year. Again, there's a difference between stating a coach isn't going to be fired and saying they should or shouldn't be.

Yikes, that ended closer than it should have! Nice win ladies, on to Reno!

Really? Scheels sponsored it but it was most definitely an NDSU related event. Otherwise it'd be pretty strange that there were NDSU employees going around with the trophies and present at every stop, including Klieman in Fargo.

We have different definitions of what sticking up for someone actually means. Please point out where I praised him last season because I can't recall it. I've never advocated for him to receive an extension (though have recently stated what Faison's options might be). I was very specific in saying he wasn't going to get fired last season, again because I understand contracts and budgets (and I was correct for those reasons), but stating someone isn't going to lose their job isn't the same as saying they shouldn't. You live in Fargo, of course you're going to hear about NDSU.

Back and forth with MSU. 1 point game with 5 minutes to go.

You're ranting is comical. Pointing out where UND stands in conference road wins since they joined to put things in perspective is not sticking up for the coach, it is pointing out actual numbers, especially when I stated they need to move out of the clear second tier into the first tier. Saying that a coach isn't going to be fired because of his contract situation isn't sticking up for him, it is having an understanding of results, college athletics and real life budget situations. Then mention a transitioning D-II team but then leave out that your time frame for judging UND/Jones is when they were exactly that for longer than they haven't been. I could not care less about NDSU, what I hate is that you will, without fail, bring them up. But since you did: Signature win is such a joke of a phrase, what does it even mean? They absolutely boat raced a team that made it to the round of 32 in the NCAA tournament and ended with an butRPI of 32. If you lose excitement over a team because of one game, look in the mirror, that's on you, not that coach. Was it a discouraging game? Of course, the team played like hot garbage, couldn't make a shot and made some incredibly dumb turnovers. Other than rambling and making your favorite go-to accusation of anyone who doesn't immediately want Jones run out of Grand Forks with pitchforks being his best friend/brother/relative/etc, you still didn't say what Jones should have done differently last night.

Looking at their road record this year, yes, get over them. Using them as an example doesn't help your point. I guess I haven't seen more about NDSU basketball than I have UND this season so I'm not even how to answer that. I fully believe the Big Sky is harder to win on the road in than the Summit, the travel is significantly different. I don't really care about OOC at this point. What exactly starts at the top? Let's be specific, what should Jones have done different last night?

Get over NDSU. They were 4-10 on the road this year including 1-7 in conference. Related to UND, they have the 3rd most road wins in Big Sky conference play since joining. Its not an easy league to win in the road on. They are in the second tier, a clear step behind UM and Weber and you'll get no arguments from me that they need to make improvements to move up as equals as those two teams, but put things into perspective a little bit.

Average to above average teams struggle on the road against good teams? Who would have thought?! That's not a recurring theme with UND, that's a recurring theme in all sports. All kidding aside, not a good performance last night regardless of who gets the blame. The best game plan in the world doesn't matter when the teams can't hit the side of a barn.. Montana was smarting from Weber handling them last weekend and came out a lot better than UND. Not sure why, UND had been playing very well as of late. Hoping the can bounce back Saturday, get the 4 seed and go from there.

Not going to win any games when your two best players shoot 3-20 and have 10 turnovers combined and your two sharpshooters go 2-7 on 3 pointers. Hopefully it was just an off night for Q and there isn't something else wrong, this team goes as he goes. Ugly game, turn the page and on to Bozeman. UND still can get the 4 seed if they win and ISU loses in Idaho.

No. I like the rest of your suggestions though.

NDSU fans claim the only reason that SDSU has such big fan support at Summit basketball tournament is because its in SDSU's backyard (completely ignoring the part where NDSU fans just don't bother to show up). Now you're trying to say that Brookings:Sioux Falls = Fargo:Grand Forks? Do you get dizzy with all the spin you repeat from board to board?

UND currently an 8 point underdog and at +315 to win outright.

I agree to a point but your examples are quite a bit different than Minnesota/Wisconsin/Michigan/Michigan State in a whole lot of ways. The money, facilities and now FCOA are there even when the fan support is down plus they still carry the B1G clout that matters to people regardless of the reality on how the teams or conference are actually doing. The fact a couple of the B1G have fallen so far and aren't even competitive is pretty mind-blowing.

Where did he mention the Big Sky in the post you quoted? He was talking about the MVC.