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Even if the game had been remotely competitive that is a bad decision by 87 and a very dangerous play at best. Shouldn't be ignored and the fact that the kid feels bad doesn't do anything. The time for considering that is before you make the decision to do what he did.

The shoulders might have been above the waist (not convinced myself) but 87's movement was downward and toward his knees and legs as he made contact. That play is very dangerous (and against the rules) and a player needs to recognize that and pull up. It would have been different if he had been closer and able to deliver a blow to his back that pushed him forward. That is merely a block in the back. That play he made has a high likelihood of hurting someone as you roll down into his legs. It was really a bad decision and Arnell get's to pay for it.

Deflect all you want about someone wearing a hat but it doesn't change anything about that play. Lowering a shoulder into the back of a players legs is dangerous and against the rules for that reason. Anybody that is being honest knows that is a dirty play at worst and a very poor decision at best. It was a spur of the moment decision but a very bad one. There is no place for that in a football game. To say otherwise is disingenuous or a complete lack of understanding of sportsmanship and football in general.

I don't have the video. Maybe you can find it. I watched the game on line and couldn't record it. I did watch it live and the saw the replay right afterward and posted that it was an intent to injure at that time. Not sure what other evidence you are looking for. It has nothing to do with who won the game or being a sore loser. It was a bad decision on a players part that broke another players leg.

Ducked his head and and rolled up into the back of his knees. That is the definition of a dirty play and players know that is off limits. If don't know that you have no idea how the game is played. A guy that played with me had a WR do that to him and tore his ACL. There were NFL scouts at our practices looking at him up until that time and it ended his career.

I posted the same thing yesterday right after it happened but was watching on line and couldn't watch it again to be sure. The fool announcers made an excuse for the SU player and said his momentum took him into Arnell and he couldn't stop. That looked like BS to me. Any thoughts on a hit with intent to injure? CAS?

same as if we had a Sioux logo on our helmets. Nothing changes. Dumb

Looked like a clip to the back of the legs that broke Arnell's leg. Can't watch a replay here so not sure

me too.

hoping for same and thanks for offer. I would come by but am stuck in twin cities this weekend.

or we could cut scholarships for women to 30% of total like NDSU rather than being close to 50% like we have today.

When will you learn that this isn't a rivalry. Just because it fits everybody's definition of a rivalry doesn't make it one per some.

I have replied to that numerous times. I don't know and neither do you. why does that lead you to believe they haven't been working on something and don't have a plan? On a side note - all of this conversation started with me posting that both schools are moving forward with COA and that is good for both. We should find something else to fight about. You were the first to reply and agreed with me. What changed? bison73Members 658 postsLocation:Fifty Lakes, MN Posted 3 September · Report post You would think so. But civil discourse is lost on some.

where do you get your info that there is no plan at UND? please fill us in - or is it just that you haven't been informed of it?. There are a lot of things that exist in the world that you don't know about. That doesn't mean they don't exist, only that you don't know . for instance - The president of Singapore is Tony Tan Keng Yam. Bet you didn't know that but he does exist.

I guess what surprises me is that you would believe that this is new to UND and they have no plan. There were articles from last spring, I think, where both ADs were asked about COA. Both NDSU and UND said they were studying it and the general feeling from the article was that UND was further along in their plans. That may or may not be true but how do you get to "no actual plan"? NDSU has revealed their plan and it is that they have 1/2 the money for 3 years from some big donors and are trying to raise the rest. That's pretty thin as far as a plan goes.

and you know this how? I have as much inside info as you do. There is ZERO chance that NDSU would have announced FCOA when they did if UND hadn't already done it for two of their sports.

They also had no idea that hockey had already started providing COA this year.

Or............NDSU offered COA because UND did it first with with our hockey teams. See how that works. And if UND hadn't built a $13 million indoor practice facility NDSU wouldn't have built one either - oh wait. I guess UND does invest in things independent of NDSU. There is no way UND got plans together in a few days. Things were already in the works when NDSU announced. And who the hell mentioned USD?

I think you can relax. I agree with you what was suggested here was BS but I don't think Bubba and his staff are taking direction from people posting in a chat room. You never know what players will do in the heat of the moment. I remember watching Phil Hanson body slam the UND QB long after he had pitched the ball and gladly took the 15 yard penalty. It clearly looked like an attempt to injure or at least intimidate. I doubt he was coached to do that.

agree on both points. Fumbled snap was a killer too

sorry but I saw what I saw and that was a team that played very poorly in 2nd half. I agree that it wasn't to the muss level but parts of the game were mussmanesque Too many mistakes late when all we had to do was be average and if we did Drake had no chance. If drake was 0-13 on 3rd down at one point and finished 3-17 they were 3-4 late and we didn't get off the field on 3rd down. I also want to say that I am a big Bubba fan and of what he is doing. He is turning things around and we will get there but it isn't an overnight fix.

Disappointing game yesterday. It did remind me of Muss era teams. After Wyoming I though we had made a great leap forward. It was like a 1 step forward and 2 back. It takes a long time to build a football team. I'm sure Bubba will get their attention this week.

same with me

Big game this weekend. Need to keep the momentum going and be ready for Drake.

How fun was that? Sounded like we kicked their ass. Score should have been worse.