jdub27

Do you get bonus points for that? Or is a win still a win?

That's actually pretty funny since you were the one saying that there was absolutely zero possible way UND would be joining the Summit/MVFC while others (myself included) were telling you conversations had been going on for quite a while and it was going to happen sooner than later. Yet you still refused to believe it because you were convinced the other Dakota schools were joining the Big Sky to then move on to the WAC. Considering how accurate it has been lately, you might want to get it re-calibrated. It would take a shake-up at the P5/G5 level for something to be considered and a move at that point would be completely different than what you have been predicting for years now. There isn't enough benefit for the costs as it sits at this point. People haven't argued with the "why" UND can't go FBS, people have poked holes in your theories because they don't make sense, are presented as fact but based on pure speculation and the benefits aren't there. I've never once said it is impossible, though I've said it's illogical as things sit today. And exactly what exposure are those schools getting? I mean Coastal Carolina is absolutely killing it at the bottom of the Sunbelt with a whopping 2 wins on the year. When? Because as nice as it would be, those schools have no desire or benefit from looking that far east as things sit now.

That isn't a coincidence, largely due to some overlap in the people posting the theories.

I bet you'll see some overlap with the same theories you see here....

The MVFC and Big Sky challenge had nothing to do with the conferences other than them slapping their names on it after the fact. The games had been scheduled years before they came up with the "challenge". It's possible that the Summit and Big Sky leadership helped out a little bit with the basketball challenge, but.......why would these conferences support something that is supposedly a start to the end of one or both of them? Seems pretty asinine for the Big Sky and Summit to put their stamp of approval that would lead to their core schools in their conferences leaving. Now you understand how people feel when you put something down that looks like potato + apple = duck. I'm fully aware of the differences in the comparison and was making a point with my comparison. However if you substitute "guaranteed home games for teams that struggle to get them" for "major TV bucks", then the theory behind the challenges actually aren't all that different. The challenge has absolutely been blessed by the conference offices. Releases were sent out by both offices (links even provided below, try it sometime) and multiple public positive comments have been made by commissioners. To claim that it isn't supported is a flat out lie. http://www.valley-football.org/news/2017/8/14/football-mvfc-big-sky-announce-challenge-series.aspx http://bigskyconf.com/news/2017/8/14/big-sky-and-missouri-valley-football-announce-challenge-series.aspx Again, you present your theories as facts and refuse to take any criticism of that presentation, even when people who have more knowledge of situations than you explain why you are wrong. UND moving to the Summit/MVFC, which you claimed would never happen because the Big Sky was merging with the WAC, is a perfect example, even after people who knew it was in the works told you so. Creating a one-sport conference is not the same as creating an all-sports conference, particularly when auto-bids are concerned and would be absolutely necessary for almost every sport. Denver's reasons leaving the WAC were because the league completely turned over from when they joined to when they left outside of probably NMSU, and that wasn't for lack of trying. Denver already has what they need in the Summit: no requirement to add core sports and an autobid for what they have. I do want to state that I'm fully in support of a new conference that would include the Dakotas, Omaha, Denver, the Montanas, Idaho and then one or two other schools to get to the right numbers. However I also understand that the probability of it under the current NCAA model (P5/G5/FCS) mean it is very unlikely to happen, particularly because there is no real benefit to the western schools to take part in it.

But it's so much more fun to fly off the handle!! Team seemed disinterested in the game and coach was trying multiple different rotations, which is what games like this are for. Seales played a whopping 3 minutes. Hopefully it is out of their system because the next 4 games are the real deal: @Creighton, NDSU, @SDSU, @Gonzaga. Free throws should regress back to the mean at some point. Hopefully sooner than later. Geno and Avants* didn't have other D-1 offers either. Nor did guys like Troy Huff, Jamal Webb or Lenny Antwi. *Avants did have an Air Force offer but service academies are a whole different animal. He's got a lot of rust to knock off but he's been one of the two best rebounders for UND so far. He's also learning a new system on the fly.

They only possible that UND could 7-5 would be to make the playoffs at 7-4 and then lose in the first round of the playoffs. I don't think he's getting a ticker-tape parade for that. However we'd be arguing about another loss in the first game played in the playoffs and whether Bubba could win a meaningful game, which I guess would be an improvement over where we currently are.... You're not buying that the most recent news stories are the ones that show up on the top and when UND posts its game day stories early in the day they get bumped down when new stories get published? OK.....

The ACC and B1G play a basketball challenge somewhat similar to this as do the Big 12 and SEC, I suppose those conferences are merging in some fashion as well? Those Big Sky teams have no real benefit in looking east and therefore no desire in doing so. This is a helpful scheduling alliance that gets some guaranteed home games for teams that have some issues getting them due to location. The conferences helped facilitate it and at least they did a bit of work unlike the MVFC/Big Sky challenge that they decided to latch onto after the games were scheduled, though that idea was probably a small catalyst for this.

Because it would have eaten up over 20% of the total raised and provided next to nothing in return. It's frustrating and frightening how dense some people allow themselves to be in public and even more so to think about what kind of thoughts they actually filter out and don't put out for all to see.

This is a pretty serious accusation and for the record, far from anything I've heard. If Bubba had serious concerns about players on the team, he doesn't need to go to the AD to handle them. I also don't see a scenario where they are "treading water" for another 2 months until a new AD is hired. He's responsible for his locker room.

Probably would have been easier if he could have focused on just his guy instead of that plus the extra option or two coming at him. Wasn't the kind of defenseman who had the agility to take on odd man rushes multiple times a game, he was built to completely handle his own responsibility and take his own guy out of the play. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Jones admitting to having quite a bit of rust he was trying to knock off while trying to learn a new system. If he can get his shot going, he will have a great year. If not, he'll continue to put his effort towards rebounding, he needs to help out down there because of the lack of size on the court. They are aware that they can't have the starts they are having and are really pushing to get that fixed by the time conference play rolls around. Hopefully they can get the pieces in place.

Is he trying to figure out why he's defending an odd man break by himself again?

Yeah, but how many Olympians can they claim???

I would think it is pretty obvious he'll redshirt at this point. There isn't going to be enough minutes to make it worthwhile. Geno is playing 36+ a night. Stewart and Seales are going to be 30+. That leaves 24 minutes or spread between Kinsey, Brown and I guess Buchanan. If you want to add in the 4 spot, you might be able to take a few minutes from there after the majority go to Jones and probably McCauley. Not sure why the decision was made between Buchanan over Moody but when it is for limited minutes, it isn't always a choice made based on talent.

Maybe they came to a mutual decision that him red-shirting was the best overall decision. You have some odd fascination writing everyone off as a transfer and being hypercritical of all decisions made. Unless you are in the gym everyday, I'm not sure where your knowledge comes from....

You're right, he did only bring up one team, that was my mistake. For whatever reason I thought he had put a couple in there, Georgia Southern would be another obvious example, especially considering they have struggled even more than App State. I don't believe that a current top FCS team could move up and be above .500 in the P5 and especially the SEC. While they are adding 22 additional scholarships, those scholarships would be spread out among they players they already have (FCS currently allows 63 scholarships to be spread out over 85 players), so I don't think the increase in talent is as significant as others do. However, you likely would have better depth as you can add guys that require a full scholarship instead of a half. Maybe after a while, they could catch up on talent, but it would not be immediate and sustained success would take even longer. I think looking at how App State and Georgia Southern, two former FCS powers, have done in the Sun Belt and then looking at the difference between the Sun Belt and the SEC, the answer becomes somewhat clear.

You said that a top FCS team moving up could compete in a P5 conference. He brought up multiple top FCS teams that moved up and are struggling to compete at the G5 level, which have the same scholarship situation as the P5. If they are struggling at the G5 level, how are they going to go above .500 at the P5 level? You asked why he left out Boise St. like they were some sort of success story (which they are at the G5 level) when all he was doing is pointing out recent move-ups struggling at the level below where you think they could be above .500 most years. I do agree that there are no (recent) examples of schools going to P5, but there are plenty of examples that are struggling at the G5 level and very few that you could point to as successful. Knowing that, I think it's a stretch to say that a move-up could be above .500 in a P5 school most years, which was your initial claim.

Under the current rules, once you play in a non-exhibition game, your redshirt is pulled. Barring injury, I would guess anyone who hasn't played to date is red-shirting and Moody is the only one who hasn't played.

When did the Mountain West become a P5 conference?

Unless the conference is paying for them (they aren't), then I think it's irrelevant what other schools do. Comparing what is done with other programs at UND makes more sense. For the record, I lean towards the thinking that they should have got rings however, I haven't heard the actual reasons on why they did or didn't outside of some theories presented on this board. If I had to guess, it's budget cuts, but that's just my guess.

Did the hockey team get them the years they won the WCHA/NCHC?

At least we can read yours posts knowing that you have some personal bias and that your information is not coming from a neutral source. Knowing where you are getting your information from, I think you're accusations against the staff is going a little far. I doubt you are getting the amount of information they are. They have yet to make a decision that looking back, seems overzealous. That being said, I agree with the end of your last sentence. It is going to be a long offseaon with the (somewhat) understandable negative energy that a 3-8 season comes with, especially with the expectations there were for this season.

Very doubtful considering UND opens the season against MVSU.

In reality, only 3 years since he was hired a little over a month before his first signing day and you aren't exactly getting the pick of the litter when you get into the game that late. So "his" guys are RS-Sophs and younger right now with a few being juniors. While it's true, that is where your depth comes from, relying on a few of them to provide it is different than having over half of your starting roster being occupied by "depth" guys.