gfhockey Posted February 9, 2014 Author Posted February 9, 2014 stop away from the ledge Sioux fans step away from the ledge Quote
Goon Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 I don't think we can blame the goalie alone on this loss. The last time UND gave a two-goal lead was January 30, 2010... Quote
bigskyvikes Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 ok rob.... I prolly make more then you in 4 months then you do 12 OMG....get rid of this guy! Quote
Irish Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 Some of the best coaches in college history took a long time to win their first national title, or had long stretches between national titles. Jerry York and Red Berenson are 2 examples. You can't win the title if you aren't in the tournament, and Hak has a good record of getting into the tournament. If I hear the blah blah blah Red Berenson excuse one more time I think I'm going to puke. From when Gino took over in 1979 until Blais left North Dakota won 5 National Champuionships - an average of about one every 5 years. Next closest was Lake Superior State with 3. We didn't want to be Michigan then. We were the best program in the country and knew it. Now, we are not. We used to measure success by Nattys. Now we are giving ourselves participation medals. Time to step it up a notch and get it done. Quote
gfhockey Posted February 9, 2014 Author Posted February 9, 2014 rob started it by attacking me I am defending myself against slander and libel Quote
MafiaMan Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 If I hear the blah blah blah Red Berenson excuse one more time I think I'm going to puke. From when Gino took over in 1979 until Blais left North Dakota won 5 National Champuionships - an average of about one every 5 years. ...and Gino was absolutely run out of Grand Forks after 1994... Quote
gfhockey Posted February 9, 2014 Author Posted February 9, 2014 and gino got 2 nattys how long of leash does hak get Quote
MafiaMan Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 ...and Sioux fans were questioning Blais and his methods after the 03-04 disappointing season-ending loss too. Quote
MafiaMan Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 and gino got 2 nattys how long of leash does hak get That 1989-1994 stretch was five straight years of downhill hockey for UND. Hakstol's numbers over the past five years put those final Gino years to shame. Quote
82SiouxGuy Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 and gino got 2 nattys how long of leash does hak get Gino got 3. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 Just curious...what happens if/when this team misses the NCAAs? I hope the "been to the NCAAs every year but one" excuse doesn't come up. UND isn't St. Cloud. Last Natty was when??? Really don't think it is too much for this fan base to expect a Natty every 10-12 years IMO. Just saying............ Quote
82SiouxGuy Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 If I hear the blah blah blah Red Berenson excuse one more time I think I'm going to puke. From when Gino took over in 1979 until Blais left North Dakota won 5 National Champuionships - an average of about one every 5 years. Next closest was Lake Superior State with 3. We didn't want to be Michigan then. We were the best program in the country and knew it. Now, we are not. We used to measure success by Nattys. Now we are giving ourselves participation medals. Time to step it up a notch and get it done. Michigan won 6 in 9 years. Denver won 4 in 10 years, 5 in 12. Wisconsin won 4 in 11 years. BC won 3 in 5 years and 4 in 12. What's your point? UND had a great stretch during those years. Other schools have had even better stretches. I'm guessing that not everyone thought UND had the best program during the early 90's. And college hockey has changed. More teams have the ability to win, or at least compete, for a title. Sorry if you can't deal with reality. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 .....college hockey has changed. More teams have the ability to win, or at least compete, for a title. Sorry if you can't deal with reality. Reality=lowering the bar. Got it.............. Quote
Sodbuster Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 So which was the bigger stinker...your sewer or the Sioux's performance tonight? Definitely the Sioux. Quote
Irish Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 ...and Gino was absolutely run out of Grand Forks after 1994... Exactly - for not winning My point is that this is Fighting Sioux Hockey and the expectations are championships here - not some other "pretty good" program. Pointing to a good coach who has not had a lot of championship success does not, in my opinion, make it ok here. Might as well include Woog in your comparison. Quote
gfhockey Posted February 9, 2014 Author Posted February 9, 2014 im thinking maybe hak needs a raise and an extension cuz he has some pretty average seasons Quote
bigskyvikes Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 Just curious...what happens if/when this team misses the NCAAs? I hope the "been to the NCAAs every year but one" excuse doesn't come up. UND isn't St. Cloud. Last Natty was when??? Really don't think it is too much for this fan base to expect a Natty every 10-12 years IMO. Just saying............ So fire hak if the fan base wants more? This team is ran by the fan base? Thank God that isn't true! Quote
MafiaMan Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 Exactly - for not winning My point is that this is Fighting Sioux Hockey and the expectations are championships here - not some other "pretty good" program. Pointing to a good coach who has not had a lot of championship success does not, in my opinion, make it ok here. Might as well include Woog in your comparison. Gino was fired for his losing records, not for winning 25-30 games but no NCAA titles. And that's why Woog was let go as well. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 So fire hak if the fan base wants more? This team is ran by the fan base? Thank God that isn't true! Where was "fire hak" mentioned in my post? You aren't even in the right thread to make that leap. Quote
MafiaMan Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 cuz he has some pretty average seasons This coming from a shill for the "We want Sandelin" campaign. If Hak's seasons are "average," then about 75% of Sandelin's seasons have been like the weather this year - well below zero. Quote
gfhockey Posted February 9, 2014 Author Posted February 9, 2014 I don't think anyone has actually said lets fire hakstol I and others may have simply asked a simple question of "fire hak?" Quote
bigskyvikes Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 Just curious...what happens if/when this team misses the NCAAs? I hope the "been to the NCAAs every year but one" excuse doesn't come up. UND isn't St. Cloud. Last Natty was when??? Really don't think it is too much for this fan base to expect a Natty every 10-12 years IMO. Just saying............ So if not to suggest firing Hak here, what are you suggesting to fix the situation? "If they don't make the NCAA tourney" I usually agree with most that you post but these comments are getting old to read when the team is what.......10-2-1 in the last 13? Just saying... Quote
gfhockey Posted February 9, 2014 Author Posted February 9, 2014 This coming from a shill for the "We want Sandelin" campaign. If Hak's seasons are "average," then about 75% of Sandelin's seasons have been like the weather this year - well below zero. I would rather watch an exciting on the edge product vs dump and chase also I would rather have two nattys 6 avg season and 2 missing the playoffs in last ten years vs haks record. Quote
MafiaMan Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 I don't think anyone has actually said lets fire hakstol I and others may have simply asked a simple question of "fire hak?" So NOW we're going to get into the issue of punctuation and your use of a question mark? That's rich. Quote
Irish Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 I'm not saying fire Hak either - just expressing my frustration for the lack of a Natty, the dump chase and cycle, and the excuse making. Quote
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