Fighting Sioux #1 Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 This crap happens in every program. If Goophie fans want to label our program or players as bad.....they can find my reply UNDER DOUG WOOG's DESK IN A CAP !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux7 Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WPoS Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 I guess what I was trying to say was this: Has UND had a few high profile problems recently? Yes, they have, was I lableing your program as bad, no. I was only trying to point out that in trying to protect your own, you end up looking like you are trying to hide the issue(s). The whole accusation on Chris McAlpine as being an example of Gopher "bad" players was shown to be not even him, but the apparent feeling here was he was guilty, w/o even knowing he was exonerated and his brother was the bad guy (example on how people have selective memory/jump to conclusions). Are there players/students/people in every program that cause problems? Heck yah, look at the Gopher FB/BB program a few years back...but with all the hype the UND hockey program has gotten the last few years (Bo, Prpich, Parise, Smamby and now Greene), one has to realise that your program is under a microscope and any more issues will reinforce people's opinion/prejudice of your program. Fans saying it is no big deal doesn't help. I personally feel that he needs to be proven guilty to have ANY action against him, even any games missed. That all said, the coaches of the program really need to hit home to these kids they are the people that the world thinks of when they think of your school/program and they really can't be human, they have to walk a tight line and HOPE they don't mess up. WPoS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoteauRinkRat Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 WPoS Point taken It is hard to find any program in the country who hasn't had problems like this or currently doesn't have problems like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsmack Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Imagine that-a college kid drinking! I'm not defending Greene but, speaking from experience, how many out there can honestly say they've never been questionable when driving home after being out to the bars? Unfortunately, I think most people "play the odds" and typically drive when they shouldn't. I know I have and it's really stupid. A question I pose and I in no way have a conclusion one way or another is, if Greene is found "guilty" could stripping him of his Captain status possibly hurt the team more? Would that cause more friction/contraversy among the team than if, say, Greene publicly apologized to the team and/or was suspended for some games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Everyone is looking for vulnerabilities in high profile people/programs. UND has a high profile in D1 hockey and garners a lot of attention. It doesn't matter the seriousness of MG's offense, the negative attention will usually be disproporionate to the offense. (that isn't to make light of driving and drinking. Only to say when you do something bad, you're going to get way more negative attention than the average joe, and that will reflect just as negatively on the program as well as individually.) When the discussion about leadership comes about between Hak and MG, he needs to understand how much negative attention is focused on the UND program when something like this happens. As a captain on the team, he should be a steward of the image of the program, as well as a leader in performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightonsioux Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Greene has been suspended for this weekend series. There was no mention on the captaincy, so I'm assuming he still has it. Does anyone know if Riley Riddell is still on the Bemidji team. He is the player that was charged with third-degree sexual assault, but the charges were dropped because the state could not prove it was criminal, even though an off duty police officer recorded the events on his cell phone, including male voices yelling "pillage her." Just wondering if he is still on the team or if he graduated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 This is from Inside College Hockey January 6, 2005, CHA Notebook. Also before the break, prosecutors in Anoka County, Minn., citing a lack of evidence, dropped sexual assault charges against Bemidji State player Riley Riddell and two non-athletes for an alleged rape near BSU's campus. Despite the charges being dropped, Riddell was not invited to rejoin the Beavers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 There's a news release on the UND athletic department's Web site concerning Matt Greene. University of North Dakota men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux1 Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Riley is no longer on the team and from what I know is no longer even in school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Interesting but off topic. In Montana you can still drink and drive. Not drive drunk, but chug a beer while driving to the lake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Does anyone know if Riley Riddell is still on the Bemidji team. He is the player that was charged with third-degree sexual assault, but the charges were dropped because the state could not prove it was criminal, even though an off duty police officer recorded the events on his cell phone, including male voices yelling "pillage her." <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Riley Riddell is no longer on the team. I was told by a person in the Know with BSU that he is playing professional hockey somewhere, I thought I was told the WPHL or something like that. I would ask Millsy or one of the Boys from the Beaver Pond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mksioux Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 An update from the Herald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinyTimmay Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Riley Riddell is no longer on the team. I was told by a person in the Know with BSU that he is playing professional hockey somewhere, I thought I was told the WPHL or something like that. I would ask Millsy or one of the Boys from the Beaver Pond. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Riley Riddell is currently on the roster for the Idaho Steelheads. The only post I've made in over 2 weeks and it's about some kid I've never even heard of until I read this thread, pathetic isn't it ? Go Sioux !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Interesting but off topic. In Montana you can still drink and drive. Not drive drunk, but chug a beer while driving to the lake. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In New Orleans you can order mixed drinks through drive thrus at liquor stores. Or at least you could at one time 1980-present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux_Hab-it Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Interesting but off topic. In Montana you can still drink and drive. Not drive drunk, but chug a beer while driving to the lake. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah and I believe you can still marry your first cousin there too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SiouxMeNow Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Greene has been suspended for this weekend series. There was no mention on the captaincy, so I'm assuming he still has it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He does and hopefully this incident will be a wake up call not only for Greene but everyone else on the team to consider the potential consequences of their actions. Everyone makes mistakes and a previoius poster has pointed out - which one of us hasn't gotten behind the wheel when they shouldn't have? Thank God we're not talking about the pedestrian he mowed down or the house he plowed into. You can argue about the degree of the "punishment" but he'll be paying (literally!) for this mistake for a LONG time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 You can get drive thru drinks in Rolette, ND too(or at least you could about 4 or 5 years ago). Probably a few other small towns around the state as well??? Totally off topic here, but a few years ago my softball team was in Texas for a National softball tourney in late September. Too save money we flew into Dallas and rented 2 vans for the drive to Midland. We loaded up with some beers for the road trip(the drivers excluded). At the tourney we were talking to a Sheriff's Deputy about how we could not believe that you could do that in Texas. He laughed and said "well you could do that in Texas up until Sept. 1, but not anymore" Whoops. He laughed and siad the new slogan in Texas was "Come to Texas on Vacation, go home on probation" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMT Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Hennesey asked Zajac after the game...What got you going in between the 2nd and 3rd periods. Zajac's answer...Our captain, Matt Greene came in and really got us going. It seems the players still respect him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux_Hab-it Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Hennesey asked Zajac after the game...What got you going in between the 2nd and 3rd periods. Zajac's answer...Our captain, Matt Greene came in and really got us going. It seems the players still respect him. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Therefore, we should all stop questioning why he is the Captain and stop wishing him off the team. He may have taken a couple of penalties doing it but I think I can safely say that Green would have hammered some of the Beavers who planted themselves in front of Lammy last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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redwing77 Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Therefore, we should all stop questioning why he is the Captain and stop wishing him off the team. He may have taken a couple of penalties doing it but I think I can safely say that Green would have hammered some of the Beavers who planted themselves in front of Lammy last night. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I completely agree. Our players make mistakes, some of those mistakes cost us, but I'll NEVER say that our D or our forwards should suffer misfortune. Yes, I do recall I did not have anything good to say about Siembida, but I guess you'll just have to trust the fact that those players currently on this team, and on teams of the future, will not be so criticized as Josh was from the likes of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DISHMAN Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Counterfeit bills to DUI's to whats next? Distraction to UND and it shows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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