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So, you think NDSU will be the next to leave the Summit?

Instead of attempting to derail the conversation, why don't you contribute to it? What does the Summit do to stabilize in your view Bison73?

Thank you for your insights, Yote 53. Question now becomes: do the university presidents and the commissioner's office have the same vision and the cajones to pull it off?

To Yote 53 and jacksfan29... USD and SDSU are probably the most committed institutions in the Summit. How do you see the Summit surviving? What do you think the plan is to stabilize? I'm not trolling, but really concerned that UND is moving to a 'convenient travel' conference that has a history of struggling to stay full. Is there a possibility of poaching other D-I schools (whether it is No Colorado, Montanas, etc)? Will the Summit merge with another conference (MVC, WAC)? Are there D-II move-ups (realizing that there is a considerable transition period before they 'count')? would like to hear your perspectives.

Yup UND is not the Sioux any more, so time to put up...

Wasn't he given an honorary doctorate a few years ago? Wouldn't that be claiming him?

There has been so much hand-wringing, so many theories for strengthening the Summit... Would really like to see the formation of a Great Northern Conference - add the Montanas, Idaho, EWU. Probably a long shot to get them to leave the Big Sky. Doubt the MVC will be willing to give up control of the MVFC to the Summit, even though they share offices, iirc. A nice idea though, if you could pull it off. Get the MVC to add the Dakota 4. Their recent solution of adding Valpo suggests that will not happen. IMHO, it seems that the fastest way to 'fix' this is by <choke> getting the old band back together. Entice Northern Colorado to leave the Big Sky and reunite the former NCC schools who have moved to D-I under the Summit banner. It will give the Summit 6 football teams, add a basketball team that has made a March Madness appearance and adds a baseball team (which wouldn't be as important if the Summit were to break off into their own football conference), but no men's soccer. For soccer, the answer is probably to add UMKC. The addition of UNC and UMKC would bring the Summit back to 10 after IPFW bolts next year and gives the Summit the baseball and soccer teams it needs. Plus it would make the option of Summit football possible with the Dakota 4, Western Illinos and Northern Colorado. Then add Minnesota State and/or Minnesota Dukuth as a move-up for insurance for WIU and Oral Roberts. Don't like this idea as much as just staying put in the Big Sky, but afraid that ship has sailed and UND's move to the Summit is inevitable.

hope you are right about this

Yes, it may have been the right decision at the time and under the circumstances, but it still stings that it happened. Also would have preferred not having the best nickname in athletics replaced by such a bland, generic adjective/bird one like almost every other former Native American nicknamed school has done.

Where, at this point in time, would Jones go? Is it possible, in the negotiations, that both Jones and Faison think they are in the power seat with Jones making larger demands and Faison thinking Jones has no other option?

Yeah. Thanks. Fixed it. (Cherokees are down here in AZ)

And enrolled Cherokee Chippewa members who hate the honoring of the Sioux Nation.

Like that one a lot! Well done Bin!

If we are dreaming... UND NDSU USD SDSU Montana Montana State Idaho Idaho State Wyoming Denver 9 football / 10 basketball

Gonna miss the Big Sky Fun to watch those venues

MVC is looking more and more like a one bid conference. Replacing Creighton with Loyola and Wichita with Valpo will not make their profile better and intraconference games will not help them get a second bid. Horizon is in the same boat. The possibility of the Summit getting two bids may be as good as either of those two at this point. Will depend on pre-conference scheduling more than anything.

If the length of this thread is an indication, it is back stronger than ever. More activity in this thread than there was in all the WIH threads for the previous 4 years total!

New Mexico State?

Or Omaha without UNC. 8 football/10 olympic

You mean like Minnesota State University instead of Minnesota State University - Moorhead? oh wait... that one's already taken. It was just plain Moorhead State University not that long ago.

If the Horizon League takes IPFW with or without IUPUI out of the Summit, baseball will only have 5 teams. Would the Summit, for baseball, add either Northern Colorado (WAC affiliate) or go after Dallas Baptist (MVC affiliate) to get back to 6? Would UMKC return (no baseball)? UND not in a position to add baseball, but Summit League's auto bid would be in danger if Ft Wayne leaves. Just another reason to question the move to the Summit. on another note... Since UND is not eligible to win conference titles next season in the Big Sky - if UND would happen to win either MBB or WBB, is there any chance the Hawks would get an at-large bid?

In this day of so many single parent families, I can't fathom how some of the posters on this board can take a position that it is wrong to be a father to your child. It just makes no freaking sense that some people think football is more important than being a complete person and choosing your priorities wisely. Thank you for being a good role model for a young man who will obviously be a good role model, not only for his child, but also for people in your home town and the young people who are fans of UND who will be able to see that some choices are difficult, but the right decision will benefit the important people in the long run. Here's hoping Mr Grady has a great career at UND followed by a successful pro career and some great opportunities in elementary education (eventually )

Not a fan of Sundogs, but at least it wouldn't have been the 44th iteration of a Hawk or the 250th bird

Kinda thought UND should pay homage to the Flickertails and go with Prairie Dawgs. Could have been some good logo ideas there.