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Beats me.

Depends on how much UND gets for the land sales. Negotiations have involved the family, to some extent, but mostly the group that's been privately keeping MG afloat the past 2 seasons.

This may need a different thread: http://blogs.und.edu/und-today/2018/06/ray-richards-legacy-endures/

I'm ok with TB leaving if his heart's somewhere else. He was talented in spurts but was sometimes erratic with the ball and mistake prone. He came off the bench to spell Geno for a few minutes each game. He may have developed into a more reliable talent for UND had he stuck it out but we'll never know. Best of luck to him and his future!

SDSU Jacks for one. But, yeah, maybe we can get the Herald boys on it. Is Aaron Anderson looking at coaching?

Fair points, for sure. I ran into Chaves the other day and he was saying how when EWU came into the Alerus Center last year without Gubrud and a couple other star players, their coach simply adjusted the game plan to more of a game manager mode with the assumption that they were going to have to eke out a win. The score was 21-14 EWU. I was feeling better about UND after that game until I heard that. Ouch.

Yeah, just think how bad it would have been had we not had our best QB in there, and best inside backers and best secondary guys. er... wait. I know, I know excuses (actually agree with you on the excuses are useless part...doesn't make it suck any less, tho. )

We'd all need to have your diligence, acumen and interpretive talents to get the job done, tho.

Actually, I think LkvlleUNDFan did a nice job of helping many on this board understand that there are things beyond the coaching staff's control when it comes to players' decisions. His/her post, I think, actually will help many move on from Grady and quit bringing him up, which gets us closer to what most of us want anyway.

Argggh... that schtuff just boils my blood. Can't fix stupid or laziness, I guess.

They will still refer to us as "North Dakota State" or the "Bison" but I get your greater point.

It will be "North Dakota" at center court at the Betty, as has been mentioned on here by others already. But that was a side issue, and not the main issue of the most recent meeting. Of greater concern were the contractual arrangements (that JDub27 has done a nice job elaborating on) between UND and REA. The outcome on those discussions will be harder to discern and sort out by those of us scoring at home.

^^^^^^^ I nominate for post of the week. Too funny.

Agreed. Need to build depth and stay healthy. Football is the most watched college sport in the country. It would be huge for UND to get back to our strong tradition of success on the grid iron.

"They" aren't complaining. Some fans of UND are arguing for more love for a program whose growth potential is enormous. "They" admire the tradition of success of MH and aspire to emulate it, per Bubba's own words.

Touché. That was boneheaded on my part. Sorry about that.

Coaches, working with AD financial analysts (and alumni) got 'er done. Got rolling under BF, completed under Chaves.

Argggh... I thought I had a good line of logic going there... Disregard. I think Troy, Mich. threw me off. Thanks!

Or the hockey players (I kid, I kid).... sorry wrong thread. I say don't purposely limit your recruiting base because of some bad apples. Like when the Gophs made a big deal of going all-Minnesota and won zilch; then turned around and let two Grand Forks kids in and voila, or something like that. A million-plus metro two hours north of Forks should not be ignored in any of our sports programs.

One certain one just sorta pops!

You can still love something and state uncomfortable facts.

Well put.

How about start by just being a UND fan and not differentiate between programs.

As long as the royalties come back to UND— then WGAF?

This silo approach to funding athletics you speak of is a weird way to run a ship. I think the disconnect is that most of us on here see the Athletic Department as a single entity made up of individual programs -- some big and some small -- very few lucrative and most hemorrhaging cash. What many of us don't see and what we don't believe in is an everyone-for-themselves approach. That kind of mindset may be awesome for the lucrative program(s) but does nothing to move the needle forward for the Athletic Department as a whole, and by extension, the University. This is especially true when your power program is a niche program followed mostly by a vast minority of folks in nine or 10 states on the U.S. northern tier. It's like Johns Hopkins lacrosse rolling off umpteen national championships in a row -- if a tree falls in the forest and no one's there to .... Oh hell, you get the point. EDIT: My point is that many of us who tend to argue your points aren't satisfied with JUST the hockey team doing well. We want the hockey team and as many other programs as possible to do well, especially in sports that will garner more press nationally, such as football and basketball. Look at how Loyola Chicago blew up in this year's Big Dance.