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Just let him think there was. When this "scheduling philosophy" falls apart, just lie.

Costa Vida and their incredible sweet pork is the best of them all. Illegal Pete's is a very close 2nd.

But what is the opinion of REAL lawyer?!?!

Anyone else find it a little funny that there is a group of people who are saying the NCAA won't overstep their bounds or care about little ol UND? Yet these same people were calling out the NCAA in 2005 for overstepping its bounds and punishing UND.

Let me answer this one before Gothmog has a chance to post... I believe the response would be: "Really, that's all they have to do? I'm thinking that they'll have to score more points than the other team. In any case, you're talking about getting turnovers against a team that is as good at getting turnovers as anyone. If that's the best shot you've got to beat NDSU, you don't have much of a shot."

Which means you refer to the original agreement for that. And the original agreement says UND must transition to a NEW nickname.

No we can't and there's $200,000 in UND's bank account this year because of it.

Miller reporting de Rouen and Tyler not on the team.

I attend mostly road games and a majority of the cheers I hear are Fighting Sioux related. I think one of the reasons the hockey team has adopted the Sioux name more than other teams is in part due to the fans. When at a DU/UND game in Denver, it's half UND fans and cheer loudly for the Sioux. When at a UNC/UND football or basketball game it's a sporadic crowd so you don't get those massive cheers going. No sport has seen the type of fan presence on the road that hockey has over the past decade.

But those in favor of a nickname won't be doing a 180 if Fighting Sioux becomes usable again. We believe und should have a nickname. Obviously, we have preferences but we still want a name. Many of the no nicknamers continue to speak of the uniqueness of not having a name and how that is a noble cause. However, they would drop that stance in a heartbeat if FS was on the table.

If only NDSU had any sort of big donation that we could compare. On an unrelated note, hows that BSA renovation going now that we are 10 years after fundraising started?

Ah yes, the heat was just too much for all the diehards. I know if it's more than 81 degrees, I wouldn't go outside to rally for something allegedly really important to me.

A week ago, people were wondering why we had no verbals.

Haha, Zing!

Thanks for the thought out post. Good discussion is rare here. I actually wish there was a legit voting between no nickname and picking any name. Every one is throwing out numbers that have no basis in fact. I get that the no nickname fans are a potentially fickle crowd in that some would stop supporting a whole university over the choosing of a new nickname. How many of them will stay away if und wins a couple national championships? The moratorium on picking a name has really just created a bigger divide among fans than before.

You assume all exposure for not having a nickname will be positive. Here in Colorado, plenty of people have asked why a bunch of hicks from North Dakota don't have a name.

Ermine is unique too, doesn't make it good.

Why not? It's the logical (and very admitted) reasoning behind why so many people don't want a new nickname.

I'm curious how big the outcry would be if Kelley removed Rough Riders from the list before a vote.

The copyright issue has nothing to do with it. The best chance for the nickname crowd to prove their point is by distancing themselves from the Fighting Sioux Forever folks. Otherwise, it just looks like they want to unofficially be FS, which is why the committee got rid of it in the first place.

Of course the announcers will all be the same in 10 years for the Frozen Four so they won't have any need to mention the lack of a nickname to the viewers. UND is such a well known shool throughout the nation that nobody will think it's weird or wonder why UND is the only school in D1 without a nickname. Just keep thinking that will be the case.

How many teams are in the ncaa? How many broadcast crews will do und games each year? You can bet the teams UND plays and the announcer teams will continue to change.

There will eventually be an end to the questions about the new nickname. There would never be an end if und didn't pick a name.

Also Jim, I propose people are no longer allowed to use nicknames on here and must instead use only their real names. I've been shown the light and clearly having a nickname is the worst thing in the world other than a one direction concert.

In no particular order: Marketing of apparel, less focus on the school with no nickname and more on the game, moving past the Fighting Sioux name, allows the school to control how the teams are referred to by the media, less confusion between und and ndsu across the country, not having to go through this asinine process in 5-10 years when the new president demands a nickname, being 100% guaranteed of compliance with the ncaa. There are at least Two reasons for you which have an impact on the school's finances, which would mean the ability to better fund some teams which could lead to an increase in quality of teams. I would like to hear your variety of reasons as to why not having a nickname would benefit the University.