siouxforcefans Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 With all the news today, it's about time we kick off the new season's thread! Big trades today: PK Subban for Shea Weber http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2016/06/29/pk-subban-shea-weber-canadiens-predators/86523282/ Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson http://sports.yahoo.com/news/taylor-hall-traded-to-devils-for-adam-larsson-200817592.html Oh, and Stamkos signed a deal to stay in TB! Zucker signs for 2 years with the Wild. And, Matt Cullen wants to play another year in Pitt. .... And we're still 2 days from the start of free agency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray77 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, siouxforcefans said: With all the news today, it's about time we kick off the new season's thread! Big trades today: PK Subban for Shea Weber http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2016/06/29/pk-subban-shea-weber-canadiens-predators/86523282/ Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson http://sports.yahoo.com/news/taylor-hall-traded-to-devils-for-adam-larsson-200817592.html Oh, and Stamkos signed a deal to stay in TB! Zucker signs for 2 years with the Wild. And, Matt Cullen wants to play another year in Pitt. .... And we're still 2 days from the start of free agency This is great already! I believe the Kings gave teams the green light to speak with Lucic, so my guess is that Chiarelli is clearing cap space by moving Hall to make room for Lucic. I wouldn't be surprised if that deal is inked right after 12:00 Eastern on Friday. When I first heard the Subban for Weber deal I thought that Montreal absolutely robbed Nashville. However, Weber is 30 years old and is signed for the next 10 years at $7.85M/year. Probably good in the short term, but that will not be good in the latter years, which I'm sure is why Poile wanted to rid himself of that contract. Subban is signed at $9M per year through the 2021-22 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Of all the 1st rounders the Oilers have Yakupov would have been the one to deal away first. Here's to the Oilers being a joke in 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Personalities and presence in "the room" matter. Here's hoping both MTL and NAS got what they bargained for and need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray77 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 8 hours ago, DaveK said: Seriously? http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/p-k-subban-trade-may-worst-canadiens-history/ Seriously what? Did you even read my post? Like the part where it talks about my initial reaction, and then where I went a bit further and talked about their age, contract, etc. What part of that don't you understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Hall to NJD (for who?) looks like pure and simple salary dump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforcefans Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 Can't wait for free agency to start! Agree with those above that the Hall deal looks like clearing cap space. I'll have to see what they do with it, but it doesn't seem like a great trade at this moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray77 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 7 minutes ago, siouxforcefans said: Can't wait for free agency to start! Agree with those above that the Hall deal looks like clearing cap space. I'll have to see what they do with it, but it doesn't seem like a great trade at this moment. If yesterday was any indication, tomorrow at 12:00 EST is going to be nuts! Interesting note...Peter Chiarelli has now traded away the #1 and #2 picks from the 2010 draft: #1 Taylor Hall - from EDM to NJD #2 Tyler Seguin - from BOS to DAL The Seguin trade has proven to be a bad trade, what will come of the Hall trade? If we're judging by the players involved, the 1 for 1 trade of Hall and Larsson appears to be a mistake (although I think Larsson is a solid defenseman and will be good for Edmonton). I guess it'll depend on what Chiarelli does in FA with his cap space that'll help to answer the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tho0505 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 4 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Hall to NJD (for who?) looks like pure and simple salary dump. Larsson is a solid, young defenseman, who is still learning (23 years old). Sure the Oilers save some salary, but Larsson is signed at $4.1/M a year for the next 4 years. They saved $2 million in cap per year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Mentioned in the "former players" thread, but Matt Greene was bought out by the LAK. I'm thinking Columbus would be a good landing spot for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, tho0505 said: They saved $2 million in cap per year. What would be the smartest thing EDM could do with $2 million from that? Sign Matt Cullen and Matt Greene. Get some maturity (and PK) into that room to help McDavid mature into a leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdebbies Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 The Flyers could use Greene paired up with Gostisbehere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, iluvdebbies said: The Flyers could use Greene paired up with Gostisbehere. Gostisbehere is not a bottom-pair defenseman. Matt Greene is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdebbies Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, southpaw said: Gostisbehere is not a bottom-pair defenseman. Matt Greene is. Point is, Matt Greene could help Gostisbehere's game in a lot of ways. Plus the Flyers D-men wasn't exactly their strong suit last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 If the Oilers were worried about cap space then they should have traded away Nugent-Hopkins to the Devils and not Hall. Nugent-Hopkins isn't worth the money Hall is getting and why Yakupov is still on the Oilers roster shows they have no idea what they are doing. Yakupov is a bust and Nugent-Hopkins isn't much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforcefans Posted July 1, 2016 Author Share Posted July 1, 2016 19 hours ago, tho0505 said: Larsson is a solid, young defenseman, who is still learning (23 years old). Sure the Oilers save some salary, but Larsson is signed at $4.1/M a year for the next 4 years. They saved $2 million in cap per year. Made the homer in me worry about Dillon Simpson's future. Dug into Larsson a little more yesterday - little offense, but still played 82 games last year at +15. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray77 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 You guys ready for 11:00 today? This thread could get fun in about 2 1/2 hours! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tho0505 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 13 hours ago, cberkas said: If the Oilers were worried about cap space then they should have traded away Nugent-Hopkins to the Devils and not Hall. Nugent-Hopkins isn't worth the money Hall is getting and why Yakupov is still on the Oilers roster shows they have no idea what they are doing. Yakupov is a bust and Nugent-Hopkins isn't much better. Exactly. For Hall's production, leadership, and not too bad of a cap hit, he's got great value. Why trade him away if you are looking for cap space? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray77 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 12 minutes ago, tho0505 said: Exactly. For Hall's production, leadership, and not too bad of a cap hit, he's got great value. Why trade him away if you are looking for cap space? Not completely disagreeing with you - I really like Hall, but you need someone that will trade with you as well. Sounds like NJD said Hall or nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Sicatoka Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 If there was ever a website that needed some cloud computing / Azure support, it's this one https://www.capfriendly.com/ in about two hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Is that the site to watch this play out? I'm pretty new to this off season stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray77 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, 90siouxfan said: Is that the site to watch this play out? I'm pretty new to this off season stuff... That is an AWESOME site if you want to look at teams salary cap situations, player's contracts and salaries, etc. But to watch today's action I'd check out NHL.com, TSN.ca, ESPN.com and best of all, Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I don't follow the NHL real closely. Is this year supposed to be crazier than others for free agency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxScore Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 23 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: What would be the smartest thing EDM could do with $2 million from that? Sign Matt Cullen and Matt Greene. Get some maturity (and PK) into that room to help McDavid mature into a leader. Not sure on Greene but don't think Cullen would consider Edmonton. Listened to him talk to Russo on KFAN the other day and sounds like he really wants to be back in Pittsburgh and will wait for them to try to find some cap space for him. Russo made it seem like if that didn't work out the Wild would be the other option for Cullen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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