UND Fan Posted July 16, 2011 Posted July 16, 2011 We have offered junior-to-be, Carson Shanks. He's a 7 footer from Prior Lake. He also has offers from CSU and UNI. Quote
UND Fan Posted August 29, 2011 Author Posted August 29, 2011 UND has offered another 2013 grad: PF Luke Worthington, 6'8", 230 from Mequon, WI. He reportedly has no other offers but WI-Milwaukee and various IVY League schools are showing a lot of interest. It would be great to land a PF with this type of size. Quote
SiouxCrew11 Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 Check this tweet: "ahh yeah man good playin @mvanscyoc RT Good hooping with @Shane_Benton @YoungLA_3 @JGentYaBoi" Looks like Matt Van Scyoc was on campus today (Friday Sept 23) to play basketball with our new recruits Shane Benton, Lenny Antwi, and Joshua Gentry. To refresh your memories SF Matt Van Scyoc, 6'7 Quote
sioux2013 Posted September 27, 2011 Posted September 27, 2011 Check this tweet: "ahh yeah man good playin @mvanscyoc RT Good hooping with @Shane_Benton @YoungLA_3 @JGentYaBoi" Looks like Matt Van Scyoc was on campus today (Friday Sept 23) to play basketball with our new recruits Shane Benton, Lenny Antwi, and Joshua Gentry. To refresh your memories SF Matt Van Scyoc, 6'7�, Green Lake (Green Lake), WI -- Has offers from Miami(OH), Lafayette, CMU, Army, Boston U, Citadel, Nevada, E IL & UIC Let's hope he truly had a great time and is ready to commit to the Sioux for next year! His size would be perfect for us to replace Mitchell with after this year. According to the wiki we have already offered him. How can we offer him a scholarship when none are available for next year? The only scholarship for next year was Pat Mitchell's and I thought that one was going to Shane Benton. Is possibly one of the red-shirt juniors not returning next year. Something has to give for this offer to be made. Go Sioux Quote
UND Fan Posted September 27, 2011 Author Posted September 27, 2011 How can we offer him a scholarship when none are available for next year? The only scholarship for next year was Pat Mitchell's and I thought that one was going to Shane Benton. Is possibly one of the red-shirt juniors not returning next year. Something has to give for this offer to be made. Go Sioux ************* As noted below, a total of 13 scholarships are allowed but they do not need to be full rides. I would guess that only 9-10 of the kids who might be back next year have full rides so there is money available. ************* Number of Scholarships Men's Division-I teams are allowed 13 full-ride scholarships that can be broken up any way the university sees fit. You could see 26 players with half scholarships on a given team, however, it would be highly unusual Quote
NDSU grad Posted September 27, 2011 Posted September 27, 2011 How can we offer him a scholarship when none are available for next year? The only scholarship for next year was Pat Mitchell's and I thought that one was going to Shane Benton. Is possibly one of the red-shirt juniors not returning next year. Something has to give for this offer to be made. Go Sioux ************* As noted below, a total of 13 scholarships are allowed but they do not need to be full rides. I would guess that only 9-10 of the kids who might be back next year have full rides so there is money available. ************* Number of Scholarships Men's Division-I teams are allowed 13 full-ride scholarships that can be broken up any way the university sees fit. You could see 26 players with half scholarships on a given team, however, it would be highly unusual This was true in DII, but not in DI. You are allowed a maximum of 13 counters, and even an athlete on a half-ride is considered a counter. There are sports you can split up scholarships, but basketball and football are not among them. Quote
UND92,96 Posted September 27, 2011 Posted September 27, 2011 This was true in DII, but not in DI. You are allowed a maximum of 13 counters, and even an athlete on a half-ride is considered a counter. There are sports you can split up scholarships, but basketball and football are not among them. In FCS football I believe the scholarships can be divided so that a maximum of 85 players can be on some form of scholarship. With regard to basketball, I believe you are correct. Or maybe you were just referring to FBS football? Quote
UND92,96 Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 Just curious--do people think that the fact that a kid once red-shirted automatically means that he/she will be invited back for a fifth year on scholarship? I don't believe so, and that's likely where Jones will make a couple of scholarships available to recruit some size. Quote
sioux2013 Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 Basketball D1 is a full scholarship or nothing. There are no partial scholarships for D1 basketball. So, obviously Jones is not offering a full ride for one of the 5th year seniors to be next year. Wonder if Jones has already discussed this with one or more of these players. They can do the matH just as we can and know that no scholarships are available for next year. Time will tell. Go Sioux Quote
UND Fan Posted September 28, 2011 Author Posted September 28, 2011 This was true in DII, but not in DI. You are allowed a maximum of 13 counters, and even an athlete on a half-ride is considered a counter. There are sports you can split up scholarships, but basketball and football are not among them. Despite my posting the scholarship criteria, I didn't think it was correct so I went back and checked a second source. It said basically the same thing. I still don't think it is right but posted it anyway - shouldn't have. I found the correct definition of a headcount sport: For a headcount sport, each athlete on scholarship counts toward the maximum headcount the school can have on scholarship, so whether a player is given a full athletic scholarship or given only one dollar, s/he is counted toward the headcount for that sport. Since a men’s basketball team can only have thirteen scholarship athletes in their headcount, a school might as well offer thirteen full scholarships so it can attract the thirteen best players possible. For headcount sports, full scholarships are more common. The list is not long. Men’s headcount sports are basketball and football, and women’s headcount sports are basketball, gymnastics, tennis, and volleyball. Quote
UND Fan Posted September 28, 2011 Author Posted September 28, 2011 All the above being said, you can go to the bank with the assumption that we will have at least two scholarships available for next year. Quote
sioux2013 Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 Current scholarship players for this year: SR: Mitchell JR: Goodman,Haugen,Allard,Archer,Wilmer SO: Brekke, Schuler, Anderson, Huff, Webb FR: Antwi,Gentry Thats a total of 13 and the only scholarship we are losing for the following year is Mitchell and as mentioned earlier Jones said Benton was getting a scholarship his sophomore year. Quote
NDSU grad Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 In FCS football I believe the scholarships can be divided so that a maximum of 85 players can be on some form of scholarship. With regard to basketball, I believe you are correct. Or maybe you were just referring to FBS football? Yes, my bad. I was referring to FBS only. In FCS you can split the 63 scholarships among 85 players. Quote
sioux24/7 Posted October 1, 2011 Posted October 1, 2011 Anybody hear anything about mack arvidson from red river? Quote
sioux2013 Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 I sure hope we dont offer another guard. Everyone knows we need size underneath. Quote
jdub27 Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 I sure hope we dont offer another guard. Everyone knows we need size underneath. The unfortunate thing is so is every low and mid-major team. Only so many big guys to go around! Quote
bincitysioux Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Agree that the trend for a school at North Dakota's level will be to be guard-heavy. Hopefully once in a while we can come across an effective but rather under-sized post player like Brandon Brekke looks like he could be. Quote
sioux2013 Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Yes UND will probably always be guard dominant like most mid to low majors but as of right now we have only Brekke that has proven he can play the post and we enter into the Big Sky next year. They will dominate us down low if we dont find a good back up for Brekke and some other size at the 4 spot. Sure we could probably get by in the Great West as is but not the Big Sky if we want to compete. Problem with this Arvidson kid is we have already offered at least one player a scholarship for next year that we do not currently have. Go Sioux Quote
the green team Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 I'm a fan of Brekke, without a doubt. But I could ask the question what did he really prove last year? How to have a really good 8 game stretch then be in foul trouble the rest of the games during the season? Again the reality is we have un-proven and untested depth at the 4 & 5 spots. I completely agree that we had better continue to find players for those spots in the Big Sky. But I would like to remind everyone that currently, we do have size already on the roster, although unproven could turn out to be exactly what we need...effective. If you ask me all these guys are still question marks but the size is there and glimpses have been there at very brief moments of their careers. Brekke- yes undersized but great upside. Wilmer- Great size and reach- but what do we really know. Archer- 2 years ago, I thought he was going to be good- had a great 5 game stretch. Last year was able to dress but it hadn't even been a full year of recovery from knee surgery. Allard, works hard but if he comes in for Mitchell we lose the perimeter shooting game that Mitchell offers. There is size, just a whole lot of questions with what we have. I do hope that we continure to search for it, obviously our backcourt seems set for subsequent years. I read we have been recruiting a 7 Footer from Prior Lake...It sounds as if the coaching staff is looking in that direction as well. Basically, it would appear the search is on- but as it's been mentioned there are 300 plus other D1 institutions that are going after these same type of players. Hopefully, we can land a couple for next year and the year after. Quote
tnt Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Maybe we could use a little luck and get a "Jenny Crouse" on the men's side because of the aviation major. How about finding some large men that are interested in the UAS program? One can hope, can't they? Quote
UND Fan Posted October 8, 2011 Author Posted October 8, 2011 As noted above, UND offered Prior Lakes Carson Shanks (now 7'1") some time ago. He recently picked up an offer from Utah State to go along with earlier offers from CSU and UNI. We, along with many others, are interested in St. Cloud Cathedral's 6'11" Connor Voss. He is a project but is improving, still growing and with two more years of HS ball, he could become a "player"! Both these guys attended a Gopher FB game in early September. I would guess that UM will likely go after Shanks - who knows about Voss. It is good to see UND trying to get in on some young "bigs" like this. Also as noted above, we have an offer out to another junior, Luke Worthington, a 6'8", 230 PF from WI. Quote
SiouxCrew11 Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 "Matt Van Scyoc of Green Lake committed to The Citadel today. Also considered Nevada, Illinois-Chicago and North Dakota." Multiple sources on the twitter machine confirm this. This is too bad because this kid could have been just what we needed to replace Mitchell next year! Quote
UND Fan Posted October 14, 2011 Author Posted October 14, 2011 "Matt Van Scyoc of Green Lake committed to The Citadel today. Also considered Nevada, Illinois-Chicago and North Dakota." Multiple sources on the twitter machine confirm this. This is too bad because this kid could have been just what we needed to replace Mitchell next year! This does really hurt - I understand that the staff thought we had a decent chance of landing him!! He had a good visit here and got along with the other players well. Quote
UND Fan Posted November 18, 2011 Author Posted November 18, 2011 We have offered junior-to-be, Carson Shanks. He's a 7 footer from Prior Lake. He also has offers from CSU and UNI. Carson has made a commitment to Utah State. Quote
sioux24/7 Posted November 18, 2011 Posted November 18, 2011 Carson has made a commitment to Utah State. That is unfortunate. Quote
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