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In playing with the USCHO Pairwise Predictor, I have figured that the only way we can get the overall #1 seed is if Colgate beats Yale.

This is vital because Colgate is a common opponent for Yale/BC. Yale losing to Colgate would flip the comparison in favor of BC, creating a 3 way tie for first.

We DO want:

Yale to lose to Colgate

Sioux to keep winning! (Winning is key, if either BC or Merrimack(by beating Northeastern) win Hockey East, we need 2 wins to maintain the #2 overall spot. Would get the #1 overall if Yale loses to Colgate and we win 2. Could fall as far as #4 if Merrimack wins HE and we lose 1 game)

This was all derived from only a short amount of time playing with the predictor...I will play more in the coming days and post other scenarios/interesting facts that I find. I invite you all to do the same!!

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Yes, apparently there are scenarios where UNO does not make the tournament.

one of them involves cc winning the final five, northeastern wins hockey east, cornell wins ecac and RIT wins atlantic hockey-in this scenario we also tie yale for the number one seed.

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My predictions for the final PWR rankings.

In short:

Who’s making the NCAA tournament?

* The top 9 seem a lock: Yale, North Dakota, Boston College, Michigan, Miami, Denver, Minnesota-Duluth, Merrimack, Union

* The next 3 could miss with the wrong loss(es): Notre Dame, New Hampshire, Western Michigan

* 7 of the next 8 are still alive, but need help outside their control (or to win an autobid): Nebraska-Omaha, Colorado College, Dartmouth, Rennselaer, Boston University, Maine, Alaska Anchorage

* Minnesota seems out

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Entering my predictions for the coming weekend, here is my prediction of what the FINAL bracket will be.

Now this is me entering my gut feeling results for this weekend. There is no tinkering with it to get the final brackets I would want.

User-Specified Results

You have specified the following tournament results:

* WCHA Play-in #2: Minnesota-Duluth defeats Bemidji State.

* WCHA Play-in #1: Colorado College defeats Alaska-Anchorage.

* WCHA Semifinal #2: Minnesota-Duluth defeats Denver.

* WCHA Semifinal #1: North Dakota defeats Colorado College.

* WCHA Championship game: North Dakota defeats Minnesota-Duluth.

* Hockey East Semifinal #2: Merrimack defeats New Hampshire.

* Hockey East Semifinal #1: Boston College defeats Northeastern.

* Hockey East Championship game: Boston College defeats Merrimack.

* ECAC Semifinal #2: Dartmouth defeats Cornell.

* ECAC Semifinal #1: Yale defeats Colgate.

* ECAC Championship game: Yale defeats Dartmouth.

* ECAC Consolation game: Cornell defeats Colgate.

* CCHA Semifinal #2: Miami defeats Notre Dame.

* CCHA Semifinal #1: Michigan defeats Western Michigan.

* CCHA Championship game: Miami defeats Michigan.

* CCHA Consolation game: Notre Dame defeats Western Michigan.

* Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #2: Air Force defeats Holy Cross.

* Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #1: RIT defeats Connecticut.

* Atlantic Hockey Championship game: Air Force defeats RIT.

Rk 	Team 	PCWs 	RPI 	Comparisons Won

1 	[AQ] Yale (Ya) 	29 	.5800* 		ND 	BC 	Mm 	Mi 	MD 	Mr 	DU 	Un 	Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

2 	[AQ] North Dakota (ND) 	28 	.5874* 			BC 	Mm 	Mi 	MD 	Mr 	DU 	Un 	Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

3 	[AQ] Boston College (BC) 	27 	.5820* 				Mm 	Mi 	MD 	Mr 	DU 	Un 	Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

4 	[AQ] Miami (Mm) 	26 	.5622 					Mi 	MD 	Mr 	DU 	Un 	Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

5t 	Michigan (Mi) 	24 	.5562 						MD 		DU 	Un 	Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

5t 	Minnesota-Duluth (MD) 	24 	.5553 							Mr 	DU 	Un 	Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

7 	Merrimack (Mr) 	23 	.5521* 					Mi 			DU 		Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

8 	Denver (DU) 	22 	.5530 									Un 	Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

9 	Union (Un) 	21 	.5521* 							Mr 			Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 		Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

10 	Notre Dame (Nt) 	20 	.5489 											NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

11t 	New Hampshire (NH) 	17 	.5435 												CC 	NO 	Da 		BU 	WM 	Me 		AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

11t 	Colorado College (CC) 	17 	.5263 														Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

13t 	Nebraska-Omaha (NO) 	16 	.5325 												CC 		Da 		BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 		Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

13t 	Dartmouth (Da) 	16 	.5301 															RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

15 	Rensselaer (RP) 	15 	.5235 											NH 		NO 			BU 			Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

16t 	Boston University (BU) 	14 	.5279 																	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

16t 	Western Michigan (WM) 	14 	.5240 									Un 						RP 			Me 	Mn 	AA 		AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

18t 	Maine (Me) 	12 	.5246 															RP 				Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 		BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

18t 	Minnesota (Mn) 	12 	.5184 											NH 									AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

20 	[IE] Alaska-Anchorage (AA) 	10 	.5137 																					SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

21 	[IE] St. Cloud State (SC) 	9 	.5116 																	WM 						Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

22t 	[AQ] Air Force (AF) 	7 	.5119 																					SC 				FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

22t 	[IE] Alaska (Ak) 	7 	.5088 																						AF 		Wi 	FS 		Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

24t 	Wisconsin (Wi) 	6 	.5211 																						AF 			FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	

24t 	Ferris State (FS) 	6 	.5073 																		Me 								BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

26 	[IE] Bemidji State (BS) 	5 	.5016 													NO 										Ak 					Pn 	RT 	Qn

27 	Cornell (Cr) 	4 	.5060 																										BS 		Pn 	RT 	Qn

28 	Princeton (Pn) 	2 	.5109 																													RT 	Qn

29t 	RIT (RT) 	1 	.5057 																														Qn

29t 	Quinnipiac (Qn) 	1 	.5025 																								Wi 	

Thus the Brackets would be:

1 Yale v 16 Air Force

8 Denver v 9 Union

2 North Dakota v 15 RPI

7 Merrimack v 10 Notre Dame

3 BC v 14 Dartmouth

6 Minn-Duluth v 11 New Hampshire

4 Miami v 13 UNO

5 Michigan v 12 CC

Perfect bracket integrity with no inter-conference match-ups.

A couple of notes:

Denver and Air Force can be travel buddies heading to the East.

I do see UND going to Green Bay in this case though w/ the Miami bracket in St. Louis.

A (likely?) chance for an all WCHA Frozen Four.

I have spoken posted...so it shall be. ;)

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1 Yale v 16 Air Force

8 Denver v 9 Union

2 North Dakota v 15 RPI

7 Merrimack v 10 Notre Dame

3 BC v 14 Dartmouth

6 Minn-Duluth v 11 New Hampshire

4 Miami v 13 UNO

5 Michigan v 12 CC

I would love if this actual bracket happened. :)

Miami's bracket is brutal. Any of those four teams could end up in StP.

BC would have to play a tough UMD or UNH team to advance.

Yale and DU? A toss-up, but at least Yale wouldn't have a cakewalk to StP like in other brackets.

I think UND could win that regional...

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Cross-posted from blog post comments...

Someone asked via email how UNO could be left out.

The share of scenarios that have UNO finish with each PWR ranking are:

#12 4%

#13 31%

#14 33%

#15 26%

#16 5%

The things that seem to hurt UNO the most, pushing them to the lower rankings, are: CC winning, Western Michigan winning, and Dartmouth winning.

If UNO finishes #16, they

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Entering my predictions for the coming weekend, here is my prediction of what the FINAL bracket will be.

Now this is me entering my gut feeling results for this weekend. There is no tinkering with it to get the final brackets I would want.

Rk 	Team 	PCWs 	RPI 	Comparisons Won

1 	[AQ] Yale (Ya) 	29 	.5800* 		ND 	BC 	Mm 	Mi 	MD 	Mr 	DU 	Un 	Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

2 	[AQ] North Dakota (ND) 	28 	.5874* 			BC 	Mm 	Mi 	MD 	Mr 	DU 	Un 	Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

3 	[AQ] Boston College (BC) 	27 	.5820* 				Mm 	Mi 	MD 	Mr 	DU 	Un 	Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

4 	[AQ] Miami (Mm) 	26 	.5622 					Mi 	MD 	Mr 	DU 	Un 	Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

5t 	Michigan (Mi) 	24 	.5562 						MD 		DU 	Un 	Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

5t 	Minnesota-Duluth (MD) 	24 	.5553 							Mr 	DU 	Un 	Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

7 	Merrimack (Mr) 	23 	.5521* 					Mi 			DU 		Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

8 	Denver (DU) 	22 	.5530 									Un 	Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

9 	Union (Un) 	21 	.5521* 							Mr 			Nt 	NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 		Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

10 	Notre Dame (Nt) 	20 	.5489 											NH 	CC 	NO 	Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

11t 	New Hampshire (NH) 	17 	.5435 												CC 	NO 	Da 		BU 	WM 	Me 		AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

11t 	Colorado College (CC) 	17 	.5263 														Da 	RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

13t 	Nebraska-Omaha (NO) 	16 	.5325 												CC 		Da 		BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 		Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

13t 	Dartmouth (Da) 	16 	.5301 															RP 	BU 	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

15 	Rensselaer (RP) 	15 	.5235 											NH 		NO 			BU 			Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

16t 	Boston University (BU) 	14 	.5279 																	WM 	Me 	Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

16t 	Western Michigan (WM) 	14 	.5240 									Un 						RP 			Me 	Mn 	AA 		AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

18t 	Maine (Me) 	12 	.5246 															RP 				Mn 	AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 		BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

18t 	Minnesota (Mn) 	12 	.5184 											NH 									AA 	SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

20 	[IE] Alaska-Anchorage (AA) 	10 	.5137 																					SC 	AF 	Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

21 	[IE] St. Cloud State (SC) 	9 	.5116 																	WM 						Ak 	Wi 	FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

22t 	[AQ] Air Force (AF) 	7 	.5119 																					SC 				FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

22t 	[IE] Alaska (Ak) 	7 	.5088 																						AF 		Wi 	FS 		Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

24t 	Wisconsin (Wi) 	6 	.5211 																						AF 			FS 	BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	

24t 	Ferris State (FS) 	6 	.5073 																		Me 								BS 	Cr 	Pn 	RT 	Qn

26 	[IE] Bemidji State (BS) 	5 	.5016 													NO 										Ak 					Pn 	RT 	Qn

27 	Cornell (Cr) 	4 	.5060 																										BS 		Pn 	RT 	Qn

28 	Princeton (Pn) 	2 	.5109 																													RT 	Qn

29t 	RIT (RT) 	1 	.5057 																														Qn

29t 	Quinnipiac (Qn) 	1 	.5025 																								Wi 	

Thus the Brackets would be:

1 Yale v 16 Air Force

8 Denver v 9 Union

2 North Dakota v 15 RPI

7 Merrimack v 10 Notre Dame

3 BC v 14 Dartmouth

6 Minn-Duluth v 11 New Hampshire

4 Miami v 13 UNO

5 Michigan v 12 CC

Perfect bracket integrity with no inter-conference match-ups.

A couple of notes:

Denver and Air Force can be travel buddies heading to the East.

I do see UND going to Green Bay in this case though w/ the Miami bracket in St. Louis.

A (likely?) chance for an all WCHA Frozen Four.

I have spoken posted...so it shall be. ;)

if this were how the final pairiwise were to look I'm pretty sure they would do some switching to get duluth in green bay.

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if this were how the final pairiwise were to look I'm pretty sure they would do some switching to get duluth in green bay.

If you switch Duluth to get them into Green Bay(or St. Louis), you create a inter conference match-up in the 1st round by either Merrimack/New Hampshire or UMD/CC

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The number of remaining games is small enough that it's now possible to accurately describe the remaining possibilities.

Here's my stab, taken from my NCAA Hockey Tournament Field Shaping Up post (which has a lot more details on the odds of each team finishing with each particular ranking):

Other than the AHA champ, Cornell is the only possible non-top 16 autobid , so #14 in PWR will make it. #15 will if Cornell loses.

In the NCAA tournament: Yale, UND, BC, Michigan, Miami, Denver, Minnesota-Duluth, Merrimack, Union, Notre Dame, New Hampshire, Western Michigan

In: Autobid goes to Winner of Air Force/RIT

In if Cornell loses: Nebraska-Omaha, CC, RPI

In if Cornell wins: Cornell and two of those three (UNO, CC, RPI)

Out: Maine, Dartmouth, BU

A little more on UNO vs. CC vs. RPI (remember, which only matters if Cornell beats Yale, otherwise all three are in) –

Dartmouth beats or ties Colgate, Michigan or Notre Dame wins — RPI is out

Dartmouth beats or ties Colgate, Notre Dame ties Michigan, Miami beats Western Michigan — RPI is out

Dartmouth beats or ties Colgate, Notre Dame ties Michigan, Western Michigan beats Miami — UNO is out

Colgate beats Dartmouth, Michigan beats Notre Dame — CC is out

Colgate beats Dartmouth, Notre Dame beats Michigan, Western Michigan beats Miami — UNO is out

Colgate beats Dartmouth, Notre Dame beats Michigan, Miami beats Western Michigan –- RPI is out

Colgate beats Dartmouth, Michigan ties Notre Dame, Miami beats Western Michigan — CC is out

Colgate beats Dartmouth, Michigan ties Notre Dame, Western Michigan beats Miami — UNO is out

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We gotta root for UNH to win.

According o jason moy of USCHO, theres a strong chance that if UNH loses that they will end up as a 4 seed. And after avoiding interconference matchups, the only number one see they would likely see is UND in manchester. Same rink as last year when we quit playing with .01 seconds to play in the third period.

GO UNH!

Also is UNH wins we are guarenteed the #2 overall seed.

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We gotta root for UNH to win.

According o jason moy of USCHO, theres a strong chance that if UNH loses that they will end up as a 4 seed. And after avoiding interconference matchups, the only number one see they would likely see is UND in manchester. Same rink as last year when we quit playing with .01 seconds to play in the third period.

GO UNH!

Also is UNH wins we are guarenteed the #2 overall seed.

The only way we get shipped out to Manchester is if UNH is a #4 seed AND Merrimack gets the final #1 seed.

The latter is the one that isn't as likely. Could still happen, but it looks like Miami has the best shot at the final #1 seed.

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  • 2 weeks later...

UND said polls, schmolls, rankings, schmankings. They went out on the ice and took care of business.

They've been doing this pretty regularly since Christmas.

I am really impressed with this team; I'll admit I was apprehensive about today's game vs Denver, but they went out and played Sioux hockey and sent the Pios home.

Some serious good karma floating around this team right now.

Look at Nelson: knocked out of last night's game and comes back and scores a HUGE goal today. That's karma, there.

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