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So with two teams outside the top 16 winning in ECAC play, does that take away a spot for a bubble team? Or with a Dartmouth win, the bubble teams are all safe?

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5 minutes ago, Godsmack said:

So with two teams outside the top 16 winning in ECAC play, does that take away a spot for a bubble team? Or with a Dartmouth win, the bubble teams are all safe?

It’s best of 3, so it’ll change yet.

 

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6 minutes ago, RedFrog said:

Here is my take (bubble spots are #13, #14, and #15 in NPI):

AHA:

Eliminates the NPI #16

ECAC:

Quinnipiac is a lock (Down 1-0 in best of 3 v Clarkson)

Cornell is a lock (Down 1-0 in best of 3 v Harvard)

Dartmouth is essentially a lock (Up 1-0 in best of 3 v Colgate)

Princeton is up on Union 1-0 in best of 3

If anyone other than Queue, Cornell or Dartmouth wins the ECAC, they take a bubble spot away.  Union has a slim chance to get in as an at large, but that would likely only be possible by winning the auto bid anyway.

NCHC:

All remaining teams are locks (UND, UMD, Denver and Western) and won't take any bubble spots.

B1G:

Michigan, Michigan State, and Penn State are locks and still alive.  Ohio State is the only one here who could steal a bubble spot.

Wisconsin is essentially in, but would be a team that could sweat with multiple conference upsets.

Hockey East:

Providence is the only lock.

UMass and UConn could get in if they get to the championship but don't win it ... but will likely need to win it to get in, which would also then put them in the top 15 of NPI.

Merrimack, BU, Northeastern, and BC would steal a bubble spot if they won the AQ.  

CCHA:

Augustana has the best chance of making it as an At Large ... Michigan Tech will need to win it to get in and would steal a bubble spot.  St. Thomas and Mankato need to get to the championship game to have a chance at an at large.

Conclusion:

There are essentially 12 locks (current NPI 1-12) leaving 3 bubble spots up for grabs (AHA takes one of the 4 remaining spots).  Out of those ranked 13-18 in the current NPI, current NPI #13 Augustana has the best chance of getting an at large without winning their conference tournament, but they would be sweating out the other conference tournament results leaving 2 bubble spots for the other five teams to battle over.

UMass (14), UConn (15) and BC (17) from Hockey East and St. Thomas (16) and Mankato (18) are 5 teams battling for those 2 spots.  14-18 are currently separated by only 0.328. 

After tomorrow we'll know who is still in the running from the CCHA, If St. Thomas and Mankato win, they along with Augustana would still be alive.  If either of them lose, their season will be over.

The Hockey East is only in their quarter finals and will have their semi finals and finals next weekend, so less will be decided.  Providence is the only one who can lose tomorrow and not have their season essentially ended.  UConn and/or UMass would still have life, but would need Providence to win Hockey East, Augustana win the CCHA, and for Ohio State to lose in the B1G.

Thanks for doing all that work breaking down all the numbers and scenarios for us.

A lot still up in the air.

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9 minutes ago, RedFrog said:

Here is my take (bubble spots are #13, #14, and #15 in NPI):

AHA:

Eliminates the NPI #16

ECAC:

Quinnipiac is a lock (Down 1-0 in best of 3 v Clarkson)

Cornell is a lock (Down 1-0 in best of 3 v Harvard)

Dartmouth is essentially a lock (Up 1-0 in best of 3 v Colgate)

Princeton is up on Union 1-0 in best of 3

If anyone other than Queue, Cornell or Dartmouth wins the ECAC, they take a bubble spot away.  Union has a slim chance to get in as an at large, but that would likely only be possible by winning the auto bid anyway.

NCHC:

All remaining teams are locks (UND, UMD, Denver and Western) and won't take any bubble spots.

B1G:

Michigan, Michigan State, and Penn State are locks and still alive.  Ohio State is the only one here who could steal a bubble spot.

Wisconsin is essentially in, but would be a team that could sweat with multiple conference upsets.

Hockey East:

Providence is the only lock.

UMass and UConn could get in if they get to the championship but don't win it ... but will likely need to win it to get in, which would also then put them in the top 15 of NPI.

Merrimack, BU, Northeastern, and BC would steal a bubble spot if they won the AQ.  

CCHA:

Augustana has the best chance of making it as an At Large ... Michigan Tech will need to win it to get in and would steal a bubble spot.  St. Thomas and Mankato need to get to the championship game to have a chance at an at large.

Conclusion:

There are essentially 12 locks (current NPI 1-12) leaving 3 bubble spots up for grabs (AHA takes one of the 4 remaining spots).  Out of those ranked 13-18 in the current NPI, current NPI #13 Augustana has the best chance of getting an at large without winning their conference tournament, but they would be sweating out the other conference tournament results leaving 2 bubble spots for the other five teams to battle over.

UMass (14), UConn (15) and BC (17) from Hockey East and St. Thomas (16) and Mankato (18) are 5 teams battling for those 2 spots.  14-18 are currently separated by only 0.328. 

After tomorrow we'll know who is still in the running from the CCHA, If St. Thomas and Mankato win, they along with Augustana would still be alive.  If either of them lose, their season will be over.

The Hockey East is only in their quarter finals and will have their semi finals and finals next weekend, so less will be decided.  Providence is the only one who can lose tomorrow and not have their season essentially ended.  UConn and/or UMass would still have life, but would need Providence to win Hockey East, Augustana win the CCHA, and for Ohio State to lose in the B1G.

love it.  Thanks for doing this.

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Posted
9 hours ago, RedFrog said:

Announcers aid they have no video of the review to show.  Wonder what the stripes are looking at then? 

Cash offers.

Posted
10 hours ago, RedFrog said:

Here is my take (bubble spots are #13, #14, and #15 in NPI):

AHA:

Eliminates the NPI #16

ECAC:

Quinnipiac is a lock (Down 1-0 in best of 3 v Clarkson)

Cornell is a lock (Down 1-0 in best of 3 v Harvard)

Dartmouth is essentially a lock (Up 1-0 in best of 3 v Colgate)

Princeton is up on Union 1-0 in best of 3

If anyone other than Queue, Cornell or Dartmouth wins the ECAC, they take a bubble spot away.  Union has a slim chance to get in as an at large, but that would likely only be possible by winning the auto bid anyway.

NCHC:

All remaining teams are locks (UND, UMD, Denver and Western) and won't take any bubble spots.

B1G:

Michigan, Michigan State, and Penn State are locks and still alive.  Ohio State is the only one here who could steal a bubble spot.

Wisconsin is essentially in, but would be a team that could sweat with multiple conference upsets.

Hockey East:

Providence is the only lock.

UMass and UConn could get in if they get to the championship but don't win it ... but will likely need to win it to get in, which would also then put them in the top 15 of NPI.

Merrimack, BU, Northeastern, and BC would steal a bubble spot if they won the AQ.  

CCHA:

Augustana has the best chance of making it as an At Large ... Michigan Tech will need to win it to get in and would steal a bubble spot.  St. Thomas and Mankato need to get to the championship game to have a chance at an at large.

Conclusion:

There are essentially 12 locks (current NPI 1-12) leaving 3 bubble spots up for grabs (AHA takes one of the 4 remaining spots).  Out of those ranked 13-18 in the current NPI, current NPI #13 Augustana has the best chance of getting an at large without winning their conference tournament, but they would be sweating out the other conference tournament results leaving 2 bubble spots for the other five teams to battle over.

UMass (14), UConn (15) and BC (17) from Hockey East and St. Thomas (16) and Mankato (18) are 5 teams battling for those 2 spots.  14-18 are currently separated by only 0.328. 

After tomorrow we'll know who is still in the running from the CCHA, If St. Thomas and Mankato win, they along with Augustana would still be alive.  If either of them lose, their season will be over.

The Hockey East is only in their quarter finals and will have their semi finals and finals next weekend, so less will be decided.  Providence is the only one who can lose tomorrow and not have their season essentially ended.  UConn and/or UMass would still have life, but would need Providence to win Hockey East, Augustana win the CCHA, and for Ohio State to lose in the B1G.

Excellent summary. Thanks.

Posted
13 hours ago, brianvf said:

ECAC tourney full of upsets.
They have a really good shot at adding a 4th team to the NCAA's at this rate.

 

Q has had some stinkers this year and Harvard actually played a rare, solid game. Tonight will be interesting as the conference has been competitive this year. A 4th team getting to the NCAA's wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility

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Huge drop-off from #12 Wisconsin @ 99.4% probability to #13 Augustana @ 64%.

Wonder if STT & Clarkson winning or losing moves the needle much for UND NPI-wise...#63 Mercyhurst beat Canisius in early March & the results were negligible for UND, a .003 increase.

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