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The process could have been flawless. UND could have chosen a great unique name and developed an even better logo, and there would still almost as many people upset with the process. We ALL can agree that the entire process of retiring the Fighting Sioux name and coming up with a replacement was a cluster $&#% from the beginning. From bills in the ND state legislature, to lawsuits, to settlements, to tribal votes, to no tribal votes, to measures on the ballot, to committees, to dropping the "no nickname option" to the final 5 tom be voted on to selecting a new logo. If you want to write a book on how not to go through a nickname and logo change at a University, This process could be the standard showing that. All the resistance, hatred and unaccepting attitude for the Fighting Hawks name and logo can all be narrowed down to one thing. And that is the NCAA telling UND that they had to retire the Fighting Sioux name. You can classify all this animosity toward the Fighting Hawks name/logo as misplaced rage. People are angry that UND had to change its nickname. Everyone was. We all were united on that fight that this was ridiculous and the NCAA was overstepping their bounds. Once the settlement was signed and the time passed to get tribal approval, people had to direct their anger towards someone else other than the NCAA. Eventually that became the one thing that represented and reminded people that we were not the Fighting Sioux anymore, the Fighting Hawks name and logo. Like I said, it didn't matter what the name or logo was. God himself could have come up with it and people would still resist it. We are were all one angry about the Fighting Sioux nickname being forced to be retired. Some of us have realized that staying angry about that issue and resisting change, in the grand scheme of things, just wasn't worth fighting anymore. Not that we gave up, we just accepted reality and moved on with the new name and logo. And you know what, it didn't kill us. Our school pride and our love for UND athletics wasn't any less. We are all fans of UND athletics. We all have gone through the same emotions regarding the nickname throughout this entire process. Anger, resentment and resistance to the Fighting Hawks name/logo is not going to unite us as a fanbase. It is only going to divide us. Let us all come together and support the University of North Dakota Fighting Hawks.

UND senior captain retires from football due to injuries http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4242414-und-senior-captain-retires-football-due-injuries

0-1. Pretty good sample size to form a conclusion!

So what is preventing other national teams from demanding the same type of compensation? The Olympic curling teams train all year round and all of them have full time jobs. Their compensation is next to nothing. Do they deserve $70,000 a year?

There is resistance from a lot of fans with the new name and logo. This we all know. There are people that absolutely refuse to accept the new name and logo and will proudly wear their Fighting Sioux gear till the day they die and never utter the word "Fighting Hawks" unless they are ripping on it. That attitude is unfortunate, but kind of expected. People resist change. It's human nature. What many are saying here about Berry is that he needs to be supporting the University and the athletic department in the re branding initiative with the Fighting Hawks name and logo. He is an employee of the University. Not saying he has to be talking about hoe great the Fighting Hawks name and logo is at every press conference. But he is barely even acknowledging right now. Maybe there was one time he wore a Fighting Hawks polo during an interview. But 99% of the time, he is not. AS the coach of the highest profile sport at UND, he has an opportunity and IMO and obligation to support the new name and logo. Fans can show resistance all they want. But as an employee in the athletic department, he has shown little to no support for the Fighting Hawks name and logo and the re branding process UND is going through. And that is embarrassing.

Aren't the members of the womens National team considered professionals? Especially now that they are getting a substantial salary? Are you proposing these women should not be on the national team now?!

The deal. http://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/19026627/usa-hockey-us-women-national-team-reach-agreement-avoid-boycott So the question is, what lower level hockey program(s) that USA hockey supports will now suffer because these women feel like playing a 9 day tournament is worth $70,000 a year?!!

You can still keep that tradition and culture with a new name. Again, it all goes back to what Bubba has done. UND has a strong football tradition. It is not any less as the North Dakota Fighting Hawks than it was as the North Dakota Fighting Sioux. Berry needs to start promoting the new name and logo, much like the other coaches at UND have.

"And, really, that's perfect timing. If UND is going to shake things up, it should cut deep with the future in mind. UND shouldn't make this historic cut by trimming the bare minimum, allowing programs to be funded at poor levels and going about its business with the status quo." This right here. If we make the bare minimum in cuts to make budget, there may be a point down the road where we need to cut additional sports. I say cut more than what is needed to boost programs like mens basketball/football/volleyball/etc up. Many of us agree that cutting WHKY is going to make the biggest dent in the budget as far as cost savings. But UND should think proactively and cut 2-3 more sports so that the remaining sports can increase their budgets to pay their coaches appropriately in comparison to other schools in our future conferences (Summit/MVFC).

I guess if they want to be the best, they need to learn to lose in heartbreaking fashion like the best.....or like we have done in the Frozen Four!!

Fargo U, FU, Moo U, Ag College, NDAC, and Jan Brady U are all aliases for NDSU. (I am sure there are more). They can be used interchangeably.

I understand their concerns. I agree that the "perks" that are given to the mens national team should also be given to the women's team. Allowing guests to travel to games, flying first class, etc. That's all USA hockey has to do. In regards to compensation, they just need to match what the mens team is making (which I think is fairly close to what the women make, but again no one is asking that question). The women essentially want USA hockey to be their employer and offer them pay and benefits. Problem is, USA hockey is not an employer for hockey players. And they have stated that.

Could you imagine if the team went through with the boycott and the replacement players went on to win the World Championships?!!

What is he supposed to do? Assume that the program is going to be cut and just sit and do nothing? When you are a job and you are hearing rumors that they are cutting your department, do you stay home from work? No, you go to work like usual until something gets announced. I doubt Idalski or any of the coaches know what Kennedy is going to announce. So until then, go about your business like usual.

Yeah, that worked out real well for them didn't it!!

I get your passion. I was there with you. But when it came to a point where keeping the name was going to hurt UND athletics (not hosting playoff games, conference affiliation, non conference teams not scheduling us, etc) then I accepted reality and had no other choice but to get on board with UND dropping the Fighting Sioux name. Yes, the nickname process for selecting a new one was a gong show. But it is what it is. And I am glad it is over. The Fighting Hawks is our name and the logo is here to stay. If you don't like it, that's fine. You have the right to your opinion. But just be prepared to get used to it if you live in Grand Forks. The Fighting Hawks name and logo are the official name and symbol of UND. And they should not be afraid to use it. And you don't need to be afraid to accept it.

Don't even think about starting a hockey gameday thread unless you are prepared to feel the wrath of AZSIOUX!!!

This thread is always the best and worst thread to click on throughout the day!!

Call me sexist, but I would rather win a conference title in football and the MBB team make the tournament than the WHKY team winning a National Championship is hockey. I am sure I am not alone.

Starting!!!

Lucky enough to be at the game today!! Boeser wearing #6!!

I get the reason they wanted to put UND v BU as the first game to get a big crowd showcased on ESPN2. But looking at the UMD/Ohio St game.....yikes!! They should try to put the host team in the second game if the make it as much as possibly to avoid crowds like this......

Win the next 5 minutes and get a goal. Then do the same thing the last 5 minutes!!

Games not over yet!! This team has a lot of fight in them. They scored 2 in 5 minutes. So can we!!

When the league went on strike and the Sentinels needed a quarterback, did Shane Falco turn down the opportunity? Hell no!!! And neither should these girls!!