UNDBIZ

I believe he was referencing my post about UND being in the same conference as Minot, Crookston, and UMary. It wasn't a slam against ND, it was a statement that UND should be associating itself with comparable schools. Other than geography (and in Minot's case the NDUS), UND has little in common with these small schools.

My response was only to still being D2 instead of moving up to D1. As far as Crookston not playing UND, I'd assume if we were in the same conference then it would be similar to UM-TC only playing UND in conference play. Not that it makes a valid argument anyways because being in the same conference as the aforementioned schools would be an embarrassment and a huge blow to student recruitment.

State appropriations are not used for athletics at UND, you've been told this before.

Yeah because playing against Minot, UMary, and Crookston would be way better for UND than playing against crappy old Texas Tech, Fresno St, and Kansas.

Ah yes because then UND could be in a conference with great local schools like Minot, Crookston, and UMary.....

No posting of direct quotes allowed unless you only use a couple of words out of context to make your point in favor of keeping the name at all costs.

What post is this directed at? Regardless, a true fan will follow the team with or without the name.

How long ago did they play at UND? Where were they from originally? What other schools offered them scholarships to play? Was UND under sanctions at the time? Is their first name Frank?

Recruits don't choose a school to make a political statement. They choose a school where they can win, get noticed (professional path), or get a good education. You wouldn't know about any of that because you have never chosen a school or played an organized sport.

And how exactly did they force him to give up on his convictions? He's a great coach who could've gotten a job anywhere. I don't believe he wouldn't have compromised his beliefs purely from "peer pressure." More likely, he realized the battle was lost and it was time to move on. Perhaps he realized that he, his assistants, and his players (along with the coaches and players of all the other athletic teams at the school) are more important than a nickname and logo.

Then please explain your statement that Hak "had to admit" the name should be retired.

Did you ever stop and think maybe people are afraid for valid reasons? Fear is a necessary and useful emotion, just ask the deer that wasn't afraid to run in front of my car last fall.... oh wait.... nevermind.

Yeah you guys, he was going to be fired if he didn't toe the company line and Hak knew that because of his abysmal record as a head coach at UND he never would've been able to get another job!!!

You probably won't notice them because you're not an actual fan of the team.....

Yeah I posted that to show that even in the NBA players are punished for skipping practice.

I fail to see the problem here....

I get the feeling AlmostHeavenIn2011 is back.....

Pretty sure Watchmaker is the parent who goes to the school and yells at the teacher when her kids get bad grades. Newsflash..... it's your fault, not the teacher's.

You people keep bringing this up. If only 10% of the tribe voted, that must mean 90% of the tribe doesn't care enough about the name either way to vote. Saying the vote is invalid because only 70% of the 10% who voted were in favor is a fool's argument.

Actually it would make North Dakota look like a bunch of idiots.....

Although I appreciate what you're trying to say here, the NCAA is not the government.....

It's something the state is often required to post. Do I think the world will be a better place for it?? No. As for the Sioux logo vs NCAA reference, do I like that that NCAA is telling UND what to do? No. Do I agree with the NCAA's policy? No. Do I think the policy is racist? Yes. Does it matter anymore? No. The state and now the people of SL have both tried and failed to have the NCAA policy overturned. It's not going to happen. At this point, all we can do is move on and do what is best for UND and the athletic teams we love.

I don't understand how you sit on your computer making assumptions about a person and his family that you've never even met. I'm getting the impression from your posts that you had a difficult childhood, but that is no excuse to assume all other parents abuse their kids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d29VsG35DQM

Blasphemy