dlsiouxfan Posted December 31, 2007 Posted December 31, 2007 As far as I'm concerned, before UND hires Mussman or anyone else with ties to the program, they have to look at outside options. NDSU's success since the D-IAA move has been a result of hiring an outsider with recruiting contacts outside of ND and MN. While I hope UND continues to recruit in the area, it also needs to realize that to be successful, it has to have a recruiting presence outside of the region. The two best Bison players from last year's team were both from Illinois, the kind of players I don't think the current crop of Sioux coaches can land. As much as I respected Dale Lennon, I saw this as a concern before I knew he was leaving, and feel that UND has to at least consider other options at this point. To give credit where credit is due, those two players were recruited by Babich not by Bohl. So for your above analysis to be true you'd have to consider Bob Babich an outsider with established recruiting contacts outside the traditional recruiting area. Given he'd been at NDSU a number of years prior to signing these players and none of his previous recruiting classes had IL players, I'd say your theory doesn't hold much water. Quote
iramurphy Posted December 31, 2007 Posted December 31, 2007 As far as I'm concerned, before UND hires Mussman or anyone else with ties to the program, they have to look at outside options. NDSU's success since the D-IAA move has been a result of hiring an outsider with recruiting contacts outside of ND and MN. While I hope UND continues to recruit in the area, it also needs to realize that to be successful, it has to have a recruiting presence outside of the region. The two best Bison players from last year's team were both from Illinois, the kind of players I don't think the current crop of Sioux coaches can land. As much as I respected Dale Lennon, I saw this as a concern before I knew he was leaving, and feel that UND has to at least consider other options at this point. UND wasn't recruiting the Chicago or Illinois area and was not D1AA. That would be more of a deterrent to recruiting the area than the coaches. NDSU's success started when they made a committment to success in the early 1960's with Mudra. That allows Bohl, Hager, Morton, Earhardt and the others to be successful. It sure as heck isn't because they hired a coach with no ties to NDSU. You need to hire the best person for the program. If that is someone of the staff or hiring from within is best for the program then the hire should be done ASAP. I would want to know who else is interested in the job, and the AD (if we had one) should be making contacts to prospective coaches similar to what SIU did with Dale Lennon. I will bet a lot of money Dale and his new staff will have no trouble recruiting the Illinois area. What NDSU did and does, is of only passing interest. Quote
Bison Dan Posted January 1, 2008 Posted January 1, 2008 UND wasn't recruiting the Chicago or Illinois area and was not D1AA. That would be more of a deterrent to recruiting the area than the coaches. NDSU's success started when they made a committment to success in the early 1960's with Mudra. That allows Bohl, Hager, Morton, Earhardt and the others to be successful. It sure as heck isn't because they hired a coach with no ties to NDSU. You need to hire the best person for the program. If that is someone of the staff or hiring from within is best for the program then the hire should be done ASAP. I would want to know who else is interested in the job, and the AD (if we had one) should be making contacts to prospective coaches similar to what SIU did with Dale Lennon. I will bet a lot of money Dale and his new staff will have no trouble recruiting the Illinois area. What NDSU did and does, is of only passing interest. They shouldn't have trouble it's their backyard. The number of recruits within a 250 mile radius of SIU is more than ND,SD, MN, IA together. Quote
GeauxSioux Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 Any word on anyone besides Mussman applying for the job? Quote
UND92,96 Posted January 2, 2008 Author Posted January 2, 2008 Any word on anyone besides Mussman applying for the job? Nobody else internally will apply. And since the process apparently isn't going to be opened up to external applicants, I guess there won't be any more applicants, period. Quote
UND92,96 Posted January 3, 2008 Author Posted January 3, 2008 On the coaches' show tonight, Swyg said that Mussman will be named as Lennon's successor on Friday. Quote
The Walrus Posted January 3, 2008 Posted January 3, 2008 On the coaches' show tonight, Swyg said that Mussman will be named as Lennon's successor on Friday. And some say UND has no leadership..."Swyg" is in charge....... Quote
The Sicatoka Posted January 3, 2008 Posted January 3, 2008 And some say UND has no leadership..."Swyg" is in charge....... Hennessy pulls all the strings, not Swyg. Quote
UND92,96 Posted January 3, 2008 Author Posted January 3, 2008 Hennessy pulls all the strings, not Swyg. I forgot to post last night that I'm reserving judgment as to the accuracy of the info until I get confirmation from Mark Kauk. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted January 3, 2008 Posted January 3, 2008 I forgot to post last night that I'm reserving judgment as to the accuracy of the info until I get confirmation from Mark Kauk. God help you if Kauker finds out you're the leak. Quote
UND92,96 Posted January 3, 2008 Author Posted January 3, 2008 God help you if Kauker finds out you're the leak. Kauker would never be mad at me. I went to Central! Quote
UND92,96 Posted January 4, 2008 Author Posted January 4, 2008 Mussman could be named sometime after 4:30 P.M. today: [url="http://www.grandforksherald.com/articles/index.cfm?id=62627 Quote
siouxfriend Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 Mussman could be named sometime after 4:30 P.M. today: [url="http://www.grandforksherald.com/articles/index.cfm?id=62627 Quote
GeauxSioux Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 Football press conference could be todayDan Benson, a member of the search committee for a new football coach and the director of UND athletic media relations, said there could be a press conference today regarding the coaching situation at UND. "But we can't discuss anything until the end of the work day," Benson said. Quote
UND92,96 Posted January 4, 2008 Author Posted January 4, 2008 [url="http://www.grandforksherald.com/articles/index.cfm?id=62722 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 Where'd Mussman graduate from again? I seem to have lost that knowledge in a .... Cyclone. PS - Is it good karma for UND to hire a Cyclone when they're playing them in MBB tomorrow? Quote
choyt3 Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 You're comparing a transition that hasn't started yet to one that has finished and you are ready to give a "so far... blah blah blah" speech to Sioux fans? Quote
The Sicatoka Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 It's 4:31. Do you know who your coach is? Quote
so.cal.sioux Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 It's 4:31. Do you know who your coach is? I hope you didn't schedule your day around posting that message right at 4:31. Quote
GeauxSioux Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 UND names Chris Mussman new head football coach UND will name Chris Mussman as its new head football coach this afternoon. The 39-year-old Mussman Mussman has been an assistant coach for 17 years. He was UND's offensive coordinator the past seven years, and also assistant head coach for the past four years. Now that that is done, let's get things rolling. Go Sioux!!! Quote
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