ScottM

Sorry, but with an aging population, NoDak cannot really afford to maintain its current higher-ed structure. A 4-year school in VC and Mayville perhaps made sense 50-100 years ago, but it's highly unlikely they have a place in eastern NoDak, especially with 'SU and UND within 100 miles of each. And to extend on The Sicatoka's comments, with extension course and internet learning, there's really no reason for the state to maintain 4-year schools in every other town.

If the hockey player can check the speed skater through the ice, he has the edge.

I think the fastest human runner can hit approximately 21 mph or so, based on the latest record. I recall reading, some time ago and some place, that a human can skate at about 30-35 MPH. Factor in a hockey player's gear, and the fact they've already put in some shifts, and I would "guess" the "average" is probably closer to 20 MPH in most instances. Fun offseason thread though.

Agreed. Factor in that these people generally lived within their means without credit cards, drove their cars until the wheels fell off and probably lived in their homes for more than 10 years, and it's easy to understand why so many of the "Greatest Generation" managed to amass modest fortunes. I also like the fact that these people are more likely to give to education, charities, etc. than passing the bulk of it to their kids.

And the CF Auditorium as I recall.

Some people have their own personal trainers, I just take "training" to a different level. Sagard, tell me about it. When I was in private corporate practice, I bailed a couple of Edina kids out of jail for firm clients who were out of town, and the kids decided to ... steal an ex-boyfriend's car or throw a party for a few hundred of their "closest friends". "Mommy and Daddy" were not pleased, especially when they saw my billing was higher than the criminal lawyers'.

Bah. Who cares about Chorney? My bartender's third cousin's best friend from Edina, who was just released from prison, told my buddy that ZPar discovered he could come back and play for the Sioux when the Devils didn't have a game scheduled.

Agreed. I've been to a few events around the MSP area that featured Aztecs/Mexicans who performed traditional dances, music, etc. However, they did not sacrifice a virgin to the gods, so I was disappointed and wanted my money back. To presume that the Aztecs are extinct is pretty arrogant ... oh, wait ... it is par for the course.

GF and UND have always had shaky "town and gown" relations. UND was orginally built away from GF to protect the locals from the "corrupting influences" of academia, let alone out-of-towners who might show the local ladies a "good time". I never really cared about GF politics, as I never intended to stay there after I got my degree(s). If you're truly interested in GF politics, get involved with local issues, get a drivers' license or voter registration for a GF address, and don't act like GF or its residents owe you a damn thing.

Where did this come from? The Myles Brand Institute of Anally Derived Statistics?

I would not surprised if Illinois makes a final gesture for "consensus" to the NC$$ before they litigate this issue. Every time Herr Brand et al. make a statement, their position becomes even more clouded.

What color is the sky in Myles' world? To extrapolate from the two feathers that Indians are being treated or portrayed in a "hostile or abusive" manner defies all manner of logic, and common sense. Then again, he fits in with the rest of the PC crowd in academia.

Look at the State Bank and the State Mill/Elevator. NoDak has a strong history of grass-roots populism that is tied to early-20th century socialism. Most ag-based states seem to be like that. Strong "conservative" social values, but they'll send Dems and like-minded Republicans to DC to bring home the welfare $$$.

Actually, given the NC$$' often amorphous, and wishy-washy, criteria, even states with schools that are approved by the NC$$ to be "hostile or abusive" may want to join in getting this thing passed. There's nothing preventing Herr Brand, or his like-minded cronies, from changing the rules, again. Moreover, there's nothing preventing different tribal bodies from withdrawing their support, withholding their support or otherwise not playing by a college or the NC$$'s rules in the future. So all of the temporary dispensations granted by His Holiness could be taken away down the road. The fact they invoke the Commerce Clause definitely puts this issue well within the purview of Congressional power. I also love the private right of action that accrues to "injured" institutions. Even if Pomeroy doesn't support this bill, yet, I see no reason why other states' representatives from Utah, Florida or Michigan, for example, should not.

It's a start. However, I would make it a tortious breach of contract, which makes it a tort, and takes it out of the more limited realm of contracts, which can allow for damages well beyond economic and compensatory damages, e.g., punitive damages. I think a claim of defamation might also fly, especially since the NC$$ has proclaimed UND to be "hostile or abusive" and impinged its reputation on an international basis. Throw in a few other things related to intellectual property, maybe some anti-trust issues, etc., and you have the makings of an interesting showdown. I'd also explore the NC$$'s tax exempt status, since it seems to be delving into social and political matters outside of its own charter under 501 © of the Internal Revenue Code.

Poor, deluded woman. So unenlightened. If only she could accept the fact that Myles & Co. really know what's best for her and her people.

Not to mention all of the licensing fees the NC$$ has made from UND having a "hostile or abusive" name/logo. Looks like both sides with be feeding off the teat.

To the contrary, my implication was not based on geography, unless one is speaking of venue selection and/or choice of law provisions that may govern any litigation. I am speaking to the fact that most ND firms/lawyers are in fact general practice shops, and very few lawyers can pay the bills practicing in only 1-2 areas of law. In fact, off the top of my head, I can think of only one guy who's not a PI lawyer who can do well in a narrow field in the state. Even most PI firms try to do everything from dog bites to med mal to car accidents. The guy that does a will one day may be arguing a DUI case the next or closing a RE deal later on. It's not a poke at ND lawyers so much as a recognition of the realities most law firms face. The point is that we have one good shot to take, and based on what I've read and heard on/off-line there is already a very high-powered firm that has taken an interest in the case. Frankly, given the array of potential procedural and substantive issues, if we're talking $100k at the start to hire a Sidley or Covington-type partner or two to QB this game, I think it's money well spent and probably damn cheap too.

Ah yes, I forgot about all of the high-powered anti-trust specialists in Bismarck, and the IP shops that occupy floors of office space in Fargo and the First Amendment boutiques in Minot. Silly me. I suppose if you're staking your school's national reputation on fights with a national organization with deep pockets, it only makes sense to hire somebody who advertises on the back of a phone book just because they're a drinking buddy of the AG. And speaking from my professional experience in a company that has over 400 lawyers of its own, and who supervises a number of them, as well as outside firms, you do often get what you pay for. Most firms don't charge $600-800/hour unless they have a track record of getting results.

Less than a $100,000? Is he serious? Is he getting a steep discount from an AmLaw 50 shop? I'm not sure who Stenehjem's been talking to, but I hope he hasn't decided to go with some low-rent firm in Bismarck or Fargo who does PI work, Aunt Millie's estate and insurance defense work, as well as "anti trust" or enterprise contract issues and some of the other possible claims. If I give anything, I want to know who's doing the work.

Maybe we could borrow this one.

I tend to agree. The NC$$'s labeling of UND' use, and vis-a-vis UND, of the name/logo as "hostile or abusive" is nothing short of defamation. UND effectively has to go to court to clear its name and reputation, as well dealing with NC$$'s own idiocy in stumbling over its own rules and procedures. What eventually happens to the name/logo is secondary.

If you kids don't stop screaming at each other and foolin' around, I'm gonna stop this internet thingee and slap the bejesus out of the lot of ya!