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Well this will be awkward.....one of NDSU's top recruits, who happen to hold an offer from KSU, is going to be in Fargo for a visit this weekend. Wonder how much time he'll spend talking with Klieman? https://www.inforum.com/sports/football/931876-One-of-NDSUs-top-incoming-recruits-will-visit-Fargo-this-weekend

You said "I think Chaves will be better than Faison was in that regard" implying that the extensions were ill-timed or not deserved at the time they were given which I pointed out they that isn't really accurate. You can argue he could have let Jones go early, but gave him one more year to prove himself instead of buying out the contract and Jones performed. I'm not sure anyone even knows what Brewster's contract situation currently is though I have to imagine he's getting towards the end of his last extension.

EMAW!

Figured there was something.

Not that there is a ton of overlap, but the limitations are that he can't recruit any player to his new school that the school hasn't had contact with or unless the recruit initiates the contact. Good luck enforcing that. Bohl didn't have his previous AD at a P5 school. GT stuck his neck out big time with the fan base on this one and his history with Klieman is the only reason why. No other AD would have given him an interview with that big of (perceived) jump. Still can't believe they are keeping him on. He'll be in Manhattan tomorrow for a press conference. Whoever is going with him is working on figuring out how to salvage their new recruiting class while the coaches who are staying/being left behind have their full focus on SDSU and making sure they don't lose a few of their top recruits. Anyone but SDSU or maybe EWU, I would say it wouldn't matter with the team they have this year, but it will be interesting to watch it play out. Guessing someone on staff gets the nod to replace CK, though I could easily see them finding some loophole to completely ignore state hiring requirements and bring in an outside candidate in short order.

Klieman took the phone call to accept the job while at practice. KSU gives him $12+ million over the next 5 years and you think they aren't in a hurry to get him working? They have something like 9 commits, dead period starts Monday and early signing day on the 19th. I'm sure he's laser focused...

At the time their extensions were signed: Jones' contract was up and he had just made the NCAA tournament and was named Big Sky coach of the year. Bubba was going into the final year on his contract and signed his extension after making the playoffs as a seeded team and being Big Sky coach of the year. A more important part of that contract was a boost in the assistant coaching pool and preventing him from going into a lame duck year. I can't remember what Brewster's contract situation and apparently finding details on it aren't exactly easy for some reason.

Sagarin is a computer algorithm and it isn't done by USA Today, they just host the listing on their site. It has admitted issues when connecting and comparing FCS/FBS teams as there are so few games between the teams (a little over 100 this year) and trying to tie together 255 teams.

16,400, over 2,500 short of capacity for a quarterfinal game. Apparently winning solves attendance issues until you do it too much...

I wouldn't believe a word Larry Scott says. Absolutely terrible at his job.

I hope him and his whole staff navigate those landmines to the best of their ability.

Yeah but we didn't have any All-Conference players this year!?!?!

Can you answer what my first post that you quoted has to do with that? Everyone and their mother saw a big drop-off coming after that senior class graduated. Again, it is easy to be loud and uninformed (or not care) when you aren't the one writing the checks or responsible for making a budget work. Just because others get that and comprehend how they apply to real life situations, doesn't mean they don't want change or are complacent, they just understand reality and would rather focus their current efforts on how to make the best of the current situation until it can be changed. I'm all for bringing in a big name coach or even a rising up-and-comer (that will come with a matching salary) to consistently dominate the Summit but there are a lot of hurdles overcome to make that happen. Wonder if there is a program just a bit south of here who is having the same regrets right now.

I'm not sure what your point is, it looks like I was pretty spot on with what I said. That team did exactly what I predicted, turning it around, going 12-6 from that day through the conference tournament andthen made it to the title game, where they lost to Weber on their home court while playing without multiple starters and the first guy off the bench (Brekke, Webb and Schuler). And that's not even mentioning the guys who were dinged up and still gutting through it. So my "opinion" on what would happen the rest of that season was actually lower than their actual results.

In general, people are clueless and it's easy to have opinions (especially those hot takes) when you aren't the one responsible for writing checking and balancing budgets. If people would take time to look into realities or talk with those making decisions, they would probably understand things a bit more. That doesn't mean they are accepting poor results or complacency, it means they understand how things actually work. I'm fully on board with a new coach after the season (or a few seasons ago) and bringing in a top candidate by offering a $300K salary, but it isn't going to happen and it isn't because people don't care, it's because of realistic expectations. Not sure what else there is to say about it.

Nah, didn't say anything even close to that. But I'm also not going to pretend that contract terms and "logic" don't exist. I'm sure it's easy to pretend we're in an alternate reality where those things don't play into decisions, but in the real world, they do. Fact is, the BB program is underfunded worse than the FB program. They are playing huge guarantee games just to increase their budget, which is still lagging. Look at the turnover in assistant coaches, how is that sort of instability good for any program? Saying "the money will come from somewhere" doesn't make it actually appear. Like I said, the coach will have this season to get his team on the right track (which I think they have the talent to make some noise once they figure it out) and next season to use that talent and prove himself again. I don't see a lame duck situation this time around. Just for reference on the dollar amounts we're talking (using 2016-17 numbers): The expense side of the MBB budget is $1.6 million with almost 25% of that being scholarships. Coaching pool (head coach plus assistants) was $357K (full disclosure, this has increased with Jones raise). To buy out the head coach fro the next two years, would require somewhere around $150K each for two years, which is almost 10% of the MBB budget (one could hope/assume he would get a new job to offset a portion of that, but there is no guarantee). On top of that, a new head coach plus assistants is going to require a significant increase in salary (for reference, Richman makes $190K, Craig Smith is at $275K and Otzelberger apparently makes $375K!!). So figure an at minimum, an additional $150K for the coaching pool just to get to a baseline Basically, just to do what you want, the MBB budget has to see an increase by around 20% out of thin air. This isn't a defense of the situation or being happy with results, it are the facts that the athletic director has to work with when making decisions.

Yeah, just a bit more complex than that but sounds a lot better when you just put it out like that right? The beginning of this year is turning out as expected when you unexpectedly lose a conference of the year type player a year early to grad transfer, your second best player has to sit out the first semester and you are trying to figure out a rotation with 11 guys who have never played a minute of D1 basketball. Other than a year or two, it seems like it is always something (conference, nickname, injuries, grad transfers, etc). Bad luck, coaching or a combination of that plus other things out of anyone's control, I'm not sure what the main issue is. Jones has 2 1/2 years left on his contract, he'll finish out this year and have an incredibly young team coming back next year that will have gained some valuable experience. Will be prove it time or it's likely someone will get to inherit a pretty veteran team.

Luckily, didn't have a chance to watch last night. Seems like right now there are too many guys playing as they try to figure out the right combinations and rotations, which I guess when you have 11 guys on the roster who have never played a minute of D-1 basketball, that is going to happen. I assume Marlon is back right as Summit play starts, which will be a positive from an experience standpoint and I guess the way it looks right now, won't be messing up any rhythm that seems to be working. But seriously, 29 TO's with 21 of them being steals? Do we not have anyone that can handle the ball on the team? Young guys not ready for the pressure? The three upperclassman had 17 of the 29. No clue what to think other than throw out whatever you were doing and move on.

#robbed

You're making my point for me. I didn't miss or assume anything, which is why I specifically put it in quotations that he had left the team and then indicated that he had prior off-field issues that the media hasn't mentioned at all. Klieman was the one that said it was a "mutual decision" and the media dutifully repeated reported that without bothering to ask any follow-up questions. But since you're clearly indicating that there is more to the story, we're all anxious to here why a top 3 WR is no longer with the team in the middle of a playoff run, because the Fargo media has no interest in it.

At least one instance that was enough to become public record, but obviously too much effort for the local media to look into or comment on even though they never miss a chance to publish negative information (allegedly). Haven't heard what the final straw was this time (nor will anyone "officially"), but I personally find it pretty strange someone would quit with only 3 games at most left in their career with a good shot at another title to top it off.

A top 3 WR for the defending champs "leaves" the team in the middle of a playoff run and the local media gives nothing more than a passing tweet on it. I mean I want to say I'm surprised but they also didn't bother mentioning any off the field trouble from the same player (or any others) when it happened or as a possible tie-in to the departure so I guess I'm not. But can we please hear more about how the media is so critical of their program and make sure every negative detail is talked about??

Well hopefully Danny is smart enough to pull incompletions and interceptions out of the playbook....

Not saying your wrong but who did you want to take touches away from this year to get him 8 a game? For the record, he had 8 touches vs. Montana, 6 vs. Sac St and 5 in two other games, but didn't score a TD all season. Don't get me wrong, I think he's got great potential over the next three years, but let's pump the brakes a little bit. Danny knows what he was with CM, guessing he'll find ways to get him the ball in space.