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I wonder if Best Buy took the time to explain that stealing TV's was illegal or if one is just supposed to know better?

Thanks for the update Bambino. Good news on Hanson. Possible return next week?? Also, I'm still surprised by Galloday. I know he has talent but with McGill and Hardin just both being consistent. The return of Ivery this week and Jackson bringing as physical style of play as there is at WR, were does Galloday fit in. I am looking forward to seeing him play cause he has to be something pretty special to be getting his shirt pulled.

It was more an answer to your question. Why is there complete threads on your team fan board about everything UND? This item though actually has an affect on the state of ND. Two items won't be put to vote due to the actions of a group of people who were hired to do a job, 8 of those people were NDSU football players. I also answered your question as to what got me riled up. When fans of your team tried to drag UND into this or actually placed blame on them. If there was sarcasm involved with their comments I didn't see it. Also, Bison fans still drag Kristo into every conversation they have when a NDSU athlete gets in trouble. Trying to use an incident from 2 years ago to justify your players making the paper, which by the way has happened 3 times already in the last 3 months. Thats a pretty good average.

Your right, I'm guessing there would be absolutely zero posts on this on Bisonville if the schools were reversed. I got angry when some posters on your board drug UND into it-either by saying it was a conspiracy or bringing up incidents at UND from 2-3 years back to try and justify this. Hell even Johnnyboy tried to drag Ralph into it to try to make a comparison. I know what to expect if I posted anything on Bville but the above opened the door for me to post about it here.

I'm gonna put my glasses on and say we win by 4. UND-24 Portland St.-20 This will be a great measuring stick for our team and there is nothing wrong with facing a little bit of adversity already in the season with an injured QB and down one O-lineman. The D has to play big. Portland St. is going to try and establish the run and we have to limit that. We may have to leave our corners out on an island again like we did last year against Cal Poly, they have to be up to the challenge. The offense also has to move the ball. Three and out after three and out like last year is not going to cut it. I've been looking forward to this game to see how much we have improved from last year. Its going to be fun.

Don't pretend he would be easily replaceable. He's a proven 1000 yard back with a ton of talent. There is a reason he is still around after hitting his limit in strikes. Even though his troubles have been kept pretty quiet, I live in Fargo and they are not big of a secret.

Have charges been filed vs. Jimison??

The thing you are overlooking is your head coach just released a backup player coming off of hip surgery a couple weeks ago before he was ever charged with anything, much less convicted. Do you understand how it looks to someone who isn't blinded by green and gold glasses? Backup who will see the field in special teams and has no prior incidents- don't let the process play out. Starters (which includes possibly 2 All-Americans one of which is on strike 5)- we better let the process play out before reacting. I understand that they are two different situations but Jemison may not even go to court or have to have a plea deal, more than likely these 8 are going to face something.

They like to take the wait and see for starting players. Backups coming off of hip surgery its ok to take the guilty until proven innocent approach.

And you are assuming a punishment is going to happen. Bohl has set his precedent in the past that a DUI for a contributing player is only a one game suspension (removal from the team if its a backup who will never see the field but according to Bison06 he has always been very consistent with his punishments). By your own admission a DUI is much worse than this so why are you so sure a punishment is going to happen? I wouldn't be so quick to call anyone an idiot right now cause I don't see anything happening during this season and if you feel a punishment during spring ball is sending a strong enough message to 4 players who are already starting this year than I question who is the idiot.

Have you spent any time on your own fan board or have you been too busy here to read the posts by some about this being UND fault or those dragging UND past into the conversation? Regarding suspensions, I'll wait unil they actually happen before I gve you a high five and tell you that you were right. If I were a betting man it either won't be this year or in a game that matters.

Please do. And we'll be sure to save all the posts of finger pointing at UND, not putting any of this responsibility on the players, going back 2+ years to find examples of something happening at UND similar to this and the comments by your coach and AD that this isn't that big of a deal. Instead of worrying about how UND would handle this, if I was a former ndsu player such as yourself, I would worry about my program and the players on my team. Also, when a UND player gets in trouble again, and we all know it will happen. You don't have to worry about saving anything because there will be 15 threads started about it on Bisonville. Just like this story, it always has something to do with UND. Edit: Also Shamen was still a starter, Johnson was still a stud and this was prior to Best Buy and the details on the others are accurate but maybe this was the one time Bohl wasn't consistent with his punishments.

The situation and the players I described did not happen at UND. It was how Bohl handled his DUI incidents. Starting WR Shamen Washington suspended 1 game. DE with a ton of potential Garret Johnson suspended 1 game. The qb everyone wanted to name starter at the time who also had a couple previous minors Jose Mohler suspended 2 games. Backup QB Troy Jackson who everyone knew wasn't going to see the field, released from the team. I am basing my opinion on how Bohl is handling this to how he has handled past occurances.

I'm happy that the UND coaching staff has always been consistent with their punishments to players regardless if they are a starter, a backup, just coming off hip surgery, etc. Based on Mussman's past it wouldn't matter if lets say the starting qb, starting wr, backup de with potential or backup qb all committed the same offense, they would all be treated and punished the same.

I'm hoping the fact that it is a short week and everything being shut down on Monday has a lot to do with the student ticket situation this week. Hopefully things pick up today and tomorrow. Its going to be an entertaining game.

Bohl is letting 8 situations play out right now and didn't let one play out 2 weeks ago. Inconsistencies. And stop trying to drag UND into this. Coach Mussman does not have to decide how to handle this situation cause the name of 8 UND football players is not in the paper and all over the news. You are asking a hypothetical question and wanting an answer. We don't know how Mussman would handle this cause he didn't have to have a press conference yesterday to address the issues, Bohl and Taylor did.

Ojuri already got the hammer, worked wonders.

Just my opinion but if someone put my signiture on something without my authorization I would be pretty pissed off and wouldn't think it is not that big of a deal.

I don't have to justify anything. Two weeks ago with your program, punishing a player before he "had his day in court" was just fine. Yesterday, its not. I was responding to your post about not knowing for sure who did what and based on interviews I've heard with the AG, it isn't hard as all they have to do is look at the signiture of who is responsible for each petition.

You hit that one on the head. I think Muss's track record speaks for itself when it comes to discipline and consistency. Pretty black and white.

It shouldn't be to hard to figue out who's petitions had the errors on them if you look at the signiture of the circulator. As the circulator, you are responsible for the petitions you turn it.

I think your incorrect. When the petitions are turned they have the signitures of the circulator that Sic mentioned above. This wasn't the entire team of circulators. It was these individual circulators who had a very high number of "errors" on thier petitions.

Maybe he'll really flex his muscle and sit them during spring ball. If all they get for this is having to run a couple extra crunchers after practice it will raise some eyebrows.

But its not. Craig Bohl had a press conference today to discuss the charges against 8 of his football players from NDSU and Gene Taylor had an interview today to discuss the charges against 8 athletes within his athletic dept. Again, nothing to do with UND or any of their athletes. If you would like to revisit items from the past we can definately compare situations within both programs via PM.

Not UND's deal. Stop trying to drag them into it. Its Gene and Craig's mess and we are seeing exactly how they would deal with it.