JohnboyND7

I don't know if UND could average 15,000. UND was getting 10,000 playing Duluth and Mankato cause UND was having a stretch of good seasons as well as WINNING these games. If UND was playing the Wyoming's and Fresno's of the world, and getting beat down which would probably happen for awhile, attendence would not average 15,000. As long as Grand Forks is roughly the size that it is, UND would have trouble moving to FBS with a fellow Division 1 school in North Dakota's largest center of population. Cool. You could use UND in NCAA on playstation. Totally a reason to move up and be a D- or D quality team on it every year. I'm with Hayduke in that NDSU would be the one most situated to move up at some point. That doesn't mean NDSU would be any good, for all I know we'd suck bad, but still in the best situation to move up.

I think you make very good points. Very important to be in a buyer's conference. That is one concern (thread drift) I have about the Summit. Carry on.

NDSU made money on the playoff games. So the quote is wrong. My cousin made money betting on the championship game, was it legal betting that I do not know. You know that JMU would probably call UND the wanna-bes. JMU has an FBS level stadium, and beat Va Tech two seasons ago. Also plays in the CAA. Also has a National Title. Just because they aren't Virginia or Maryland doesn't make them a wanna-be. You'd rather be in a conference with Weber St., Northern Colorado, and Southern Utah than teams like JMU, Liberty, Jacksonville, and possibly some other quality progams possibly including Montana and Montana St?

Finishing top 3-4 consistently in a good conference is a good goal I'd say. Especially in a conference with Montana and Montana State. Expecting UND to finish 1st every year is just not realistic. Finishing top 3 will often get you into the playoffs I imagine and top 4 might especially with the expanded field. Also, you should keep in mind that the coaches in Cheney, Missoula, and Bozeman are also recruiting kids who want to win the Big Sky, and right now, all three of those teams have recently won Big Sky crowns and know exactly what it takes to do well.

I don't know a person who refers to UND as the U. When I hear the "U" up here, I think of U of M. Or Miami.

I'm with dmk on this. Better to be surprised in a good way by your team than to have wayyy too high of expectations like some fans can do and watch the team fall short of that. I'm sure Montana,Montana State, and Eastern Washington are excited about their recruits too and have all proven they know what it takes to be successful at the this level.

Both of you make good points. If the Steelers of today played the Steelers of the 70's, no doubt the Steelers of today would pound the piss out of them. Relative to the rest of the competition though, the Steelers of yesteryear are always going to be considered better. If Notre Dame played against the Rockne Fighting Irish, the current edition would not hesitate to put up 70-100 points on the board.

Don't be stupid

Not to nitpick but then wouldn't the proper term but to say his religion is the reason? Just because you are from Samoa wouldn't be the reason for the mission, it'd be because you are mormon.

The ones that normally do missions around this time is Mormons? If he is a Mormon that is not an ethnicity, but a religion.

He applied, didn't get it.

One would imagine they believe that the 2001(title team?) is probably more talented.

I think it should be given to the students. Even all the online ones . 1.Without the students, there is no university to even have a nickname. 2. Also, with 14,000 students, the chances of a stupid name winning goes down compared to if you left it up to the student government or the faculty. 3. I think it should be a runoff vote or whatever where you can pick 2 or 3 options. So if your favorite choice doesn't win, your vote still ends up counting in the final between the final 2 choices. I would think this would also help prevent some stupid name from taking over(which I imagine at least one of the options will be something dumb). Just my two cents from the Ol' Moo U as you fellas like to call us.

Oh dear, I am just thinking that walk-ons at FBS schools probably don't do much the majority of the time. Troll statement not intended as a troll statement. Heck, I'd be more than happy to ride the pine at NDSU or Notre Dame. Just being on the team would be a great experience.

San Diego St. could be an interesting game. From what I have gathered, they lost a lot from last years team. UND should be better than last year, but how much better is a good question. Hopefully for you guys, at the very least it is a good game. Hopefully for me, San Diego State runs up the score. Good opportunity for UND to show the Big Sky that they are ready to compete quickly.

If he grew up a Badger fan, now is his time to live our that dream of sitting on the bench at Camp Randall.

After Gunner Kiel verballed to Indiana, he then switched his commitment several times. Going so far as to early enroll at LSU before showing up in South Bend a week later. I would venture to say that any school interested in winning may need to do some things that someone like you would frown upon. I honestly don't see anything wrong with offering a kid a discounted education to come play football when as of right now, he will be paying to play football at another school.

Johnson Hall had its share of good times. Thats strange, because I always found Grand Forks to be the same as you found Fargo. The worst part, they wrote my friend up in El Forko for letting me have a dip in his room. I understanded no smoking(ew) but i couldnt enjoy a dip. Back to recruiting. We will see the details surrounding what's going on, hopefully soon. I was not disappointed to see NDSU lost out of this individual, because we will have such a small class next year due to the small number of seniors this upcoming season. I am however, disappointed that someone would prefer to stay at UND.....or maybe he is waiting for UW to talk to him a bit more.

Nah, the only thing lost that night would have been Danny Kristo and his shoes.

Not fun seeing stuff like that on teh internets. I have been to the parties up in Forks. Average at best. Nice typo.

Not entirely sure how this would affect NDSU. Would UNI or ISUr be joining the Big Sky/WAC?

I would imagine according to the NCAA he isn't on UND's roster at this point in time. Well, there is where you are wrong. I haven't ripped UND's recruiting class because I don't pay attention to most recruiting things unless Iread about them in the paper. I wouldn't call it a new low. I watched helplessly as NDSU endured a 3-8 season. Right now, NDSU is on a roll.

NDSU is not desperate I imagine. I presume NDSU saw the guy had potential and showed it in some All-Star game, correct? He wasn't signed to anything. Threw an offer out. Worth a try if they wanted him. Nothing wrong with doing that. If it isn't against any NCAA rules that is.

Can't wait to see what if any posts start attacking Bohl

Wouldn't worry about it. Though it does give some entertainment for the summer to look at people.