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No matter where you fall on North Dakota as the nickname you have to admit the whole "UND could be sanctioned if fans cheer Fighting Sioux" is a big ruse. I've read Sports Illustrated stories about Stanford graduates still wearing Redmen shirts and we all know that there are many Warriors Forever fans in Marquette. So why hasn't there ever been any threats from the NCAA to those schools about wearing Redman/Warrior logos to playoffs or cheers? It just seems too convenient that the NCAA is willing to throw out threats like that at UND - when it is obvious that Kelly and others internally at UND don't want North Dakota as the nickname. And we all know where those at Forum Communications stand - they are giving way too much credence to an "If" then "Perhaps" comment from the NCAA.

Just thinking that Kelly must have received a few calls or at least calls from some pretty important UND boosters for him to go to the media and say he would consider putting North Dakota back on the ballot - that doesn't happen because of the threat of a gathering in a park. Then again it isn't back on the list yet so maybe he has no intention of adding it back - it was just to prevent thousands from showing up at a park gathering (sarcasm).

I don't see how you can make a connection between how many people show up at a last-minute rally in Grand Forks or give money to a bus fund with the number of people who prefer just "North Dakota" for a variety of reasons. There is no connection.

No concern - just tweeting for diamonds in the rough and looking for depth - you never know what's out there. Best wishes to the Hartness boys but the reality is they were walk-ons - nothing wrong with that but it's not like we had two scholarship athletes quit.

The leadership has changed at SCSU - it was Roy H. Saigo that led that charge and even started a national committee against nicknames. Now that he is retired there is not a peek on campus. They are facing budget cuts and other issues that are much more important. In fact the finger has been pointed that perhaps Saigo should have paid more attention to on campus financial issues than nickname issues.

Some new names here - so yet another comes here to defend "them. Still more proof they've moooved on.

Hmm so you've never heard a student say they are in pre-med, pre-law...I'm fine with moving on it's the fear mongering at all levels that is bothersome.

What information? Is this the conversation around a potential recruit's couch. "UND - oh haven't you heard they're gonna be sanctioned by the NCAA because their nickname is North Dakota - never mind their aviation school, their medical school, their law school - do you really want to go to a school that uses the name of its state as its nickname?"

http://www.grandforksherald.com/accent/3819401-und-named-top-university-native-american-students Someone help me - is this the definition of irony? Guess they didn't get the memo. "Hostile and abusive" must not have been a category they were ranking on. This stuff writes itself.

http://undhockey.areavoices.com/?p=100733 So it must just be all other sports that are being "hampered" by not having a nickname.

I know this is like counting pre-season football games as wins but they aren't doing too bad for having a coach that can't coach and all the other baggage that's been shared. It proves nothing but it proves more than being 0-3.

You are allowed your opinion but these are far from "truths" and lack any credibility. #1 is just plain laughable, #2 well with the high cost of higher education I'm fine with not having the highest paid coaches on the block - high pay does not equate to high results, #3 "many of our fans and stakeholders" - nope not the real fans and stakeholders, #4 is just a perpetual argument that never ends and #5 .... well I wouldn't lose any sleep over it because "May have to" is a long way from happening.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/local/3818902-sioux-chants-could-mean-consequences-und Okay this is such as bluff it's hilarious - NCAA would sanction UND if another school complains that UND fans were cheering Fight Sioux? 1. Would the NCAA also sanction a rival school that cheered "Sioux Suck" or similar? 2. How could the NCAA prove it was UND fans doing the cheering? And saying they were wearing Sioux gear proves nothing see #1. 3. What school is going to take the time to do that and create hard feelings with another school over off-ice cheers? 4. Does it have to be a school or could anyone file a complaint - that opens a can of worms for verification? 5. What is the reality of the NCAA punishing a school for a person exercising their rights of free speech? I'm guessing the next Herald story will talk about how rumors are flying that members of the Big Sky are starting to share their concerns, and how UND could get kicked out of Big Sky.

Expect this as a response "This survey is not an accurate representation of how the student body thinks. It is not random and those who prefer the name "North Dakota" would be more inclined to vote." The old sage says when you don't like the results of a survey question the methodology. Actually you could probably make the case that more than 70% of students don't care so why wouldn't you listen to the percentage that do.

Good stuff gotta love the maturity of Q and the boyish smirk of McD.

Hope this gives the boys a little edge for the season.

There's an old marketing sage that says "If you can't fix it, feature it" .

http://www.undsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=13500&ATCLID=210260700 When is UND going to start selling Bubba Hats?

Yup we've had ours but it's always fun to poke the bison.

Getting your day in court only applies to SU starters. But UND special teams now have a new strategy - the "New Orleans Saints Rush" - first SU punt that guy gets crushed and we take the 15 yards (yah I know there is a chance they won't be punting much.).

I wouldn't go to those places anymore.

If no one complains you can bet the NCAA simply picks up the phone and asks someone to complain - the same way that once it appeared UND might keep Fighting Sioux and take the NCAA punishments of not hosting etc. they simply sent out some letters to schools advising them not to schedule UND and the schools quickly fell in line.

What's the next level down from a dumpster fire - this thread had no chance for intelligent conversation the minute trolls were allowed in.

Your first statement explains a lot ...I know it will fall on deaf ears but "will someone ban this troll".