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12 hours ago, yzerman19 said:

I don't want to be looking for diamonds in the rough...Parise and Toews were no questions asked absolute blue chippers...Sanderson too

The thing about players like Parise, Toews and Oshie is that they were super skilled, but they were also the hardest workers, just relentless.  Don't know that we have had many of our best players being the hardest workers lately.  It is kind of hard for the other less skilled guys to be slacking, when you see the elite players with a dog on bone attitude.  

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45 minutes ago, tnt said:

The thing about players like Parise, Toews and Oshie is that they were super skilled, but they were also the hardest workers, just relentless.  Don't know that we have had many of our best players being the hardest workers lately.  It is kind of hard for the other less skilled guys to be slacking, when you see the elite players with a dog on bone attitude.  

100%...when a player is the hardest worker and has skill that others don't have, you have something special...all three you mentioned had both in spades

Posted
53 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

A click aggressive here…but i suppose you are correct if you’re talking about the bluest of blue chips. :) 

i agree...that's a couple drinks in, and I caveated it : )

 

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1 hour ago, scpa0305 said:

I agree with most of your posts….but there are a ton of high high end head coaches that were dmen. Hak was a dman…heck Carle was a dman too and that guy has been on a heater.  I actually love when coaches were dmen….but I agree. We need more blue chips year in and year out to consistently compete.

thanks buddy, if you read my post i posit that as a question...no doubt there are excellent ex-D coaches.  I wonder if it is more to do with era you played in vs position you played?

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back to my aggressive comment...here's a great example.  Liam Pue is an absolute blue chip stud 2010.  He is playing up into u18 in BC.  So he's 14 turning 15 playing vs 16 and 17 year olds and doing a great job.  However, if you are a stud 16/17 in BC, why are you not in the WHL or BCHL?  You would be if you were ready/good enough.  So, i have seen Pue many times and agree that he is a top 10 player in his birthyear.  He's also a great kid.  I am a fan and want to see him make it.  It makes sense for him to play up out there.  The best analogy however would be that he is playing varsity high school hockey in minnesota as a freshman.   

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5 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

back to my aggressive comment...here's a great example.  Liam Pue is an absolute blue chip stud 2010.  He is playing up into u18 in BC.  So he's 14 turning 15 playing vs 16 and 17 year olds and doing a great job.  However, if you are a stud 16/17 in BC, why are you not in the WHL or BCHL?  You would be if you were ready/good enough.  So, i have seen Pue many times and agree that he is a top 10 player in his birthyear.  He's also a great kid.  I am a fan and want to see him make it.  It makes sense for him to play up out there.  The best analogy however would be that he is playing varsity high school hockey in minnesota as a freshman.   

Completely agree. Ryker Lee/Will Zellers are two that played prep last year that are doing really well in the USHL. But…as good as Zellers is doing, he’s def not a “blue chip”. Should be a nice college player at some point though. Lee…he’s a late bloomer I’ve heard. Currently projected as a 2nd/3rd….although someone recently told me he may sneak in the late first. There’s always outliers though, much tougher to locate the outliers however.

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1 hour ago, yzerman19 said:

thanks buddy, if you read my post i posit that as a question...no doubt there are excellent ex-D coaches.  I wonder if it is more to do with era you played in vs position you played?

Probably

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