Fading Memory...or North Dakota Media Guide Incorrect?

[MafiaMan]

OK, so the subject of ties in hockey came up on this site last week (I forget which thread) and I mentioned that the greatest game I have ever seen was a tie. I decided to create a new thread because I can't recall the original thread and it was off-topic anyways...

I attended UND from 1988-1992, thusly the game occurred during that time-frame. It came during the down-slide of the Gino era, so I narrowed it down to having been played sometime in 1990-1992. Here's what my memory recalls: UND, after having been destroyed by Northern Michigan on a Friday night, played before a prety dull crowd expecting nothing short of a Wildcat whooping. Sure enough, NMU sends most of the 4,000-4,500 fans scrambling for the exits after they pot a 5th goal en route to a 5-0 lead (again, this is from memory) at around the 15:00 mark of the third period. The student section (what was left of them) stood up and started chanting "LET'S GO SIOUX!" quite loudly. It didn't take long for the Sioux to score, 5-1 at what I recall being the 12:00 mark of the 3rd period. I remember commenting to my buddy "another goal before 10:00 and this could get interesting." Sure enough, 5-2 Wildcats a few minutes later. The place started going nuts when the 3rd and 4th goals went into the net and the Sioux scored sometime around the 2:00 mark to tie it up at 5-5. I remember fans scrambling BACK into the building to witness the comeback.

Each team was stoned on a breakaway in OT...the game ended in a 5-5 tie. Northern Michigan skated around like it had lost the NCAA championship game...the Sioux, after shaking hands with the Wildcats, skated over to the student section and gave us a traditional stick circle wave with their sticks (not a true circle but a definite show of 'hey, students, thanks for not giving up on us.'

Like I said, to this day, the greatest game I ever saw. Now, here's where it gets interesting and where I need help. The UND media guide, for the 1990-1991 season, says that UND lost AT NMU 6-0 on Friday October 19, 1990, and tied 5-5 on Saturday, October 20, 1990. It lists two HOME losses to NMU, December 16, 1990, by the score of 5-3, and Saturday, December 17, 1990, by the score of 7-4. Now...either my memory is skewed (doubtful) or the UND media guide has the locations of each series reversed. I'm wondering if anyone remembers that particular series or game against NMU in the early 1990's. For what it's worth, UND is listed as playing to a 6-6 tie at NMU on Saturday, January 11, 1992, but same rule applies as that game is also listed as having been played in Marquette. I know what I saw and I know it was Northern Michigan University...

[Sodbuster]

My memory is dim of that because, unlike you, was not there. But I have noticed other errors in the media guide, so it's extremely possible that you are correct.

[Frozen4sioux]

Errors are common in the guide.

[jdub27]

Like I said, to this day, the greatest game I ever saw. Now, here's where it gets interesting and where I need help. The UND media guide, for the 1990-1991 season, says that UND lost AT NMU 6-0 on Friday October 19, 1990, and tied 5-5 on Saturday, October 20, 1990. It lists two HOME losses to NMU, December 16, 1990, by the score of 5-3, and Saturday, December 17, 1990, by the score of 7-4. Now...either my memory is skewed (doubtful) or the UND media guide has the locations of each series reversed. I'm wondering if anyone remembers that particular series or game against NMU in the early 1990's. For what it's worth, UND is listed as playing to a 6-6 tie at NMU on Saturday, January 11, 1992, but same rule applies as that game is also listed as having been played in Marquette. I know what I saw and I know it was Northern Michigan University...

For what it is worth, the NMU media guide lists the location of those games the same as UND's media guide.

[MafiaMan]

Paging Shawn-O...

[siouxweet]

Paging Shawn-O...

are you sure you didn't take a road trip to nmu?

[MafiaMan]

are you sure you didn't take a road trip to nmu?

I have been to Marquette several times in my life - none prior to about 1997 or 1998.

[siouxweet]

I have been to Marquette several times in my life - none prior to about 1997 or 1998.

are you sure it isn't a case of you just can't "remember" being there for various reasons?

[Goon]

I went to a UND game in 1992 against NMU with an buddy of mine. I don't remember the score of the game and it was a semester before I came to UND. Yes, I was a bit buzzed... I went to the Shooting Star Casino in Mahnomen, MN before the game.

Edited December 16, 2013 by Goon

[Shawn-O]

Paging Shawn-O...

I was there. It had to be 89-90 or 90-91... I left Grand Forks after that. I can tell you that this game went down as MafiaMan describes it, great great game one of the best I've seen.

[MafiaMan]

are you sure it isn't a case of you just can't "remember" being there for various reasons?

No lie, I remember clearly.

[Shawn-O]

No lie, I remember clearly.

The media guide is wrong, the games were in GF.

[MafiaMan]

The media guide is wrong, the games were in GF.

I'm about 99% sure it was the 5-0 comeback in the 1990-1991 season...pretty certain it wasn't a 6-0 comeback in the 1991-1992 season.

[Shawn-O]

Yeah it was October of 1990

[MafiaMan]

I went to a UND game in 1992 against NMU with an buddy of mine. I don't remember the score of the game and it was a semester before I came to UND. Yes, I was a bit buzzed... I went to the Shooting Star Casino in Mahnomen, MN before the game.

Gee, thanks for the help there, Goon.

[siouxrunner]

Maybe Schlossman could check the archives and verify the game location with the box score/game story. That or someone could go to the library and pull up the microfiche

[MafiaMan]

Maybe Schlossman could check the archives and verify the game location with the box score/game story. That or someone could go to the library and pull up the microfiche

Now that would be awesome!

[burd]

Assuming this was the Greg Johnson-Dixon Ward led offense, I can sure see that happening. I was a student then as well and did not miss games without a reason, but I don't remember that one. Sober then and senile now, so . . .

[siouxrunner]

You can see a bit of NMU playing UND in this clip of the NMU 90-91 team. Obviously UND is playing at NMU, and the clip is at the beginning of the video. The rest of the video clips seem to follow somewhat chronologically through their season, leading me to believe the 5-5 ot tie was indeed at NMU instead of at home in the Ralph.

[MafiaMan]

Assuming this was the Greg Johnson-Dixon Ward led offense, I can sure see that happening. I was a student then as well and did not miss games without a reason, but I don't remember that one. Sober then and senile now, so . . .

Greg Johson - 18 goals and 61 assists that season.

Dixon Ward - 34 goals, 35 assists.

Russ Romaniuk - 40 goals, 28 assists.

Jeff McLean - 19 goals, 26 assists.

Jason Herter 11 goals, 26 assists.

Justin Duberman 19 goals, 18 assists.

Dane Jackson 17 goals, 9 assists.

24-17-2 record - disappointing finish to what looked like a great team going into the season. Brent Bobyck, Garry Valk, Russ Parent, and Lee Davidson were all gone from the prior year though.

[jk]

It sounds like a different game, but I can nail down the exact date for a similar event. I saw a great comeback against that great group from NMU. I don't recall it being from five down, but I do recall it being one of those stunning home events.

The other reason I remember the day is that we went home after the game and turned on the World Series, and promptly saw Kirk Gibson's one-legged walk off, and Tommy Lasorda jumping without leaving the ground. The internet tells me it was Saturday, 10/15/88.

[MafiaMan]

Great video, siouxrunner...here's another link that reports the same thing:

http://www.collegehockeyweekly.com/1990-1991-Northern-Michigan-Wildcats.html

[MafiaMan]

It sounds like a different game, but I can nail down the exact date for a similar event. I saw a great comeback against that great group from NMU. I don't recall it being from five down, but I do recall it being one of those stunning home events.

The other reason I remember the day is that we went home after the game and turned on the World Series, and promptly saw Kirk Gibson's one-legged walk off, and Tommy Lasorda jumping without leaving the ground. The internet tells me it was Saturday, 10/15/88.

10/15/88 shows a home 5-4 win over Northern Michigan.

I'm going to sit down tonight and examine all tie games UND was involved in from 1988 to 1992. Not sure where I'd ever begin to find a boxscore.

[burd]

Greg Johson - 18 goals and 61 assists that season.

Dixon Ward - 34 goals, 35 assists.

Russ Romaniuk - 40 goals, 28 assists.

Jeff McLean - 19 goals, 26 assists.

Jason Herter 11 goals, 26 assists.

Justin Duberman 19 goals, 18 assists.

Dane Jackson 17 goals, 9 assists.

24-17-2 record - disappointing finish to what looked like a great team going into the season. Brent Bobyck, Garry Valk, Russ Parent, and Lee Davidson were all gone from the prior year though.

We talk about the explosive firepower we had with DOT, but that team could really put the puck in the net.

[MafiaMan]

For those doubting my elephant-like memory when it comes to hockey, I recall Moscow Dynamo rolling into town in 88-89 and Justin Duberman recording a hat trick in what was a very entertaining 5-7 loss for the Sioux. Commie b*stards!