2024-25 ND High School Hockey

[Frozen4sioux]

28 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

They are an excellent bantam team not taking anything away from them, but they also have 2009s on that team.  The Shattuck team they play is all 2010s

At these ages there's always a couple celebrity or so and son on those SSM teams it seems so sometimes, depth isnt as deep as it is on the 16U and so forth.

6 minutes ago, UNDMOORHEAD said:

Maybe Moorhead and Grand Fork's best 2010s would make a formidable AAA team.

Theres a couple people or groups that would LOVE to put that to the test, right wrong or indifferent.

[UNDMOORHEAD]

34 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said:

Theres a couple people or groups that would LOVE to put that to the test, right wrong or indifferent.

I would like to see it. It would be fun to watch for maybe one summer tournament.

[Johnny Five]

Looks like Tuesday games are all still available in the EDC tonight?  

Second question, why the doesn't the WDA go to a Tuesday QTRF?  Saying "travel" is lazy, they travel all year.

Devils Lake at WF: Battle of 2 of the best players in the state.  Teams split with each winning road games: DL 5-2 and WF 5-3. 

Mayport at RR: Didn't play.

Spoilers at GFC: GFC swept 11-2 and 12-1.

North at Davies: Davies swept 7-1 and 4-2.  

Please advise of any streaming options...particularly for DL/WF and North/Davies.

 

[siouxweet]

10 hours ago, Frozen4sioux said:

Yeah not sure what ND team has beaten them in the last decade other than a one off here or there. 

I wish that sentiment was true but having been involved in it for the last decade or so, it just isn't the case.   

GF biggest ally is playing two equal top level team in squirts and peewees. By the time those kids funnel down to the Aviators they are better off, the tiipity tops may leave but the rest of the BAA and BA players then seem to compete like hell with something to prove as they enter high school. Add in some really competent and coaching to the multi-generational depth and ..........

That depth they create just laps the rest of the state.   They do it right. IMHO and experiences.

 

 

This is the best GF BAA team since Jackson Kuntz played.  This year and last they have been dominant in ND and the common demoninator there is Marto as the prior few years they were good but not great.  WF BAA rolled through ND a couple of years ago.

[Walsh Hall]

11 hours ago, yzerman19 said:

Not asking rhetorically, but how do you think they'd do against the big dogs in national bound AAA, factoring in birth year, so 2009 players would have graduated bantam and be playing 15O or higher. 

Even posing the question is quite the tip of the cap to the GF youth program.  

[yzerman19]

Yeah, Marto is good.  His dominance is part of my earlier question, because a lot of the top minnesota guys in his birthyear are not playing Bantam hockey. Examples:

Freddie Schneider is a 2009 and in his second year playing varsity at Edina

Nolan Fitzhenry is a 2009 and is playing 16U at SSM

Caden Zasada is a 2009 and in his second year playing varsity at Hill Murray

Nash Roed is a 2009 and is playing his first year varsity at White Bear Lake

 

I am not casting judgment and don't pretend to know the correct answer here.  I guess everyone takes their own path...is it better to dominate the age level or to be effective vs the best competition your birth year?  I don't know.  I do know that if you are good enough, they find you.

[yzerman19]

3 minutes ago, Walsh Hall said:

Even posing the question is quite the tip of the cap to the GF youth program.  

for sure.  Team ND has historically been a doormat at tier 1 nationals though.  Not sure how the politics work and if GF would beat Team ND?

[yzerman19]

Anyhow, good luck to the boys!  Like I said, I want every single kid to be successful and have a chance at chasing their dreams!

[gfhockey]

1 hour ago, yzerman19 said:

Yeah, Marto is good.  His dominance is part of my earlier question, because a lot of the top minnesota guys in his birthyear are not playing Bantam hockey. Examples:

Freddie Schneider is a 2009 and in his second year playing varsity at Edina

Nolan Fitzhenry is a 2009 and is playing 16U at SSM

Caden Zasada is a 2009 and in his second year playing varsity at Hill Murray

Nash Roed is a 2009 and is playing his first year varsity at White Bear Lake

 

I am not casting judgment and don't pretend to know the correct answer here.  I guess everyone takes their own path...is it better to dominate the age level or to be effective vs the best competition your birth year?  I don't know.  I do know that if you are good enough, they find you.

You must be a parent of one the teams gf youth hockey crushed this year

 

our apologies 

[siouxweet]

1 hour ago, yzerman19 said:

Yeah, Marto is good.  His dominance is part of my earlier question, because a lot of the top minnesota guys in his birthyear are not playing Bantam hockey. Examples:

Freddie Schneider is a 2009 and in his second year playing varsity at Edina

Nolan Fitzhenry is a 2009 and is playing 16U at SSM

Caden Zasada is a 2009 and in his second year playing varsity at Hill Murray

Nash Roed is a 2009 and is playing his first year varsity at White Bear Lake

 

I am not casting judgment and don't pretend to know the correct answer here.  I guess everyone takes their own path...is it better to dominate the age level or to be effective vs the best competition your birth year?  I don't know.  I do know that if you are good enough, they find you.

I heard dad wanted him to play BAA this instead of HS.

[yzerman19]

1 minute ago, siouxweet said:

I heard dad wanted him to play BAA this instead of HS.

Reasonable, again, like I said there is no right path. He's having a great year, they are winning, and he's having fun and hopefully developing- that's what you want

[yzerman19]

16 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

You must be a parent of one the teams gf youth hockey crushed this year

 

our apologies 

ha! nope, but I love the swagger

[siouxweet]

5 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

Reasonable, again, like I said there is no right path. He's having a great year, they are winning, and he's having fun and hopefully developing- that's what you want

One last hurrah with his friends before he heads off to greener pastures possibility. 

[gfhockey]

Bantam aa comp probably more difficult as they play lots of cities teams vs playing gpr and Fargo schools

[siouxweet]

9 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Bantam aa comp probably more difficult as they play lots of cities teams vs playing gpr and Fargo schools

What the GPR Bantam A team isn't as good as Bantam AA teams from the cities?  No way.

[Frozen4sioux]

3 hours ago, yzerman19 said:

Yeah, Marto is good.  His dominance is part of my earlier question, because a lot of the top minnesota guys in his birthyear are not playing Bantam hockey. Examples:

Freddie Schneider is a 2009 and in his second year playing varsity at Edina

Nolan Fitzhenry is a 2009 and is playing 16U at SSM

Caden Zasada is a 2009 and in his second year playing varsity at Hill Murray

Nash Roed is a 2009 and is playing his first year varsity at White Bear Lake

 

I am not casting judgment and don't pretend to know the correct answer here.  I guess everyone takes their own path...is it better to dominate the age level or to be effective vs the best competition your birth year?  I don't know.  I do know that if you are good enough, they find you.

From a different perspective.... 

Play 60+ games mostly in showcases and tournaments in MN against like age competition, in front of more eyes, more coaches, more scouts, more media

or

27 games of on an already deep GF HS squad (Central? I believe?) vs relatively dogcrap ndhsaa competition even if kids may be a year or two older.  In front of almost nobody. 

Not a lot of scouts making a point to drop in and watch a Tuesday night shellacking of (insert completely mediocre North Dakota High School team here) in January. 

BAA > NDHSAA    is the better choice in 99.999% of situations.... Only reason that a kid should pop up is family financial. That BAA schedule is $10k+ spendy. 

 

If I was a Forksillian and had an uber-talent kid, 8th BAA  9th  BAA   10th& 11th 2 years HS to get the experience of the cross town rivalry, Gambucci cup, State tourney, and likely a title, then leave sr year if possible for USHL or top 6/Top pair NAHL.

(Edit:  If at any point a legit shot is available with USTNDP or a legit SSM team... you take it no matter the year)

GF offers a great path for kids to develop and enjoy some really great experiences while taking advantage of a wealth of experience in coaching and facilities.

[yzerman19]

2 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said:

From a different perspective.... 

Play 60+ games mostly in showcases and tournaments in MN against like age competition, in front of more eyes, more coaches, more scouts, more media

or

27 games of on an already deep GF HS squad (Central? I believe?) vs relatively dogcrap ndhsaa competition even if kids may be a year or two older.  In front of almost nobody. 

Not a lot of scouts making a point to drop in and watch a Tuesday night shellacking of (insert completely mediocre North Dakota High School team here) in January. 

BAA > NDHSAA    is the better choice in 99.999% of situations.... Only reason that a kid should pop up is family financial. That BAA schedule is $10k+ spendy. 

 

If I was a Forksillian and had an uber-talent kid, 8th BAA  9th  BAA   10th& 11th 2 years HS to get the experience of the cross town rivalry, Gambucci cup, State tourney, and likely a title, then leave sr year if possible for USHL or top 6/Top pair NAHL.

GF offers a great path for kids to develop and enjoy some really great experiences while taking advantage of a wealth of experience in coaching and facilities.

Sound reasoning.  What if the kid is a potential chippah?  Do you then send him off to a prep or a Tier 1 powerhouse before junior?

The Twin Cities model would certainly be different in terms of playing high school, as the competition in the MSHSL AA category is strong and well scouted, especially in the power conferences.  

I don't have a horse in the race as I am not in Minny or NoDak 

[tnt]

1 hour ago, yzerman19 said:

ha! nope, but I love the swagger

gfhockey has a ton of swagger with other people's talents!

[Frozen4sioux]

19 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

Sound reasoning.  What if the kid is a potential chippah?  Do you then send him off to a prep or a Tier 1 powerhouse before junior?

The Twin Cities model would certainly be different in terms of playing high school, as the competition in the MSHSL AA category is strong and well scouted, especially in the power conferences.  

I don't have a horse in the race as I am not in Minny or NoDak 

For a Forks kid? or a MSHL kid? No.  Don't think AAA is a worthwhile option... unless its a real powerhouse team ala SSM... Bishop Kearney... Chicago Mission type program.

I'd go MSHSL before most AAA Programs... IMHO

 

Now if you are talking a  true  "chippah"  from Dickinson, or West Fargo, or Bismarck.....  gonezo.... not even a question, GTFO

[Brim006]

Mattern is sitting at 79 points with 2 guaranteed games remaining, with the possibility of up to 6. If he continues his average of 3.76 points per game and is able to get his team to all 6 games, it looks like he could beat the all-time single season scoring record by 2 points. Although that would be cool, I just don't forsee him being able to maintain that pace through the postseason even if WF does make state and plays all 3 games there. 

Morelli is also technically on pace to have the most points from a Minot player in about 20 years. Currently at 61 and needs 76 to beat Wilert from 2005. He will likely end up around 8th or 9th highest points in a single season since 2000.  

 

[Johnny Five]

29 minutes ago, Brim006 said:

Mattern is sitting at 79 points with 2 guaranteed games remaining, with the possibility of up to 6. If he continues his average of 3.76 points per game and is able to get his team to all 6 games, it looks like he could beat the all-time single season scoring record by 2 points. Although that would be cool, I just don't forsee him being able to maintain that pace through the postseason even if WF does make state and plays all 3 games there. 

Morelli is also technically on pace to have the most points from a Minot player in about 20 years. Currently at 61 and needs 76 to beat Wilert from 2005. He will likely end up around 8th or 9th highest points in a single season since 2000.  

 

Guessing the Magi will let him get 6-8 against Dickinson.  

[Frozen4sioux]

4 hours ago, Brim006 said:

Mattern is sitting at 79 points with 2 guaranteed games remaining, with the possibility of up to 6. If he continues his average of 3.76 points per game and is able to get his team to all 6 games, it looks like he could beat the all-time single season scoring record by 2 points. Although that would be cool, I just don't forsee him being able to maintain that pace through the postseason even if WF does make state and plays all 3 games there. 

Morelli is also technically on pace to have the most points from a Minot player in about 20 years. Currently at 61 and needs 76 to beat Wilert from 2005. He will likely end up around 8th or 9th highest points in a single season since 2000.  

 

Thinking there may be a tendy from Devils that may have a different take on that.

Any streaming option for that or the other games tonight?

Answered my own question kinda

Heres the 3 games OTHER than WF Devils Lake

https://www.youtube.com/@knoxradiotv/streams

WF game?

fan.hudl.com/wf_packers

or  https://www.facebook.com/share/15ps8cGZjo/?mibextid=wwXIfr

 

[Johnny Five]

3-0 WF after 1 over DL.  Pretty lopsided.  Mattern with the 3rd goal.  No assists on the first 2.

 

[Johnny Five]

Good lord.  8-0 West Fargo over DL.  Mattern with 4 and 1.

Mayport Red River 0-0 after 1.  

[Sodbuster]

So is Warroad's girls' game on TV anywhere tomorrow at 1:00?