Siouxpremacy Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 There are definitely a lot of oversensitive and thin-skinned people. But common courtesy, civility and consideration are all way down, and rude behavior is way up. The developments may or may not be related. My guess is the oversensitive and thin skinned people are less courtious and rude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 My guess is the oversensitive and thin skinned people are less courtious and rude. A lot of them may be. But a lot of them are also very shy. They may hold those feelings in until they explode. I would guess that a lot of oversensitive and thin-skinned people get walked on and pushed around by bullies and blowhards who I know are less courteous and rude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux-cia Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Funny, I bet that the older people paid at least as much as you did for that same seat. So they deserve a little consideration. You aren't the only one there to enjoy the game, deal with it. Not only is there lack of consideration among some but they have an overly exaggerated sense of entitlement as well. When you have spent as much money supporting the Fighting Sioux athletic program as some of those fans who still attend the games and are 'too old' to stand, come back with your bull shat. Until then, try having a bit of respect for your fellow fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Not only is there lack of consideration among some but sense of entitlement as well. When you have spent as much money supporting the Fighting Sioux athletic program as some of those fans who still attend the games and are 'too old' to stand, come back with your bull shat. Until then, try having a bit of respect for your fellow fan. Respect is a good word, especially for the older fans. Many of them have been supporting UND for many years, and spent many dollars. They definitely deserve some respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGSIOUX Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 maybe im slow, but im having trouble judging the response to my question. Was i out of line to stand up during a breakaway? thats it, no being a rude a hole doing it all game... it seems like it is about 50-50 out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Whistler Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 maybe im slow, but im having trouble judging the response to my question. Was i out of line to stand up during a breakaway? thats it, no being a rude a hole doing it all game... it seems like it is about 50-50 out there. If you were to stand in front of me I wouldn't be upset with you getting excited and standing up. I'd just rather you didn't stand because someone back in the chain is going to miss the play. I don't think you want that either. Personally I'm tall enough that I can usually move around and still see the play without standing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 maybe im slow, but im having trouble judging the response to my question. Was i out of line to stand up during a breakaway? thats it, no being a rude a hole doing it all game... it seems like it is about 50-50 out there. I think it depends on who you ask. Standing up during a breakaway is probably a natural response for an ardent fan. But it also interferes with the ability of those behind you to see the play, especially those that may have difficulty getting up quickly. And if you start with the people in front standing, by the time the chain reaction gets to the back of the section there will probably be a group of people that miss the play. So the answer is probably that it depends on whether the people in front of you stand up, and whether you want to be considerate of the people in back of you or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 maybe im slow, but im having trouble judging the response to my question. Was i out of line to stand up during a breakaway? thats it, no being a rude a hole doing it all game... it seems like it is about 50-50 out there. Stand up on a breakaway, then sit down--that's not rude. In church, maybe, but not at the rink. Now, to stand up, howl at the moon and urinate over as many rows below you as your stream can reach is just outside the range of acceptable hockey behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGSIOUX Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Stand up on a breakaway, then sit down--that's not rude. In church, maybe, but not at the rink. Now, to stand up, howl at the moon and urinate over as many rows below you as your stream can reach is just outside the range of acceptable hockey behavior. hahaha. thats pretty much how i see it as well. im not trying to be inconsiderate to those behind me, but it is a natural reaction and im at the game for a good time and be involved in the game, not to sit and observe. i could do that at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux-cia Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Stand up on a breakaway, then sit down--that's not rude. In church, maybe, but not at the rink. Yep. *I deleted the peeing part. I don't have that option. * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Yep. *I deleted the peeing part. I don't have that option. * Just thinking of yourself, are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxpremacy Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Yep. *I deleted the peeing part. I don't have that option. * So it is OK?? What about the old person too old to stand up that has spent so much money supporting the program as you state previously? How about you make up your mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Whistler Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 hahaha. thats pretty much how i see it as well. im not trying to be inconsiderate to those behind me, but it is a natural reaction and im at the game for a good time and be involved in the game, not to sit and observe. i could do that at home. That's why I don't personally get upset when someone stands up. They aren't doing it to be rude. They're just excited at the play. Dawdling down the steps so that you're expecting me to stand up during play is another thing. I'll sit down on the steps if I have to until the play is stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejm Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 That's why I don't personally get upset when someone stands up. They aren't doing it to be rude. They're just excited at the play. Or peeing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 So it is OK?? What about the old person too old to stand up that has spent so much money supporting the program as you state previously? How about you make up your mind? Rmember the context. Big Sioux asked if it is rude to stand for a breakaway. There are maybe 3 of those a game, hardly enough to ruin the value of someone's season ticket purchase. We're not talking about bonehead fans at many sports who just stand continually without giving thought to those behind them. I'm a real stickler about being considerate of others, but when there are moments like a breakaway or the closing seconds of a tight game when the other team has pulled its goalie, I will stand unless I know it is a problem for those directly behind me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Whistler Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Rmember the context. Big Sioux asked if it is rude to stand for a breakaway. There are maybe 3 of those a game, hardly enough to ruin the value of someone's season ticket purchase. We're not talking about bonehead fans at many sports who just stand continually without giving thought to those behind them. I'm a real stickler about being considerate of others, but when there are moments like a breakaway or the closing seconds of a tight game when the other team has pulled its goalie, I will stand unless I know it is a problem for those directly behind me. That's true, but the guy behind you might miss the play all three of those times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Whistler Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Or peeing... I thought it was the Gopher fans that peed on the ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxpremacy Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Rmember the context. Big Sioux asked if it is rude to stand for a breakaway. There are maybe 3 of those a game, hardly enough to ruin the value of someone's season ticket purchase. We're not talking about bonehead fans at many sports who just stand continually without giving thought to those behind them. I'm a real stickler about being considerate of others, but when there are moments like a breakaway or the closing seconds of a tight game when the other team has pulled its goalie, I will stand unless I know it is a problem for those directly behind me. I know, I think it is OK to stand up on a breakaway. I do not condone standing in general during the game, but at times that is part of the atmosphere at being "AT THE GAME". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux-cia Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Rmember the context. Big Sioux asked if it is rude to stand for a breakaway. There are maybe 3 of those a game, hardly enough to ruin the value of someone's season ticket purchase. We're not talking about bonehead fans at many sports who just stand continually without giving thought to those behind them. I'm a real stickler about being considerate of others, but when there are moments like a breakaway or the closing seconds of a tight game when the other team has pulled its goalie, I will stand unless I know it is a problem for those directly behind me. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Frankly, it makes me a little proud, though not surprised, that a fair number of Sioux fans might think it rude to stand during a breakaway. Illustrates that sense of civility and respect midwesterners are know for. But then we hockey fans are animals, so I guess that little observation goes nowhere . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 So it is OK?? What about the old person too old to stand up that has spent so much money supporting the program as you state previously? How about you make up your mind? I wouldn't classify it as rude, but I would say it is somewhat inconsiderate of the people behind you. As was stated by others, it doesn't happen a lot. It doesn't make the incident less inconsiderate or rude, but a few minor incidents don't measure up to the same effect as a lot of minor incidents or a major incident like pouring a beer on someone. I don't know if being rude is always black and white (although it can be depending on the incident). I think inconsiderate and rude are both shades of gray, with inconsiderate being a lighter shade and rude being a darker shade. Standing on a rare breakaway is a lighter shade of gray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I wouldn't classify it as rude, but I would say it is somewhat inconsiderate of the people behind you. As was stated by others, it doesn't happen a lot. It doesn't make the incident less inconsiderate or rude, but a few minor incidents don't measure up to the same effect as a lot of minor incidents or a major incident like pouring a beer on someone. I don't know if being rude is always black and white (although it can be depending on the incident). I think inconsiderate and rude are both shades of gray, with inconsiderate being a lighter shade and rude being a darker shade. Standing on a rare breakaway is a lighter shade of gray. Never really thought of hockey as being nuanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlsiouxfan Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Different day, same old crap. For the students on this forum just remember that as long as you're a student at UND their will always be two sets of rules regarding behavior in Grand Forks. There is one set of rules for students and those of student age and another for everybody else. Just accept it and try to remember when you get older that just because you're no longer of student age it doesn't entitle you to treat those younger than you like crap just because you're older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 & then hopefully you grow up & not be so self centered & inconsiderate of others - If everyone stays seated all can see - now I know it happens out of excitement - but everytime something is about to happen is not OK & after being asked once you should try & control yourself or stay in school forever & go sit in the student section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Different day, same old crap. For the students on this forum just remember that as long as you're a student at UND their will always be two sets of rules regarding behavior in Grand Forks. There is one set of rules for students and those of student age and another for everybody else. Just accept it and try to remember when you get older that just because you're no longer of student age it doesn't entitle you to treat those younger than you like crap just because you're older. It's kind of funny that most students and young people feel they are harassed and being put down. Every rule is aimed directly at them. Older people hate them and try to take advantage of them. That this town (whichever town they live in around the country) is the worst place they could possibly live and that the same thing doesn't happen in other places. And then as they get older they start to support many of the same rules and regulations they hated when they were students. And learn that not everyone was against them the whole time. It's kind of like how much smarter parents get as kids grow up and become adults. When you are a teenager you can't believe how stupid and lame your parents are. By the time you are in your mid 20s or 30s you can't believe how much your parents have learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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