jdub27

So can we move this talk to a fútbol thread instead of football since it seems it would be more accurate there?

Not specifically but I was referencing this: https://www.grandforksherald.com/opinion/letters/4582630-letter-challenge-grant-invests-north-dakotas-future

https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/education/4583296-und-asks-state-match-20-million-business-school Need the legislature to step up and fulfill Burgum's original request for matching funds.

But this incident happened at the SHAC.....which is an NDSU owned facility....so the staffing related issues have something to do with ndsu. And according to the article, the staffing isn't the only issue with the facility in regards to ADA.

D'oh kay. I don't think a first MIP deserves public humiliation so I'm not publicly throwing out names, those happen with college kids. Disorderly conduct for fighting the night of a playoff game is borderline, but whatever. The assistant coach getting a DUI a week or two after he was hired and instead of reporting it, a puff piece was written on him was an interesting editorial decision, but that was a while back and he's gone now anyway. My point is I agree with not publishing every small transgression being the right decision but that the narrative that the Forum actually does that is far from accurate.

Just because they aren't publicly reported doesn't mean it didn't happen and people don't talk. Plus, like it was stated, they are public record, not hard to verify.

I mean, that kind of makes my point if the most recent infractions that come up are 6-7 years old. There has been plenty since then.

It's public record, I'm not throwing a kid's name out there. Wasn't this season, it was last.

True, it is public record, but when's the last time the Forum reported a minor for a football player? There was even a disorderly conduct the night of a playoff game that didn't get a mention. There's been plenty of opportunities over the last few years to report on them and they haven't touched them. I don't personally think a kid's first MIP really reaches the level of "news", and but just pointing out that the days of those being reported in Fargo are long in the past.

Pretty far from the truth, particularly as UND is still in the shadow on the $324 million Spirit campaign and multiple other sizeable donations but maybe the %gobc need to pull their wallets out if there is a big issue. Or are they more of an "all hat, no cattle" kind of group?

The nice thing is people forget about those pesky details after a couple years and everyone moves on like it never happened. Similar to a locker room renovation that had the shortfall bonded due to a shortfall on donations that is still being paid off despite them being renovated again since then.

Delays have nothing to do with Penn State. Waiting on some signatures from the facility so the contract can be finalized with PSU. UND/REA owns the rights to the game, so there isn't a concern about UND not playing in it.

No. They are waiting for some paperwork to be signed so the contracts between the teams can be finalized.

While there is likely some truth to that, Clemson hasn't had any issues discussing the matter on the record.

Just to add on to that, Altru's donation was $10M in total, but $1M went to the turf replacement project at the Alerus Center.

We could but you're the one throwing around the "outlier" comment in regards to NDSU's rate of passing drug tests. So unless you have a good reason to deflect, let's stay on topic.

How many internal tests were taken and failed? And how do we know there weren't other NDSU players that failed NCAA tests?

With how little coverage some of the NDSU cuts go, there isn't anything public to confirm that. However, I've heard a few different people describe certain decisions that way. Time will tell, possibly.

Along with getting a lot less ink for their cuts, some of them and the methods used were questionable and are going to come back to roost if there isn't an uptick in allocated money in the next biennium or two. I don't think they were or are overall in a much different place financially than you're implying (especially if you exclude women's hockey from the athletic department) but they did take different approaches. One is a more sustainable on long-term. The other is better short-term, but rely on recent trends reversing.

If you only knew..... That won't work, the REA Foundation has control of the arena. The soonest they could pull a move like that is 2030/31. And I hope it doesn't come to that, there is a lot to be said with a private party partner is something like the REA. It just needs to work for both sides.

Her comments were future donations, in the terms of capital projects (think HPC Phase II), though I don't know if that includes REA facility upgrades or not. I'd guess since the REA isn't technically "UND's building" then it would be exempt. It would no effect with UND continuing to use the REA and existing agreements. However it is a really poor future indicator of the future of REA come 2030. The ideal scenario (in my mind) is to extend out the lease/turnover date because both parties are seeing significant benefits and it continues to allow the REA do things that UND can't do as freely since they operate as a public institution. However, if UND feels like they are continuing to get the short end, why would they continue the partnership under the current arrangements and work with someone who is continuously publicly criticizing you?

Who has said that? (Hint - The answer is no one, except you) The HPC is cheaper and a much more logical size for a Friday afternoon scrimmage. How much money would be the right amount to spend on it when the money could be put to much better use within the program? I'd love it if they tried to make it an event again at the Alerus, with tailgating and other activities. However that would require them to either change the dates/timings of their practices or have the Alerus turn away a pretty profitable event with Monster Trucks being in town the weekend of the final practice.

After listening to it and her description of the the relationship with the REA and UND (only about a 15 minute interview), I just can't support her position UND pays significant funds as a usage fee, it isn't free.....or even close. In 2017, the REA got $2.4 million in ticket revenues through the usage agreement, expensed an additional $1.1 million to UND for utilities, maintenance staff, phone service and other expenses and also an additional $247K of reimbursement for managing the box office for UND. In return, UND used the REA and got $750K in allocated net income paid back to them. The REA foundation is set up to benefit UND athletics, the "extra" money (that is really just funds leftover after the REA pays expenses and takes their cut for future projects) has nowhere else to go but back to UND. And again, a large portion of that was UND's money to begin with. The usage agreement is set up to be reviewed annually and got a rubber stamp with no changes for over a decade. UND and the athletic department saw a significant cut in their budget, a pain the REA saw none of. Why wouldn't they try to renegotiate one of, if not the, largest line item expense adjusted when it is being paid to a supposed partner. Was it really an anomaly? The articles about how the donation to UNLV was handled seems to contradict that. While I doubt it changes anyone's mind one way or another....it is very interesting to hear the rationale for the feeling of entitlement that KEM feels comes with her family's donation (right, wrong or indifferent). She specifically touches on how donors these days deserve a say but it isn't micromanaging. She also flat out said that there won't be funds going to UND until Kennedy is gone, outside of support in scholarships. So don't look for the Engelstad's name anywhere on Phase II of the HPC....

How many times have you been in the HPC? How many since the new bleachers were installed?

Considering it is a "Spring Wrap-up" and it says all practices are scheduled for the HPC (as no other locations are noted), I think you know the answer. That being said, with the new bleachers installed, it will be a much different and more enjoyable experience to watch practices.