brianvf Posted Tuesday at 08:20 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:20 PM 26 minutes ago, atxsioux said: Not sure if another young late 1st / 2nd rounder is what BU needs. Seems like they could use some older D+1 CHL players. They kinda got burned by the same type of player last year (Fondrk, Murtagh, Amico all come to mind as guys that should've all been in JRs last year) My thoughts as well when I saw that announcement. Quote
tnt Posted Tuesday at 08:46 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:46 PM 1 hour ago, yzerman19 said: Burris, Kunz yesterday and Bydal today so far. Kraft, Coulter, Korten, Grammar, Q Jackson, Hontvedt, Marvin from the area just to name a few. You can find whole lists on USHL draft board Saw there was a Laurila from Moorhead as well. Quote
MGsioux Posted Tuesday at 09:08 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:08 PM 7 hours ago, yzerman19 said: A handful of talented local(ish) kids went in the USHL draft yesterday...Moorhead, Warroad, Grand Forks. Be fun to see their progress and interest in UND. Several guys that were previously selected by WHL teams but didn't sign were drafted, however it seemed quite clear to me that guys that had a high probability of going CHL were not picked up or picked up late as flyers. Seemed to me that the battle lines are really being drawn between USA Hockey and Hockey Canada...which is too bad, because it only hurts the kids. Another note is that the online rating and scouting services seem to be off in left field on a number of these guys. Not surprising. They get paid on clicks, not on wining games or getting guys to the next level. Who got drafed from Grand Forks ? We need some local blood in the future pipeline at some point. Quote
MGsioux Posted Tuesday at 09:09 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:09 PM 7 hours ago, yzerman19 said: A handful of talented local(ish) kids went in the USHL draft yesterday...Moorhead, Warroad, Grand Forks. Be fun to see their progress and interest in UND. Several guys that were previously selected by WHL teams but didn't sign were drafted, however it seemed quite clear to me that guys that had a high probability of going CHL were not picked up or picked up late as flyers. Seemed to me that the battle lines are really being drawn between USA Hockey and Hockey Canada...which is too bad, because it only hurts the kids. Another note is that the online rating and scouting services seem to be off in left field on a number of these guys. Not surprising. They get paid on clicks, not on wining games or getting guys to What does it mean when it says Tender instead of a players name? There are a lot of those in the 1st round Quote
UNDMOORHEAD Posted Tuesday at 09:16 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:16 PM 29 minutes ago, tnt said: Saw there was a Laurila from Moorhead as well. Younger brother Quote
Wilbur Posted Tuesday at 10:10 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:10 PM 42 minutes ago, MGsioux said: What does it mean when it says Tender instead of a players name? There are a lot of those in the 1st round USHL teams can tender up to two players (2010 birth year this year, always 16 year olds) in exchange for their first and second round picks in the phase 1 draft before the draft happens. Phase 2 draft happened today, which is the 17-20 old pool of guys. I believe teams have 50 guys on their protected rosters. Quote
Blackheart Posted Tuesday at 10:20 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:20 PM 10 hours ago, burd said: We are. And good looking, compassionate, funny . . . Don't forget humble. 1 Quote
UNDMOORHEAD Posted Tuesday at 10:44 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:44 PM 23 minutes ago, Blackheart said: Don't forget humble. To a fault 1 Quote
yzerman19 Posted Tuesday at 11:08 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:08 PM 1 hour ago, MGsioux said: What does it mean when it says Tender instead of a players name? There are a lot of those in the 1st round As was said...and...before the draft, teams talk to players and if they want the team and the team wants the player. boom. This year's draft really showed the CHL to NCAA influence. The USHL is scared of guys that also have CHL opportunities. Quote
brianvf Posted Tuesday at 11:16 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:16 PM Tarin Smith from Everett goes to UMN. Not sure how bad his injury is or if he'll be ready by the start of the season. But good pickup for them. As DuPont's defensive partner, I'm not sure how many of Smith's points are just due to him being paired with Landon. Quote
scpa0305 Posted Wednesday at 12:33 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:33 AM 1 hour ago, brianvf said: Tarin Smith from Everett goes to UMN. Not sure how bad his injury is or if he'll be ready by the start of the season. But good pickup for them. As DuPont's defensive partner, I'm not sure how many of Smith's points are just due to him being paired with Landon. Smith is a stud. 2 Quote
Wilbur Posted Wednesday at 01:12 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:12 PM 14 hours ago, yzerman19 said: As was said...and...before the draft, teams talk to players and if they want the team and the team wants the player. boom. This year's draft really showed the CHL to NCAA influence. The USHL is scared of guys that also have CHL opportunities. Completely agree. USHL teams are going to really have to do their due diligence in the phase 1 draft. I mean you look at Dubuque last year trading up in the first round to take a kid like Colin Grubb, and he's headed to Brandon next year and likely will never skate a shift for them before he's in Grand Forks. Quote
yzerman19 Posted Wednesday at 02:10 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:10 PM It will be interesting to see what happens in the WHL draft. Historically they had the separate US Draft, so they were used to taking flyers there. They picked up Thompson and Morris early last year, but Joey Cullen was picked up later because of the Force connection and the <1% chance he would report. In a unified draft they probably would've slipped a ways simply because US kids are harder to commit. I predict zero top dog american kids go in the first round of the WHL draft this year. 1 Quote
yzerman19 Posted Wednesday at 05:46 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:46 PM any American kid who is 100% committed to CHL either isn't on the NTDP radar or their agent has a bone to pick with NTDP Quote
MGsioux Posted Wednesday at 07:16 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:16 PM So Schlossman had a good article on the USHL draft in todays herald. He mentions 2 grand forks kids picked early. Tyler Kunz and Noah Mcgauvran. Anyone know much about these 2 and any chance we see them in our pipeline someday ?? Quote
scpa0305 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 20 hours ago, yzerman19 said: any American kid who is 100% committed to CHL either isn't on the NTDP radar or their agent has a bone to pick with NTDP Or they feel the CHL route may be better for development? Fairly decent track record Quote
yzerman19 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago fair- a handful of kids have selected CHL over NTDP over the years. From a physical development perspective the NTDP cannot be beaten, kids come out of there strong and fast. Can argue about competitive development until everyone turns blue in the face. I guess my point is that you seldom see a top kid say CHL over NTDP. Does it happen? Sure, but its unusual. With that being said, that will limit US kids getting drafted high, because they are a riskier bet. Quote
ChadR Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 19 hours ago, MGsioux said: So Schlossman had a good article on the USHL draft in todays herald. He mentions 2 grand forks kids picked early. Tyler Kunz and Noah Mcgauvran. Anyone know much about these 2 and any chance we see them in our pipeline someday ?? Kunz is big like his brother. Plays for Shattuck. Mcgauvran is tiny. Plays for Northstar Christian Academy in Alexandria. Quote
yzerman19 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago I wonder if the Nicol brothers are on Chyz's radar? Reid is excellent in his own right, but his little brother is a potential exceptional status player. They are from Brandon. Quote
atxsioux Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Xavier Villeneuve to BU very likely it sounds like per the latest called up pod. Not a huge shocker with him being a Quebec kid Quote
brianvf Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, atxsioux said: Xavier Villeneuve to BU very likely it sounds like per the latest called up pod. Not a huge shocker with him being a Quebec kid I've been seeing a lot of mentions of that as well. Would be a great pickup for them and a nice offensive dman to fill the Hutson spot in their lineup. 1 Quote
atxsioux Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago They also mentioned on the pod that Carter Meyer is leaving the NTDP after this year to play in the Q which will definitely be a blow. Heard a few players were leaving but naively felt it wouldn’t be any of their top players haha. Seems like they could lose a few more big ones now who knows Quote
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