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Less than 6 hours to kickoff and still no game day thread? Is it because it's hockey season or are you all "beeting off" with gfhockey?

Don't hate the Summit, just prefer the Big Sky.

Posted this in the Betty vs SHAC thread, but think it's relevant here too I don't disagree that seeing old NCC foes more regularly would help UND attendance for MBB, WBB, VB and other sports. My comment was more directed at those on this board who seem to think that joining the Summit would be the answer to UND's financial shortfall. I understand that it would allow more bus trips, but not confident it would mean an increase in gate receipts. Up until this IAC review, almost all (disclaimer - yes, there have been some UND posters too) of the calls for UND to join the Summit feel like they have come from Bison fans. Now, suddenly, there is this wave of support for UND to move to the Summit. There are only a couple of things to overcome here, but they are pretty big. The Big Sky would have to allow UND to leave the conference only a handful of years after it rescued UND from FCS independence when the MVFC was not gong to invite the Sioux, while allowing football to stay. I don't want to take the time to go searching for it, but I did read the Big Sky agreement with Idaho that specifically named North Dakota as one of 3 schools that would allow them to cancel the move. It's nice to be wanted. UND needs a football home, and it doesn't appear that the Summit would break off from the MVFC to form its own football conference. There has been no invitation from the MVFC, or the Summit for that matter, for UND to join the conference, and history has not trended in that direction. Yes, the Summit/MVFC has had success lately, but the Big Sky has a solid history and the affiliation differentiates UND from the other Dakota schools. It would be nice if USD hadn't joined the Summit/MVFC and left UND on an island alone, but a 14 team FCS/mid-major conference is likely to reorganize/break up sooner rather than later and an affiliation with the Montanas and Idaho feels like it has a great future... maybe one that NDSU will also want to join.

I don't disagree that seeing old NCC foes more regularly would help UND attendance for MBB, WBB, VB and other sports. My comment was more directed at those on this board who seem to think that joining the Summit would be the answer to UND's financial shortfall. I understand that it would allow more bus trips, but not confident it would mean an increase in gate receipts. Up until this IAC review, almost all (disclaimer - yes, there have been some UND posters too) of the calls for UND to join the Summit feel like they have come from Bison fans. Now, suddenly, there is this wave of support for UND to move to the Summit. There are only a couple of things to overcome here, but they are pretty big. The Big Sky would have to allow UND to leave the conference only a handful of years after it rescued UND from FCS independence when the MVFC was not gong to invite the Sioux while allowing football to stay. I don't want to take the time to go searching for it, but I did read the Big Sky agreement with Idaho that specifically named North Dakota as one of 3 schools that would allow them to cancel the move. It's nice to be wanted. UND needs a football home, and it doesn't appear that the Summit would break off from the MVFC to form its own football conference. There has been no invitation from the MVFC, or the Summit for that matter, for UND to join the conference, and history has not trended in that direction. Yes, the Summit/MVFC has had success lately, but the Big Sky has a solid history and the affiliation differentiates UND from the other Dakota schools. It would be nice if USD hadn't joined the Summit/MVFC and left UND on an island alone, but a 14 team FCS/mid-major conference is likely to reorganize/break up sooner rather than later and an affiliation with the Montanas and Idaho feels like it has a great future... maybe one that NDSU will also want to join.

This runs counter to the argument that UND would be so much better off in the Summit against old NCC rivals NDSU, USD, SDSU AND Omaha. As has been posted several times on the board, UND's attendance really doesn't go up that much unless it's NDSU. As long as Jones settles for second/third in the conference, it won't matter if UND is in the Bg Sky or the Summit or the WAC.

Only if they replace that awful red turf.

this ^^^^ now, if that conference was UND, NDSU, Montana, Montana State, Idaho, Idaho State, USD, SDSU and New Mexico State, that would be a nice conference (but NMSU might not be interested in such a northern conference). Maybe Denver for Olympic sports. Wyoming would be nice too, but you won't get them to leave the MWC.

m & w tennis and w golf are required by the BSC m golf is being funded by outside sources softball, soccer and m & w swimming/diving are not required by BSC. Is there enough funding reduction in these to meet the objective?

That piece makes it sound like there is not enough support for an FBS conference. And, with SV's cobbled-together band of misfits it feels like UND would be better off in the <choke> Summit than in thE reformed WAC with Liberty, UTRGV, et al. Now I will go wash my mouth out with soap.

Go Prairie Dawgs.

I don't see anything in this post that is not correct. However, if the Sioux go 6-1 to finish the season, whether from 1-3 or 2-2, and don't make the playoffs... That would confirm any and all conspiracy theories.

this ^^^^^^^

Any chance Bollinger could be enticed to leave CDH and become UND's Offensive Coordinator?

Drop all non required sports (except MIH) - S & D, WIH etc? and stay Big Sky

Yeaaaaaaaaahhhhhh......... NO

Going to the Summit would be like going back to D-II, or is it NCC-II?

fyp

And the Summit UND can't just declare they are joining a conference, there has to be an invite. Considering the buddy buddy relationship between Faison and Douple, this is not a given really hope this is not the goal.

What would be a successful rookie season for Wentz? considering his o-line, staying healthy enough to start 16 games

Nah... asshattery is asshattery no matter how you wrap it. Just read it differently than he said it.

Was it a bitter cover-his-arse lashing out in front of his press corps because they weren't able to generate the offense he thought they 'should' have and barely squeaked out a win over a lowly FCS team? Honest question since I did not watch the press conference.

Y'all may be reading the wrong thing into his comments. Could and Should are not the same thing. Sounds to me like the UND defense forced them out of their game plan, as in "We should have thrown 65, 70 times. If we're going to run this system and be married to it, we have to let him go out there and throw five picks." and "Hats off to North Dakota and their staff for sticking to the gameplan and not panicking,"

Different players, new coach. So, no not the same team, however is the same school.

Channel 413/412-02 on dish hopper if you have the sports package

Just playing devil's advocate here, because UND being in the Big Sky is the better choice imho, but what happened to the line that non-conference games would be easy to schedule against regional teams since the old NCC rivals are available?