SiouxMD Posted December 19, 2009 Posted December 19, 2009 34-20 UNI Halftime. 20 points in a half? Quote
Shawn-O Posted December 19, 2009 Posted December 19, 2009 20 points in a half? It sounds bad but I don't see how this team could have lost to Mayville. Quote
Stromer Posted December 19, 2009 Posted December 19, 2009 It sounds bad but I don't see how this team could have lost to Mayville. Exactly. We are not shooting the ball very good but we aren't being beat in every area like we did against Mayville. Makes you wonder. Edit: I guess we are shooting 43% which isn't horrible. This is just a strange game. Quote
gfhockey Posted December 19, 2009 Posted December 19, 2009 Also dislike this so called offense... this princeton offense is gunna be hard to get players to come here no PPG means no quality players Quote
UND92,96 Posted December 19, 2009 Posted December 19, 2009 I really dislike this zone defense. It doesn't seem to work very well no matter how talented--or untalented--the opposition is. Even Bemidji torched us with 3's... Quote
Shawn-O Posted December 19, 2009 Posted December 19, 2009 I have a feeling we will be seeing Jake coaching on a big stage in the future. You can bet Gary Barta at Iowa is watching. Quote
UND92,96 Posted December 19, 2009 Posted December 19, 2009 I didn't see the game today--did Josh Schuler actually play, or was it just a mistake in the box score showing that he played 3 minutes (and thereby gave up his red-shirt status)? Quote
bincitysioux Posted December 20, 2009 Author Posted December 20, 2009 I didn't see the game today--did Josh Schuler actually play, or was it just a mistake in the box score showing that he played 3 minutes (and thereby gave up his red-shirt status)? I wasn't at the game, but I watched on TV last last night. I didn't notice him get in there. With everyone now healthy, I wouldn't think they'd have put him in there. Quote
UND92,96 Posted December 20, 2009 Posted December 20, 2009 I wasn't at the game, but I watched on TV last last night. I didn't notice him get in there. With everyone now healthy, I wouldn't think they'd have put him in there. It had to be a mistake in the box score. You'd think such a radical move would have warranted mention in the Herald, and there was none. Quote
sioux2013 Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Schuler was on the bench in street clothes. As you all are aware I am very pro the coaches and players. They need time but my patience is running alittle thin with this zone defense. Every team has torched us with wide and I mean wide open threes. This game a kid that averged 2 pts/game made 7 threes for 21 points. Its time to switch to some sort of man to man defense. All these players are about the same size so lets have a switching man to man defense. It will definately not allow wide open threes and that is what is killing this team, besides scoring hardly any points. Quote
SiouxMD Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Schuler was on the bench in street clothes. As you all are aware I am very pro the coaches and players. They need time but my patience is running alittle thin with this zone defense. Every team has torched us with wide and I mean wide open threes. This game a kid that averged 2 pts/game made 7 threes for 21 points. Its time to switch to some sort of man to man defense. All these players are about the same size so lets have a switching man to man defense. It will definately not allow wide open threes and that is what is killing this team, besides scoring hardly any points. 12-19-09 114 NCAA DI games were scheduled...the lowest team point totals are as follows: 34 Eastern Washington 39 Shorter College (NAIA) 41 Alcorn 41 Gonzaga 41 Jackson State 41 NORTH DAKOTA 44 Bryan College (NAIA) 44 Delaware State 46 UMES 48 Vassar (NAIA) 48 Mt St Mary 49 Chicago St 49 NIU 49 Ball State 49 USF 49 Occidental College (NAIA) UND and Occidental College were the only teams listed above that were not playing on the road. Quote
sioux2013 Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 UND took only 36 shots for the game. Looking over stats for other college games and i would say they average shot attempts is near 60 per game, we had 36. Please speed up the offense. It cant hurt we are 1-11. As mentioned above you wont get many recruits when you cant score. Quote
UND92,96 Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Sagarin now has UND at number 345 out of 347 dI teams. I'm guessing Houston Baptist--one of the two teams ranked below us--is anxious to prove they belong at that coveted 345 spot. Quote
UND1983 Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Here is my rant: I know some about basketball, no expert, but have played and watched my whole life. I obviously don Quote
star2city Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Sagarin now has UND at number 345 out of 347 dI teams. I'm guessing Houston Baptist--one of the two teams ranked below us--is anxious to prove they belong at that coveted 345 spot. What's really sad is that UND is rated 5-10 points less than half the Summit League, which is horrible at the bottom this year. Centenary lost a bunch of players because it's going DIII, yet it would be a five point favorite to UND. NDSU has dropped about 200 spots on the ratings (so much for their perpetual power in Men's BB theory - gone the way of their football power) , to about where we were last year. Yet we dropped 60-70 spots ourselves. 263 UMKC = 65.25 4 4 66.94( 336) 277 IPFW = 64.36 2 6 76.08( 55) 279 North Dakota State = 64.29 2 6 71.29( 219) 288 Centenary = 63.78 3 6 70.17( 261) 311 Southern Utah = 60.86 1 8 73.27( 144) 319 Western Illinois = 59.32 Quote
coachdags Posted December 22, 2009 Posted December 22, 2009 As in any Sport it becomes a a issue of execution when the lights come on. Then it gets further complicated when the opposition (again any Sport) makes adjustments and takes away what you are trying to do. I have seen more experienced Coaches than Brian and the boys have trouble with this. Mac at ISU right now is struggling to get his players to understand how to react and play the team game of basketball. Obiviously the better the talent you have, the more mistakes get covered up...... We do need better players and to learn how to compete more consistently.....imo Quote
UND92,96 Posted December 22, 2009 Posted December 22, 2009 What's really sad is that UND is rated 5-10 points less than half the Summit League, which is horrible at the bottom this year. Centenary lost a bunch of players because it's going DIII, yet it would be a five point favorite to UND. NDSU has dropped about 200 spots on the ratings (so much for their perpetual power in Men's BB theory - gone the way of their football power) , to about where we were last year. Yet we dropped 60-70 spots ourselves. 263 UMKC = 65.25 4 4 66.94( 336) 277 IPFW = 64.36 2 6 76.08( 55) 279 North Dakota State = 64.29 2 6 71.29( 219) 288 Centenary = 63.78 3 6 70.17( 261) 311 Southern Utah = 60.86 1 8 73.27( 144) 319 Western Illinois = 59.32 A little off-topic, but do you happen to know why Massey ranks all college football teams regardless of division, but apparently only ranks dI basketball teams? I was curious about how the computer would rank UND relative to NSIC/MIAC/DAC teams, but as of now Massey doesn't include non-dI's: http://www.mratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb Quote
fgoSioux Posted December 22, 2009 Posted December 22, 2009 What's really sad is that UND is rated 5-10 points less than half the Summit League, which is horrible at the bottom this year. Centenary lost a bunch of players because it's going DIII, yet it would be a five point favorite to UND. NDSU has dropped about 200 spots on the ratings (so much for their perpetual power in Men's BB theory - gone the way of their football power) , to about where we were last year. Yet we dropped 60-70 spots ourselves. 263 UMKC = 65.25 4 4 66.94( 336) 277 IPFW = 64.36 2 6 76.08( 55) 279 North Dakota State = 64.29 2 6 71.29( 219) 288 Centenary = 63.78 3 6 70.17( 261) 311 Southern Utah = 60.86 1 8 73.27( 144) 319 Western Illinois = 59.32 wow..that's a sad list of Basketball teams.....and we are the worst of the bunch... I will say it once..I will say it a thousand times..Jones has to GO!!!!!!! Quote
UND92,96 Posted December 22, 2009 Posted December 22, 2009 This probably won't come as a surprise to many, but according to the latest NCAA statistics, UND has allowed more 3-pointers than any dI team in the country (112). Opponents are shooting 40.6% from 3-point range against the Sioux. Quote
BringDeanBack Posted December 22, 2009 Posted December 22, 2009 A little off-topic, but do you happen to know why Massey ranks all college football teams regardless of division, but apparently only ranks dI basketball teams? I was curious about how the computer would rank UND relative to NSIC/MIAC/DAC teams, but as of now Massey doesn't include non-dI's: http://www.mratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb Don't ask, don't tell. I think many of those teams would be above UND. Quote
BringDeanBack Posted December 22, 2009 Posted December 22, 2009 wow..that's a sad list of Basketball teams.....and we are the worst of the bunch... I will say it once..I will say it a thousand times..Jones has to GO!!!!!!! Yep, I'm so glad that one of the biggest arguments for changing the Sioux name early is to "get our basketball teams into the Summitt". Sure makes sense to push a lousy team, into a lousy conference, at the sacrifice of the Sioux Men's Hockey Team. Quote
82SiouxGuy Posted December 22, 2009 Posted December 22, 2009 Yep, I'm so glad that one of the biggest arguments for changing the Sioux name early is to "get our basketball teams into the Summitt". Sure makes sense to push a lousy team, into a lousy conference, at the sacrifice of the Sioux Men's Hockey Team. Sorry, I don't buy that the hockey team will be affected that much, and don't see how they will be sacrificed. People are still going to attend the games, the Ralph isn't going anyplace and the team will still have the equipment they need. Donations will probably decrease for a while if the name is changed, but I don't think it will be as bad as some imagine. And the fortunes of the basketball team could change quickly. In basketball you only need 2 or 3 good players to make a huge difference. Making a major decision that will affect the future of the entire Athletic Department based on a bad basketball team this year is very short sighted. Getting into a regular conference is very important for the future of the basketball teams, volleyball, soccer, track, baseball, softball and other sports. Quote
Shawn-O Posted December 22, 2009 Posted December 22, 2009 Yep, I'm so glad that one of the biggest arguments for changing the Sioux name early is to "get our basketball teams into the Summitt". Sure makes sense to push a lousy team, into a lousy conference, at the sacrifice of the Sioux Men's Hockey Team. We could keep the name...when Minnesota and Wisconsin bolt for a Big Ten conference they could choose not to play UND. Quote
SooToo Posted December 23, 2009 Posted December 23, 2009 Sorry, I don't buy that the hockey team will be affected that much, and don't see how they will be sacrificed. People are still going to attend the games, the Ralph isn't going anyplace and the team will still have the equipment they need. Donations will probably decrease for a while if the name is changed, but I don't think it will be as bad as some imagine. ... In fact I would guess a large majority of UND fans are ready to move on. While there always will be die-hards, I think most fans -- though they celebrate the nickname -- are weary of the battle, understand the implications and are ready to respectfully retire the nickname and, with reservations, transition to the future. I've never understood the "nickname>>>university" crowd. Quote
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