NDPROUD Posted Monday at 09:23 AM Posted Monday at 09:23 AM 8 hours ago, SiouxFan100 said: Demers really struggled against ndsu. 14 minutes, no rebounds, two points, five of our 19 turnovers. I think she is better than this but might have problems against the types of players ndsu have. Really would help to have another player like Ibrahim. Our three recruits coming in are two at 5’10” and one 5’8”. I questioned it at the time. We seem like we are missing the boat in the types of players we need. They had Demers defending Draper from behind instead of 3/4 round. It was obviously ineffective and immediately put her in foul trouble. Jory ate that right up and it played right into his hand. Six unanswered early points to that mistake. After the first time Draper beat Demers, they should have switched her defensive stance up. How many times are they going to be out coached? There's continually mismatching and player positioning issues that have resulted in unnecessary fouls and turnovers. Players still allowed to play with blinders and me only attitude resulting in lost scoring opportunities, and again...turnovers. Our assist column reflects that game after game. This team should only have maybe two legit loses, but they need for their coaches to step up and do their jobs...if they're capable. Quote
HockeyHawk Posted Monday at 12:52 PM Posted Monday at 12:52 PM 3 hours ago, NDPROUD said: They had Demers defending Draper from behind instead of 3/4 round. It was obviously ineffective and immediately put her in foul trouble. Jory ate that right up and it played right into his hand. Six unanswered early points to that mistake. After the first time Draper beat Demers, they should have switched her defensive stance up. How many times are they going to be out coached? There's continually mismatching and player positioning issues that have resulted in unnecessary fouls and turnovers. Players still allowed to play with blinders and me only attitude resulting in lost scoring opportunities, and again...turnovers. Our assist column reflects that game after game. This team should only have maybe two legit loses, but they need for their coaches to step up and do their jobs...if they're capable. I don’t disagree that the coaching needs to be better but Ndsu had more talent. 1 Quote
UND1983 Posted Monday at 01:19 PM Posted Monday at 01:19 PM 25 minutes ago, HockeyHawk said: I don’t disagree that the coaching needs to be better but Ndsu had more talent. Great let’s talk recruiting then cause that sucks also. I have been stating for years on end that we are not long enough. 1 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted Monday at 01:53 PM Posted Monday at 01:53 PM 38 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Great let’s talk recruiting then cause that sucks also. I have been stating for years on end that we are not long enough. Bingo. Draper and Koenen are both listed at 6'2". Neither probably weighs a buck fifty yet both can score in the paint. Simon comes off the bench around the same height. Not as athletic but can shoot the 3 and post up. Anyone know what's up with Hamling. She's listed on the roster but hasn't played this season. Imagine if she was healthy and playing on that team. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted Monday at 01:55 PM Posted Monday at 01:55 PM As I mentioned this offense does nothing to showcase Schiller's talent and it definitely doesn't do Demers any favors either. She can't constantly be 18-20 feet from the basket. Quote
ND-fan Posted Monday at 03:26 PM Author Posted Monday at 03:26 PM Demers can play better than she did Saturday and I think she was trying to much in being in rivalry game especially with local fan base that follows her from Grafton. She is undersized at the post at listed 6’ 1” post player but I think she is probably closer to 6’. Somebody said why they didn’t the play her and Ibrahim both and I though that possibility too especially when Horne was in foul troubled but I also could see would have caused problems on ball movement on offense. We definitely need another girl with length who can play the four spot on the team. We have Mathern and Piekney to play there and both of them are also undersized for playing the four. I like our new recruits coming in but we need another post player since VanderWal they have given up on for playing any minutes now in conference season. I think we have to many guards that are taking up roster positions that are under 5’10”. When UND went to ncaa and won conference championships they were long these were teams roebuck had recruited before retiring he could see what was needed to play at this level. Mallory hasn’t given up on up tempo team concept and it reflects on her recruiting. Quote
UND92,96 Posted Monday at 05:21 PM Posted Monday at 05:21 PM 1 hour ago, ND-fan said: Demers can play better than she did Saturday and I think she was trying to much in being in rivalry game especially with local fan base that follows her from Grafton. She is undersized at the post at listed 6’ 1” post player but I think she is probably closer to 6’. Somebody said why they didn’t the play her and Ibrahim both and I though that possibility too especially when Horne was in foul troubled but I also could see would have caused problems on ball movement on offense. We definitely need another girl with length who can play the four spot on the team. We have Mathern and Piekney to play there and both of them are also undersized for playing the four. I like our new recruits coming in but we need another post player since VanderWal they have given up on for playing any minutes now in conference season. I think we have to many guards that are taking up roster positions that are under 5’10”. When UND went to ncaa and won conference championships they were long these were teams roebuck had recruited before retiring he could see what was needed to play at this level. Mallory hasn’t given up on up tempo team concept and it reflects on her recruiting. I think it speaks volumes about the roster makeup when a true freshman PWO like Mathern is getting fairly significant minutes. That's not meant as a knock on her ability, but it really shouldn't be happening, at least his early in her career, with 15 scholarship players on the roster. In order to add the needed inside help for next season, I think it's safe to say there are going to potentially be several players leaving after this season. As it is, scholarships appear to be overcommitted, with presumably both Hillesheim and Harvey being scholarship players. Quote
ND-fan Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago Mallory’s record against SDSU is 0-11; NDSU is 1-10, ORU is 2-10; USD 2-9 and St. Thomas 3-3 most of our wins have come against Omaha, Denver, KC, and Western Illinois. This up to current games and including her interim coach year but we’re almost done with her sixth season people on this site demanded change of coaches when Bubba was slightly over 500 and had played competitive games against Dakota schools. Then look at Mallory record and there is no curve upwards in the program but Chaves has continued to extend contracts. Where is expectation of winning but accepting to be bottom third of the conference. Women’s basketball of sports we have potential where we could be factor where we could regularly go to one of national tournaments but this slowly slipping as Women’s basketball becomes more popular. We need to find a coach that wants to build a winner and it could happen if we hire new coach. I am going to say something controversial but if we look at male coach probably could find high qualified coach cause majority of schools are still into DEI and top of that would be able to retain coach like this like SDSU has because large universities aren’t hiring male women’s basketball coaches. I am not against hiring woman coach but it’s hard to find applicants because of great demand universities are placing on meeting DEI. UND needs to look to change coaches because Mallory has been given enough time and program has not improved in 6 seasons . This is my opinion I am sure there other people feel differently but please why we should continue as we are now. 1 Quote
NewUndFan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, ND-fan said: Mallory’s record against SDSU is 0-11; NDSU is 1-10, ORU is 2-10; USD 2-9 and St. Thomas 3-3 most of our wins have come against Omaha, Denver, KC, and Western Illinois. This up to current games and including her interim coach year but we’re almost done with her sixth season people on this site demanded change of coaches when Bubba was slightly over 500 and had played competitive games against Dakota schools. Then look at Mallory record and there is no curve upwards in the program but Chaves has continued to extend contracts. Where is expectation of winning but accepting to be bottom third of the conference. Women’s basketball of sports we have potential where we could be factor where we could regularly go to one of national tournaments but this slowly slipping as Women’s basketball becomes more popular. We need to find a coach that wants to build a winner and it could happen if we hire new coach. I am going to say something controversial but if we look at male coach probably could find high qualified coach cause majority of schools are still into DEI and top of that would be able to retain coach like this like SDSU has because large universities aren’t hiring male women’s basketball coaches. I am not against hiring woman coach but it’s hard to find applicants because of great demand universities are placing on meeting DEI. UND needs to look to change coaches because Mallory has been given enough time and program has not improved in 6 seasons . This is my opinion I am sure there other people feel differently but please why we should continue as we are now. I agree with what you are saying. When Mallory won 2 games for her interim season, I thought no way she gets this job. Then it came down to her and one male coach. I was surprised she made top two, but figured they were doing it to save face with a former athlete. I dont remember the male coaches name, but remember thinking he had some experience that could have helped us. When she was awarded the head coaching job after winning only 2 games and being an assistant for the coach they had fired I was floored. Since then she has proven she is not a D1 basketball coach. NDSU made a bold move after hiring two female coaches that basically took their teams to the toilet in hiring Jory Collins. He has turned that team around and has made them a contender. I have no problem with a female coach, but I also dont think there should be preferential treatment for a female to coach a female team. Best candidate should get it period. I also believe Coach Hutter is the reason this years team is showing some signs of improvement this year. Time to move on. 1 Quote
ND-fan Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago I agree with your last comment and I would bet if Hutter was head coach right now from beginning of the year we would have winning record and would be competing with SU for second place. This with talent on this team as it stands now. I would even bet we would view number of players in even more positive light because he would have worked on fundamentals and execution of playing defense and offense. When I was young UND had top flight coaching for both men’s and women’s basketball but standard has slipped Tom Clifford would never put with this kind of performance. I think our current president has held academic side of university to this I hope he turns to athletics side as well Quote
sioux24/7 Posted 49 minutes ago Posted 49 minutes ago 20 minutes ago, ND-fan said: I agree with your last comment and I would bet if Hutter was head coach right now from beginning of the year we would have winning record and would be competing with SU for second place. This with talent on this team as it stands now. I would even bet we would view number of players in even more positive light because he would have worked on fundamentals and execution of playing defense and offense. When I was young UND had top flight coaching for both men’s and women’s basketball but standard has slipped Tom Clifford would never put with this kind of performance. I think our current president has held academic side of university to this I hope he turns to athletics side as well Aaron Kallhoff. He’s now the head coach of Sac State. Went 6-25 year 1 and is currently 10-10. Certainly a much more experienced coach. Quote
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