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I suppose you would rather have bright "scream yellow" jerseys instead.

You don't get what I'm saying, so let me try to dumb it down for you... I do comprehend the difference between the people who want to keep nickname/logo because they think it is important and the people who want to keep the nickname/logo because it will hurt UND. However, and this is the part that seems to be going over your head, I don't care. To me, it doesn't matter what your reason is for wanting to keep the nickname/logo, it only matters that you want to keep it. The people who want to keep the nickname/logo because they think it is important and the people who want to keep the nickname/logo because it will hurt UND want the same thing. Who cares if they want it for different reasons? The fact of the matter is that they want what I very much do not want, so essentially they are the same to me. See how that can work?

You're right. They wouldn't even think about bring up UND while celebrating their national champio....errr, never mind.

One, the mess to be over and no longer have to hear about it. Two, stop the wasting of tax dollars. Three and more importantly, voting no just empowers the legistlatures control over the SBoHE and that is not good for anyone, especially UND and NDSU. Voting no isn't watching others dig their own grave, it is joining in.

But NDSU has been better since 1963. Because that is when Bison football started.

Must have at least crossed his mind otherwise I doubt he'd come all the way up here for the spring game.

I know that this is more than you can comprehend, but there are more than the two sides you can see. I won't bother explaining it to you because it has already be done over and over and over again and whether it is by choice or chance, you just don't get it. I just want your assurance when the right thing is done to protect the University that you uphold your promise and not be a fan anymore. Find a new logo/nickname you like since that is what is of most importance to you.

Just a few more questions... Are you a police officer, judge or lawyer? Or are you just going to go with the trued and tried citizen arrest? And are you going to be trying to charge the NCAA administration or every University president in the NCAA who voted and put in place the policy that the administration is enforcing? Do we need to warn Kelley, Faison, Hakstol, Mussman, Kleinsasser, Lennon, O'Keefe, etc. to watch out because they are going to be in trouble? Thanks in advance.

Close but not quite. I support the college regardless of the nickname. Unlike you I will always support the college. You apparently can only support what is secondary in the equation, the nickname. Unfortunately for you, one can survive without the other and you aren't going to like the answer to that one.

Did I miss something? I don't recall any crime let alone a hate crime being committed. It is unfortunate how you can't see how ridiculous you make yourself look with statements like that.

Well you aren't 50, my guess is closer to 20 so why did you pick the last 50 years other than someone had already done the math. Do you need someone to do the math on the series record during your lifetime for you? (hint, you aren't going to like it) Also, I'm not insinuating that NDSU's national championships aren't impressive, they are. But the fact that the time frame for games against UND always needs to be edited is always amusing.

Why is it that NDSU fans are so proud of their history, but when it comes to records against UND, the timeframe is always limited? Are you proud of your history or only part of it? Seems like a lot of cherry picking. Also, I see you decided to parrot your whole response from what other people taught you on bisonville the last day or two.

I would agree with you. But would it have anywhere close to the significance and meaning that it does to anyone on this site if it wasn't related to the University of North Dakota? The answer is no, not even close. There are many pieces of art work/drawings/paintings/etc that are equally as strong and proud as Ben Brien's, but the feelings on his are so strong because of what it is tied to. And that is what is important, what made Brien's artwork so popular, the University of North Dakota. The fact that some can't see past that is absolutely bewildering and borderline ridiculous.

Fully aware, just wanted to see what random direction he went with.

Just curious where the University of North Dakota fits into your equation? You seem to never be concerned on what may happen to them. Can't be coincidence that you fail to mention what will happen to the school...

Figures. Wouldn't expect someone like you to keep your word. Keep grasping at straws, it is over.

Time to stay true to your word Fetch, the lawsuit is tossed. Like it or not, it is time to move on.

You understand that UND is a VOLUNTARY member of an organization that allows its member to vote on its policies right? UND had a vote on this, but were outvoted to institute the policy on Native American imagery. The NCAA isn't a couple of guys sitting in offices in Indianapolis making up rules as they go, it is made up of member schools and all of these schools decide the rules. Dave has already claimed this is similar to murder, you probably should quit planting ideas in his head...

I will second this. Great area and great people. Looking forward to going down there again in February.

I was thinking NORTH in one end zone and DAKOTA in the other but North Dakota in both is fine. I also assumed Alerus Center logos would be opposite the Big Sky logos on the 25 with the interlocking ND on the 50. I'm wondering if they don't have the capabilities to add the midfield logo after the fact, though it might look funny with the Alerus Center logos there. The center of the field looks bare.

As always, follow the money or in this case, take a game to where the money is.

NDSU athletics had no problem dropping their 20+ year partnership with Innovis for the money. A few years earlier than the contract called for if I recall correctly. Those donations don't come without strings and it is up to the individual school to decide if they are worth it.

What crime is it that the NCAA is committing? How many times do you need to be told that they are a private organization in which the member institutions make the rules (one of which is UND)? Their game, their rules. Just because you don't like something or you think it isn't fair doesn't make it a crime.

Good weather will be key. Good chance of rain in the morning, hopefully it clears up before noon and people come out.