yzerman19 Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 Not scared of you, but never want to play a big rival when all the chips are down. I'm not scared of any team, no one holds a winning record against us...we'd have to get swept by UMD or SCSU or lose to CC or Wisconsin in the Final Five for anyone to have a winning record against us going into the NCAAs. CC 1-1-0 .500 Denver 3-1-0 .750 Mankato 2-0-0 1.000 Minnesota 2-1-1 .6250 Michigan Tech 3-1-0 .750 Alaska Anchorage 2-0-0 1.000 Wisconsin 1-1-0 .500 SCSU 1-1-0 .500 UMD 1-1-0 .500 Michigan State 1-0-0 1.000 BC 0-0-1 .500 Northeastern 1-0-0 1.000 New Hampshire 1-1-0 .500 Bemidji State 1-0-0 1.000 Quote
AZSIOUX Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 So you are scared of us Its amazing that a team like Princeton can have that large of an effect on that many teams pairwise number. Very interesting 4 weeks of hockey coming up! I feel sorry for the bastards that don't get college hockey, I am a big college hoops guy and the weeks up to selection sunday don't hold a candle to NCAA hockey! would love for the gophs to come to grand forks. would be great. it sure is a cluster and will be fun to see how it plays out Quote
AZSIOUX Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 the wcha will end up with 5 teams in i believe. with the wcha playoffs, 2 teams are more likely to get knocked off that bubble. if they lose their best 2 of 3 series they are done with no final 5 games to jump up higher. will be fun Quote
yzerman19 Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 AZ- I like the new banner! Give Blood...play the Fighting Sioux!!!! Quote
captsioux Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Here is my guess for a bracket.(Conference Champ) Colorado Springs 4)Bemidji St (CHA) vs. 1) Colorado College 3)St. Cloud St. vs. 2)Miami Madison 4)Wisconsin vs. 1) Michigan (CCHA) 3)Minnesota vs. 2) Michigan St. Worchester 4)Notre Dame vs 1) New Hampshire (HEA) 3)Minn.- Duluth vs. 2) Boston College Albany 4) Army (AHA) vs 1) UND (WCHA) 3)Clarkson (ECAC) vs. 2) Denver The only games I could see moving regions are the Clarkson/ Denver switching with St. Cloud/Miami Attendance: Colorado Springs: would be better if Denver were there but it shouldn't be a problem while CC is there Madison: Should be sold out for every game no question with four Big 10 teams and a host institution Worchester: Great with BC and UNH being close and ND travels descent Albany: Should be pretty good with 2 local teams there in Army and Clarkson Quote
AZSIOUX Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Here is my guess for a bracket.(Conference Champ) Colorado Springs 4)Bemidji St (CHA) vs. 1) Colorado College 3)St. Cloud St. vs. 2)Miami Madison 4)Wisconsin vs. 1) Michigan (CCHA) 3)Minnesota vs. 2) Michigan St. Worchester 4)Notre Dame vs 1) New Hampshire (HEA) 3)Minn.- Duluth vs. 2) Boston College Albany 4) Army (AHA) vs 1) UND (WCHA) 3)Clarkson (ECAC) vs. 2) Denver The only games I could see moving regions are the Clarkson/ Denver switching with St. Cloud/Miami Attendance: Colorado Springs: would be better if Denver were there but it shouldn't be a problem while CC is there Madison: Should be sold out for every game no question with four Big 10 teams and a host institution Worchester: Great with BC and UNH being close and ND travels descent Albany: Should be pretty good with 2 local teams there in Army and Clarkson mankato is in as of now for sure with their pwr. minny and sconnie wouldnt be in as they would be 15 and 16, those 2 spots are the smaller conference auto bids. so i would have for the wcha und-cc 1 seeds du - 2 seed msu-scsu - 3 seeds umd - 4 seed uw and um are out wit the current pwr with notre dame in in my book http://siouxsports.com/hockey/rankings/pwr/ Quote
AZSIOUX Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Ferris what? i think a overall 1 seed losing to a 16 seed that was is a bit more of a upset than a at large bid as a 2 seed in f-state beating 3 seed north dakota but thats cool Quote
petey23 Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Ferris what? Are you comparing a win by the #2 seed Ferris State over the # 3 seed UND with #4 seed Holy Cross over #1 seed Minnesota? Just curious if that is the direction you are trying to take this? Quote
RexBanner Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Are you comparing a win by the #2 seed Ferris State over the # 3 seed UND with #4 seed Holy Cross over #1 seed Minnesota? Just curious if that is the direction you are trying to take this? Not at all, I was just attempting to add to the point that you never really know what to expect come playoff time. Probably a bad analogy, but I was trying to play off the style of HG's post, which can only be done with a name like Holy Cross, Michigan State, Oral Roberts, etc. Quote
petey23 Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Not at all, I was just attempting to add to the point that you never really know what to expect come playoff time. Probably a bad analogy, but I was trying to play off the style of HG's post, which can only be done with a name like Holy Cross, Michigan State, Oral Roberts, etc. Just have heard too many Gopher fans try and equate the 2. And don't get me wrong, every Sioux fan and probably a few others expected the Sioux to win that game, but 80 shots, 46 on goal and 6 off the pipes and we lost. Quote
fargosioux Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 In the latest Pairwise, Wisconsin and Minnesota are tied for the 14th spot. Since they split the regular season series, what breaks the tie? Is it RPI? Quote
stickboy1956 Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 In the latest Pairwise, Wisconsin and Minnesota are tied for the 14th spot. Since they split the regular season series, what breaks the tie? Is it RPI? Yes ... and no. Teams are then ranked by PWR point total, with ties broken by looking at the Rating Percentage Index (RPI). Note: this tiebreaking procedure is used solely for convenience in displaying the PWR, and will not necessarily match the committee's process. This is especially true near the end of the top 16, where the committee looks more closely at head-to-head comparisons when selecting the last few teams. PWR Explaination Quote
nodakvindy Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 The amazing thing is that the Gophers and Bulldogs are currently separated by 1 ten-thousandth of a point in RPI. UND's win over Bemidji was enough to flip the comparison back to the UM-D. That's how volatile things are with PWR. Quote
HeidiSioux62 Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 The WCHA schools are once again a cluster for the NCAA's. Here is the current PWR situation: 1 Mich 24 2 UNH 23 3 CC 22 4 UND 21 5 Miami 20 6 DU 19 7 MSU 16 8 BC 16 9 MSU-M 16 10 SCSU 15 11 Clark 14 12 Prince 12 13 UMD 11 14 ND 10 ------------- 15 Wisc 10 16 MN 10 So, UND is currently back as a #1 seed...and if the season ended tonight there would be 6 WCHA schools in the NCAA's. But...according to some posters on USCHO, when Princeton (#12) plays Clarkson, they will reach the "10 games against TUC" mark, which will lose them a bunch of comparisons regardless of if they win or lose. That would change the PWR to this: 1 Mich 24 2 UNH 23 3 CC 22 4 UND 21 5 Miami 20 6 DU 19 7 MSU 16 8 BC 16 9 MSU-M 16 10 SCSU 14 11 Wisc 12 12 Clark 12 13 UMD 12 14 Minn 11 ------------- 15 ND 10 16 Prince 9 Yes. You are seeing that correctly. That is 8 (!!!) WCHA schools in the NCAA's, barring any tournament upsets. Wow. Alot can, and will, change, but that is just crazy at this point in the season. Personally, I would rather see UW and UMN both miss the NCAA's, but that's just me. After Sunday's game does the Princeton/Clarkson game still have the same importance? And will that be enough to move both Wisco and the goofers up? Quote
siouxnami Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 It really says something about our program that the biggest upset that comes to mind in the playoffs is when a HIGHER seed beat us... Quote
gopherz Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 After Sunday's game does the Princeton/Clarkson game still have the same importance? And will that be enough to move both Wisco and the goofers up? Yup Quote
Stack Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Another thing to consider is that when Miami plays another TUC they will get the nod over us for the 4th Number 1 seed. Right now neither teams gets a point in the comparison because Miami has only played 9 TUCs. The next one they play win or lose gives them the comparison over us. So we need to continue to win to get a Number 1 seed. We need to win 3 of our last 4 regualr season games, sweep the first round of the playoffs, and win at least one game at the Final Five. If we do that and CC does that we'll both be Number 1 seeds. Quote
mikejm Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 So we need to continue to win to get a Number 1 seed. We need to win 3 of our last 4 regualr season games, sweep the first round of the playoffs, and win at least one game at the Final Five. If we do that and CC does that we'll both be Number 1 seeds. Jeebus......that should be easy. Quote
Big A HG Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Whether we're a one-seed or a two-seed, we still have to win two tough games. I don't think another loss sometime before the NCAA's would be such a bad thing. It'd be something to get the team refocused and to stay on-track and keep their motivation levels at their peak. Quote
jimdahl Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 That's assuming status quo for lots of other things. For example, Miami has 2 TUC wins vs. Vermont, who wasn't even a TUC until the end of this 4-game winning a streak vs. Merrimack and Mass.-Lowell. A similar losing streak vs. Maine and New Hampshire would knock them right back out of consideration, knocking two TUCs back off Miami. Quote
AZSIOUX Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Whether we're a one-seed or a two-seed, we still have to win two tough games. I don't think another loss sometime before the NCAA's would be such a bad thing. It'd be something to get the team refocused and to stay on-track and keep their motivation levels at their peak. I have never agreed with having to lose as being a good thing. if it happens it happens and thats fine. when you have a 13 game unbeaten streak the team is already focused and it shows. if it was earlier in the year then maybe but we only have a month and a half left of hockey with one goal in mind for this team. the very well could lose 1 or 2 more times and if they do it may be in the final 5 as i see them determined to win out vs duluth and scsu. i for sure hear ya but at this point they are focused and it is showing! go sioux Quote
dropTHEgloves Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 This team is experienced enough where they don't need to lose to gain focus. Quote
stickboy1956 Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 That's assuming status quo for lots of other things. For example, Miami has 2 TUC wins vs. Vermont, who wasn't even a TUC until the end of this 4-game winning a streak vs. Merrimack and Mass.-Lowell. A similar losing streak vs. Maine and New Hampshire would knock them right back out of consideration, knocking two TUCs back off Miami. And their next chance to play a TUC would be at CCHA tourny, probably Mich State. They play Ohio State and then probably Lake S St., 2 non-TUC's Quote
Goon Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 I have never agreed with having to lose as being a good thing. if it happens it happens and thats fine. when you have a 13 game unbeaten streak the team is already focused and it shows. if it was earlier in the year then maybe but we only have a month and a half left of hockey with one goal in mind for this team. the very well could lose 1 or 2 more times and if they do it may be in the final 5 as i see them determined to win out vs duluth and scsu. i for sure hear ya but at this point they are focused and it is showing! go sioux I don't think losing is ever a good thing and I think UND has put together an impressive string. Their last 4 games are going to be tough, but the Sioux can do it. If they lost so be it, but I doubt Hak is playing to lose. Quote
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