NDRA Posted February 13 Posted February 13 12 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: Not with that attitude I don't think my attitude will have anything to do with where he commits. Let's be honest here, the first thing that has to happen is start beating out SU on some of these commits, they've owned the area for recruits. Who's the last kid who committed to the Hawks over them? Some will say Belquist but SU decided, wrongly I might add, to offer someone else over him. Huge mistake on their part but we all know he would have went their over the Hawks had they offered more than a partial or Walk On, after all his Dad is an alumni. Good for the Hawks but I wouldn't call it a recruiting win. O lineman from this year...Wagner?? He had an SU offer as well but he waited too long. By the time he committed they had 3 OL commits, all 3 stars by the way. You can look these things up on 247. It's a good recruiting resource complete with timelines on offer and commit dates. IMO opinion some of those recruiting battles need to be won before the tide begins to turn in the Hawks favor. Quote
Bison Dan Posted February 13 Posted February 13 14 minutes ago, NDRA said: I don't think my attitude will have anything to do with where he commits. Let's be honest here, the first thing that has to happen is start beating out SU on some of these commits, they've owned the area for recruits. Who's the last kid who committed to the Hawks over them? Some will say Belquist but SU decided, wrongly I might add, to offer someone else over him. Huge mistake on their part but we all know he would have went their over the Hawks had they offered more than a partial or Walk On, after all his Dad is an alumni. Good for the Hawks but I wouldn't call it a recruiting win. O lineman from this year...Wagner?? He had an SU offer as well but he waited too long. By the time he committed they had 3 OL commits, all 3 stars by the way. You can look these things up on 247. It's a good recruiting resource complete with timelines on offer and commit dates. IMO opinion some of those recruiting battles need to be won before the tide begins to turn in the Hawks favor. What's Bo up to now? Is he hoping to get drafted? His going to UND was good for UND but a case can be made not for Bo. If he would have had a qb to show case his talents he might have been invited to one of the senior bowls and offered a spot for the NFL combine. Just my opinion. Quote
Popular Post geaux_sioux Posted February 13 Popular Post Posted February 13 35 minutes ago, NDRA said: I don't think my attitude will have anything to do with where he commits. Let's be honest here, the first thing that has to happen is start beating out SU on some of these commits, they've owned the area for recruits. Who's the last kid who committed to the Hawks over them? Some will say Belquist but SU decided, wrongly I might add, to offer someone else over him. Huge mistake on their part but we all know he would have went their over the Hawks had they offered more than a partial or Walk On, after all his Dad is an alumni. Good for the Hawks but I wouldn't call it a recruiting win. O lineman from this year...Wagner?? He had an SU offer as well but he waited too long. By the time he committed they had 3 OL commits, all 3 stars by the way. You can look these things up on 247. It's a good recruiting resource complete with timelines on offer and commit dates. IMO opinion some of those recruiting battles need to be won before the tide begins to turn in the Hawks favor. Attitude has everything to do with it 5 Quote
AJS Posted February 13 Posted February 13 25 minutes ago, NDRA said: IMO opinion some of those recruiting battles need to be won before the tide begins to turn in the Hawks favor. I could not agree more. I've followed recruiting pretty closely over the years. The strategy is night and day different over previous years. They are targeting a higher level of athlete overall, being more aggressive, offering much earlier. They have 30+ offers and it's not even mid-February. You can just tell there's a confidence that wasn't there before. I believe this coaching staff believes they can win these battles. We'll see if they can seal the deal with some of these. I'm so excited for the future of this program. 1 Quote
NDRA Posted February 13 Posted February 13 12 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Attitude has everything to do with it You are correct when it comes to coaches and admin, but not mine personally. Quote
NDRA Posted February 13 Posted February 13 14 minutes ago, AJS said: I could not agree more. I've followed recruiting pretty closely over the years. The strategy is night and day different over previous years. They are targeting a higher level of athlete overall, being more aggressive, offering much earlier. They have 30+ offers and it's not even mid-February. You can just tell there's a confidence that wasn't there before. I believe this coaching staff believes they can win these battles. We'll see if they can seal the deal with some of these. I'm so excited for the future of this program. According to the recruiting tracker post on the previous page, there are 5 competing offers with SU. If they could win 2 of these outright it would be a huge step in the right direction. By outright I don't mean committing here after SU offer is no longer on the table, would still be a good get, just not an over the top win. 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted February 13 Posted February 13 17 minutes ago, NDRA said: You are correct when it comes to coaches and admin, but not mine personally. @geaux_sioux is right. You’re mistaken. Attitude is incredibly important. Expectations matter, even down to the individual supporter level, especially in this day and age of college football. FCS football can be quickly influenced by the followers given the current landscape and size of these programs. Do we (that’s right, we, even the fans on this forum) want UND to improve or be maintained? Improvement requires a positive attitude and buy-in. Do your part. Attend games, buy tickets, contribute to the collective, and most importantly, start expecting UND football to become the best in the FCS. Re-ignite rivalries and competition and do not be complacent with the status quo. Mind over matter. Get it done. 2 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted February 13 Posted February 13 1 minute ago, UND-FB-FAN said: @geaux_sioux is right. You’re mistaken. Attitude is incredibly important. Expectations matter, even down to the individual supporter level, especially in this day and age of college football. FCS football can be quickly influenced by the followers given the current landscape and size of these programs. Do we (that’s right, we, even the fans on this forum) want UND to improve or be maintained? Improvement requires a positive attitude and buy-in. Do your part. Attend games, buy tickets, contribute to the collective, and most importantly, start expecting UND football to become the best in the FCS. Re-ignite rivalries and competition and do not be complacent with the status quo. Mind over matter. Get it done. And these kids who are getting recruited can tell the difference in energy level amongst the various coaching staffs recruiting them. Schmidt and company are projecting energy, enthusiasm, positivity and an ambitious plan for greatness. That will make a difference. Quote
Hawkster Posted February 13 Posted February 13 1 hour ago, NDRA said: I don't think my attitude will have anything to do with where he commits. Let's be honest here, the first thing that has to happen is start beating out SU on some of these commits, they've owned the area for recruits. Who's the last kid who committed to the Hawks over them? Some will say Belquist but SU decided, wrongly I might add, to offer someone else over him. Huge mistake on their part but we all know he would have went their over the Hawks had they offered more than a partial or Walk On, after all his Dad is an alumni. Good for the Hawks but I wouldn't call it a recruiting win. O lineman from this year...Wagner?? He had an SU offer as well but he waited too long. By the time he committed they had 3 OL commits, all 3 stars by the way. You can look these things up on 247. It's a good recruiting resource complete with timelines on offer and commit dates. IMO opinion some of those recruiting battles need to be won before the tide begins to turn in the Hawks favor. It will be interesting to see how the recruiting battles play out in the next 9 months. Anyone can offer a high end recruit. The trick is to get them over other big name schools, especially the ones with FBS offers. I think we are on the right path but the turnaround isn't going to happen overnight. Quote
NDRA Posted February 13 Posted February 13 1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said: @geaux_sioux is right. You’re mistaken. Attitude is incredibly important. Expectations matter, even down to the individual supporter level, especially in this day and age of college football. FCS football can be quickly influenced by the followers given the current landscape and size of these programs. Do we (that’s right, we, even the fans on this forum) want UND to improve or be maintained? Improvement requires a positive attitude and buy-in. Do your part. Attend games, buy tickets, contribute to the collective, and most importantly, start expecting UND football to become the best in the FCS. Re-ignite rivalries and competition and do not be complacent with the status quo. Mind over matter. Get it done. The gist of my post was more in the remainder of the statements/questions after the first sentence. Quote
Siouxperman8 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Hawkster said: It will be interesting to see how the recruiting battles play out in the next 9 months. Anyone can offer a high end recruit. The trick is to get them over other big name schools, especially the ones with FBS offers. I think we are on the right path but the turnaround isn't going to happen overnight. I really don't buy into the thinking that we didn't try to recruit high end players in the past and only offered those with DII offers. Here is a partial list I found of 2024 offers that committed elsewhere. We did compete with FBS and other FCS teams. We just didn't land enough of them. Offered, Committed Elsewhere OL Kene Anene, 6’5”, 265, Woodbury (East Ridge), MN Committed to Kansas LB Dash Bauman, 6’3”, 200, Lincoln (East), NE, Committed to Wyoming LB Drew Braam, 6’2”, 220, Oak Creek (Oak Creek), WI Committed to South Dakota State DL Tono Cornell, 6'2“, 280, Iowa City (Independence), IA, Committed to Illinois St WR JJ Douglas, 6’5”, 215, Janesville (Parker), WI Committed to Central Michigan LB Peder Haugo, 6'2“, 200, Fargo (North), ND Committed to NDSU DE Hunter Kallstrom, 6’4”, 220, Kerkhoven (Kerkhoven), MN Committed to Wyoming LB Connor Kayser, 6’4”, 210, Ankeny (Ankeny), IA, Committed to UNI OT Josh Klann, 6’5”, 260, Lodi (Lodi), WI Committed to UW Eau Claire DL Fernando Lecuona, 6’3”, 250, Omaha (Millard South), NE, Committed to S Dakota St LB Sam Macy, 6’5”, 220, Chanhassen (Chanhassen), MN Committed to Minnesota LB Antonio Menard, 6’3”, 225, Lakeville (North), MN Committed to Air Force DL Darius Pahmahmie, 6’2”, 295, Liberty (North), MO Committed to UNLV RB Elijah Porter, 5’11”, 170, Ankeny (Centennial), IA, Committed to UNI Zashon Rich, 6’2”, 180, Minneapolis (North), MN, Committed to Wyoming OL Grey Rumohr, 6’5”, 285, Waukesha (Kettle-Moraine), WI Committed to N Illinois RB Terrance Shelton Jr, 6’1”, 195, Franklin (Franklin), WI Committed to Buffalo WR Jack Smith, 6’0” 190, Sioux Falls (Lincoln), SD Committed to South Dakota State ATH Will Steil, 6’2”, 195, Cold Spring (Rocori), MN Committed to NDSU TE Joseph Stein, 6’6”, 230, Grand Island (Northwest), NE Committed to Northern Illinois OL Riley Sunram, 6'5“, 265, Kindred (Kindred), ND Committed to Minnesota OL Nate Tastad, 6'5”, 260, Rolette (North Prairie), ND Committed to NDSU DL Zach Vanderpool, 6’5”, 230, Byron (Byron), MN Committed to NDSU Quote
NDRA Posted February 13 Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said: I really don't buy into the thinking that we didn't try to recruit high end players in the past and only offered those with DII offers. Here is a partial list I found of 2024 offers that committed elsewhere. We did compete with FBS and other FCS teams. We just didn't land enough of them. Offered, Committed Elsewhere OL Kene Anene, 6’5”, 265, Woodbury (East Ridge), MN Committed to Kansas LB Dash Bauman, 6’3”, 200, Lincoln (East), NE, Committed to Wyoming LB Drew Braam, 6’2”, 220, Oak Creek (Oak Creek), WI Committed to South Dakota State DL Tono Cornell, 6'2“, 280, Iowa City (Independence), IA, Committed to Illinois St WR JJ Douglas, 6’5”, 215, Janesville (Parker), WI Committed to Central Michigan LB Peder Haugo, 6'2“, 200, Fargo (North), ND Committed to NDSU DE Hunter Kallstrom, 6’4”, 220, Kerkhoven (Kerkhoven), MN Committed to Wyoming LB Connor Kayser, 6’4”, 210, Ankeny (Ankeny), IA, Committed to UNI OT Josh Klann, 6’5”, 260, Lodi (Lodi), WI Committed to UW Eau Claire DL Fernando Lecuona, 6’3”, 250, Omaha (Millard South), NE, Committed to S Dakota St LB Sam Macy, 6’5”, 220, Chanhassen (Chanhassen), MN Committed to Minnesota LB Antonio Menard, 6’3”, 225, Lakeville (North), MN Committed to Air Force DL Darius Pahmahmie, 6’2”, 295, Liberty (North), MO Committed to UNLV RB Elijah Porter, 5’11”, 170, Ankeny (Centennial), IA, Committed to UNI Zashon Rich, 6’2”, 180, Minneapolis (North), MN, Committed to Wyoming OL Grey Rumohr, 6’5”, 285, Waukesha (Kettle-Moraine), WI Committed to N Illinois RB Terrance Shelton Jr, 6’1”, 195, Franklin (Franklin), WI Committed to Buffalo WR Jack Smith, 6’0” 190, Sioux Falls (Lincoln), SD Committed to South Dakota State ATH Will Steil, 6’2”, 195, Cold Spring (Rocori), MN Committed to NDSU TE Joseph Stein, 6’6”, 230, Grand Island (Northwest), NE Committed to Northern Illinois OL Riley Sunram, 6'5“, 265, Kindred (Kindred), ND Committed to Minnesota OL Nate Tastad, 6'5”, 260, Rolette (North Prairie), ND Committed to NDSU DL Zach Vanderpool, 6’5”, 230, Byron (Byron), MN Committed to NDSU Thank you. Goes to my original point, that is one thing that needs to change. Just saying things feel different doesn't mean anything at this point, same things were said about Bubba when he took the reins. Time will tell. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted February 13 Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, NDRA said: Thank you. Goes to my original point, that is one thing that needs to change. Just saying things feel different doesn't mean anything at this point, same things were said about Bubba when he took the reins. Time will tell. Except our facilities were garbage back in 2014. And Schmidt seems to have an energy level that Bubba never seemed to be able to reach. 2 Quote
UND1983 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 We are never going to outrecruit them. Need to try and poach a couple along with finding some distance gems and piece it all together Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted February 13 Posted February 13 9 minutes ago, UND1983 said: We are never going to outrecruit them. Need to try and poach a couple along with finding some distance gems and piece it all together Perhaps, but seems a bit pessimistic. Winning solves everything. Pull a head to head win off or two against the school down south, and couple that with improved NIL collective dollars and facilities, and who knows what could happen. Why the f*ck can’t it be us? Some South Dakota State fans were fairly pessimistic back in circa 2014-2015 but the overall mission pushed forward and then look what happened to their program … 1 2 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted February 13 Posted February 13 13 minutes ago, UND1983 said: We are never going to outrecruit them. Need to try and poach a couple along with finding some distance gems and piece it all together I imagine people said the same things in 1986. And we all know what happened next. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted February 13 Posted February 13 6 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Perhaps, but seems a bit pessimistic. Winning solves everything. Pull a head to head win off or two against the school down south, and couple that with improved NIL collective dollars and facilities, and who knows what could happen. Why the f*ck can’t it be us? Some South Dakota State fans were fairly pessimistic back in circa 2014-2015 but the overall mission pushed forward and then look what happened to their program … Exactly. It's a process. It doesn't happen overnight, but that doesn't mean it is impossible. If we are going to have a defeatist attitude, we may as well go back down to Division 2. Quote
Popular Post geaux_sioux Posted February 13 Popular Post Posted February 13 31 minutes ago, UND1983 said: We are never going to outrecruit them. Need to try and poach a couple along with finding some distance gems and piece it all together Good lord. What a loser mentality. Unfortunately you’re not the only one who thinks like this. It’s a cancer in grand forks and at UND. 8 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted February 13 Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Good lord. What a loser mentality. Unfortunately you’re not the only one who thinks like this. It’s a cancer in grand forks and at UND. Amen. There’s a current mindset and expectation problem, for sure, but there’s also a solution in sight. Keep fighting and working for it and the solution will become reality, perhaps sooner than people think. 2 Quote
HoopsFan03 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 12 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Good lord. What a loser mentality. Unfortunately you’re not the only one who thinks like this. It’s a cancer in grand forks and at UND. You’re on a roll!! I love it!! 4 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted February 13 Posted February 13 48 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Good lord. What a loser mentality. Unfortunately you’re not the only one who thinks like this. It’s a cancer in grand forks and at UND. Thankfully, Schmidt does not think like this. Quote
UND1983 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 4 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: Good lord. What a loser mentality. Unfortunately you’re not the only one who thinks like this. It’s a cancer in grand forks and at UND. We are literally never going to you big winner you. Keep us updated each year on how it goes 5 Quote
UND1983 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 When was the last year we out recruited them (on paper at least)? 1 Quote
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