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They did just as much if not more. The UND PR machine back then is the same one that exists now.

And that's different than any university or corporation in America how? Whenever Bresciani steps in it down at NDSU, and he's done it a lot.... you don't see him doing the dirty work. Sadly this is the status quo.

You want him to stay? Talk about damned if you do; damned if you don't.

I love this thread! It's like Iraq following 9-11: it keeps the terrorists occupied and isolated in one place. I have not read a word of this thread ( ok maybe I peeked), but it sure keeps all the other threads clean. And I really like that!

Dom was referring to an issue at UW. The Badgers apparently have had to abandon some recruits because of some tampering by overzealous fans.

I noticed a lot of our offensive linemen are listed well over 300 pounds, too.

Current roster has him listed 15 pounds heavier than last year. Maybe it's muscle.

Yeah, and the NHL playoffs aren't a one loss an done scenario like the NCAA tourney is. Before we get ahead of ourselves, lets give Hak some time to get the Flyers re-tooled for a potential playoff run before we even broach the subject of the Flyers in the playoffs. But back to the point, me thinks Hak could have retooled his UND teams enough to win a few Natties if the NCAA tourney was a best of three situation with the opportunity to make adjustments from game to game like they do in the NHL. Whew. I'm done.

You'da man!!!! Thanks! I really like his quickness. Once he puts on some meat, look out. He had a tweet a couple weeks about the new UND helmets,so I would think he's still on board.

What about Poole? No longer listed on Wiki.

Thanks! I had sent you a PM about it a few weeks ago but hadn't heard anything. Really appeciate the work you do keeping us updated.

Is there any reason why Matilus has yet to be added to the Wiki recruiting page? Is it still iffy or what?

I agree in hindsight. But it seemed prudent at the time by those, who were in charge and who would have to answer for it if things went badly, to be more cautious. Different time, different priorities.

Who gives a crap what others are going to do with any of our potential new nicknames? If that is one of our overriding concerns, we've got thinner skin than I thought we did. It's not like our beloved Fighting Sioux nickname was immune from other fan bases twisting and morphing it into derrogatory and pejorative forms and phrases, and somehow we all got by ok.

It's always dangerous to dredge up the past, but here goes: there were reasons SU was able to "afford" to make the move, and why UND felt it could not. UND's administration, at the time, did not want to rape academics and low-ball faculty hires (by using GTAs) and engage in other shell games that Chapman was so adept at back in the day to make it work. Now, as history shows us, if you" just win baby," the public is willing to look the other way and let that stuff slide -- so we probably could have/should have done it. I am sure there are many in our own fan base that would have been ok with UND getting "creative" with the books to get a jumpstart on a transition, but at the time, for good or for bad, Kupchella and the boys (no female VPs at the time) didn't want to go down that path. Sometimes I think that we lose sight on here that these administrators are trying to run an entire university and are not exclusively fixated on athletics like we are. EDIT: Every time I wheel this out someone always pipes up and asks -- "what changed for UND, then?" I will try to get out ahead of that one this time by simply saying that the total and utter collapse of the NCC is what shifted the entire paradigm and forced UND to make the leap.

fs4l, is correct. It was two completely different scenarios. When you have a program that is rolling on all eight cylinders (albeit no recent natty) and you have a highly, if not overqualified heir apparent, North Dakota law permits you to hire immediately instead of having to wait the 30 days, or whatever, for the external HR process to play out. As for Bubba Schweigert's hiring, as we know, the football program did not have the internal candiate waiting in the wings, thus the need for the long, public hiring process. NDSU was able to do things the quick way with its recent football and basketball transitions because it felt it had the right guys already on staff.

I'm glad you took it in the right spirit!

I've never understood some folks' obsession with Jesus' crucifixion site as a potential nickname.

She may have been supplying reasons but it also sounded an awful lot like she was dissuading the group from going down that road (admittedly, even after Charging Nakota had already been accepted). My problem with GC's interpretation of the NCAA settlement with UND is that there are other NCAA institutions that use nicknames/words that derive directly from N.A. culture and language. i.e. University of Alaska-Fairbanks Nanooks (Inuit word for polar bear), UCONN Huskies (Inuit word for dogs kept by the Inuit people), University of Maryland Terrapins (Algonquin word for a type of turtle), and University of South Dakota Coyotes (Nahuatl root word for an animal that is prominent in N.A. folklore. The Nahua people are descendants of Azetcs in central Mexico.), University of Tennessee, Chattanooga Mocs (shortened from from the word moccasins) etc. I could go on. It would seem GC is just doing her job, but IMHO, she is being too hypersensitive to the terms of the NCAA settlement regarding use of NCAA imagery in a nickname. Maybe the thought is that, as has been shown before, because we decided to fight the NCAA, the rules are different for UND.

They are looking into that right now. That's what Lowell and the committee asked the consultant to look into. Lowell was very confused why one would make it and the other did not. I agree with Lowell. We shall see what they decide.

You are correct. I was at the meetings and McDonald was a little lost at first as to what Lowell was asking about.... McDonald thought he was asking about the tribe known as "Nakota," (mostly in Montana, with some small bands in western North Dakota), when in fact, Lowell was referring to "Nokota," the feral horse in western North Dakota. It seemed like McDonald had no idea what a "Nokota" was and it was the first time he had actually heard it mentioned. McDonald was listening in via teleconference, so maybe there was some technological reasons for the misunderstanding. It was UND's general counsel who was most adament that Nokota was too closely aligned with N.A. culture. Lowell disagreed vehemently, and I tend to agree with Lowell. General Counsel is interpreting things much too broadly here IMHO.

Here's hoping commits stay committed and returners don't change their minds.

Best to Hak!

Dropped out, huh? Bummer. ?

This must be your first time on SiouxSports, then. Wow! You've been busy today-- over 200 posts!!!!