OETKB Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 The PSU website has some stories on their team, but I found this one more interesting. http://morningsun.net/stories/120204/psu_20041202003.shtml Looks like Belmore is slated to start the game, with Lennon willing to toss John in there should things not go well. I have the feeling Belmore is going to have a big game, along with Dressler and Johnson. Let's hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 i was wondering if anyone knew where i could find the strength of schedule for pitt state and UND? It depends how you want to measure SOS. A simple to understand, so well-accepted measure is something like RPI uses, a combination of opponents' win% and opponents' opponents' win%. Those are currently: UND: opp%: .6369, opp-opp%: .5623, weighted SOS: .6120 Pitt St: opp%: .5667, opp-opp%: .5230, weighted SOS: .5521 Massey (formula unknown) says: UND: 15.84 (hardest schedule in DII) Pitt St: 14.10 If you believe in the predictive power of Massey's ratings (which even Massey doesn't), they would predict a 37-22 win for Pitt St. Pretty much any stats you run will indicated that Pitt St's offense should thoroughly embarrass UND's defense; but the predictive ability of such measures is even more limited than usual in this case, since Pitt St. has never faced a D as highly rated as UND, and UND has never faced an O as highly rated as Pitt St. Guess they better play the game just to be sure. I can't get a solution comparing Pitt St. to UND using Bradley-Terry since Pitt St. is lossless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 It depends how you want to measure SOS. A simple to understand, so well-accepted measure is something like RPI uses, a combination of opponents' win% and opponents' opponents' win%. Those are currently: UND: opp%: .6369, opp-opp%: .5623, weighted SOS: .6120 Pitt St: opp%: .5667, opp-opp%: .5230, weighted SOS: .5521 Massey (formula unknown) says: UND: 15.84 (hardest schedule in DII) Pitt St: 14.10 If you believe in the predictive power of Massey's ratings (which even Massey doesn't), they would predict a 37-22 win for Pitt St. Pretty much any stats you run will indicated that Pitt St's offense should thoroughly embarrass UND's defense; but the predictive ability of such measures is even more limited than usual in this case, since Pitt St. has never faced a D as highly rated as UND, and UND has never faced an O as highly rated as Pitt St. Guess they better play the game just to be sure. I can't get a solution comparing Pitt St. to UND using Bradley-Terry since Pitt St. is lossless. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What did the Massey Ratings predict for UND GVSU game? Is there a way to go back and check? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 What did the Massey Ratings predict for UND GVSU game? Is there a way to go back and check? Unfortunately, not that I know of. His current rankings would have UND beat GVSU by about 4 at home. But since the rankings incorporate that game, that's the whole point, they're supposed to accurately describe past results. Regardless, such a system is going to be able to make much more meanginful comparisons between teams like GVSU and UND that have at least a win and a loss; it's always going to predict great things for an undefeated team (because the past data indicates there's nothing you can do to beat them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bigmrg74 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Game Broadcast is up!! You know the drill, those with the audio call the score to those who don't have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 First play and PSU runs for 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmrg74 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Kickoff, Glas boots it to the endzone, Gorillas O start on the 20. Go Sioux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 It turns out that Digger hasn't practiced all week and now he has limped out of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmrg74 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Now they're talking about Digger limping?? I don't remember him limping last weekend at the end of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Pitt St moved the ball pretty well, confirming what we all feared coming into the game -- they're going to get yards so the Sioux need to figure out how to make them work for every yard and bend but not break. The Sioux are starting to limit Philpot's rushing and have been hitting him hard. A penalty pushed the Gorillas back forcing Philpot to move to the pass and they failed to convert on a 3rd and 15. Despite giving up one big run and a grinding 1st after that, the Sioux D forced a punt on the opening drive. UND went 3 and out, so the offense isn't yet holding up their end of the field position battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmrg74 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Wasn't that like the 13th time that Pitt has punted this year?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2Bad1 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Field position isnt going well for UND. UNdhas to punt athe 10 yard line.. belmore had a man wide open on 3rd down, but he missed him. good punt! Down to the pitt 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonguy Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Field position isnt going well for UND. UNdhas to punt athe 10 yard line.. belmore had a man wide open on 3rd down, but he missed him. good punt! Down to the pitt 17. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good punt? By my quick calculations that was over 70 yards!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2Bad1 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Good punt? By my quick calculations that was over 70 yards!!!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Great punt!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 PSU flagged for their second hold of the game and now 3rd and 16. Great stop for the Sioux D and now it looks like we should have the field position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Awesome!!! Again, Pitt St. finds themselves in a 3rd and 15 so has to go to the pass. Sioux hold up forcing another punt. 3 and out, baby! Sioux mess up on the punt, turning it over to PSU midfield The call is overruled on the field, UND ball on the 48! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Great punt!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nicely done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Crap. First turnover goes to PSU. Ball hits one of our players on the punt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2Bad1 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Huge break for UND.. refs called that the ball didn't touch the UND player. Get out of the way of the ball.. that's 7th grade football! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Looks like the refs are saying it didn't hit us. Our ball!!! Calls are definitely going UND's way. The refs are from the Northwest conference. EDIT: I should say call, because it sounds like the holds were real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmrg74 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Big Break, Refs said that It didn't touch the UND Guy, them monkey's don't sound happy about that call by the ref. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 TOUCHDOWN!!!! Roland from 13 yards out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Fan Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 7-0 UND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Great drive by the Sioux O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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