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UND Lennon - Lennon 1.0 Saluki Lennon - Lennon 1.1 Mussman - Lennon 1.2 Bubba - Lennon 1.3 Ira - here's your good old boys network

Many here want Lennon 1.3

No, I think we are reacting to the idea that he should be head coach mainly because he is from here. When you have a successful program getting a steady guy with local ties to keep things going can be a great idea (see NDSU). We need a major reboot and need to expand our thinking. If he didn't have any local connection, what about Bubba's record makes you think he can rebuild this program. He was a successful DII coordinator at a successful program, a .500 coach in two DII seasons, and an average DI coordinator at an average DI program. If after a lengthy national search by an AD who many here consider to have it all together this is the best resume we have then I think we are in trouble in more ways than one.

Bubba ran a successful DII defense within a successful DII program and now runs an average DI defense within an average DI program. Add two years of 500 coaching at a DII school and apparently you have the frontrunner for our head coaching opening. Unbelievable.

We aspired to be mediocre this year.

Good for him, but not sure that is what we are looking for. We seem to have a dogshit program right now and I'm not hoping for mediocre.

\ Seems to me that's the desired result.

Other than NAIA success he has a pretty lackluster resume. Lennon, Bubba and him are not lighting it up.

Not saying it's his fault - I get the process - It still drives me nuts. By the way, Faison wrote the criteria in the posting and apparently tailored it to people who aren't applying.

Ira - I don't think anyone here is disparaging the fantastic network of former UND athletes or what they have accomplished (and, I'm proud to say includes family members of mine). It is one of the things that makes many of us proud to be Sioux fans. I wish the athletic department was in more contact with this group. I think what people are complaining about is a process where a "HR" committee has winnowed out what many think is the best candidate, and Bubba has apparently risen to the top of the bunch with what many of us see as a lackluster resume. The only reason he is on the radar at all is that he was at UND as a DII coordinator. I wish our program was so successful that we could seamlessly transition coaches and promote from within, but it has been a train wreck for too long. I love UND guys, but sometimes it is necessary to change direction. Our football program can't afford another 6-7 years of mediocrity. This is a crucial hire and many find UND's process bizarre at best. Sometimes I think people say "good old boys" to describe a process that is confusing and seems to happen behind closed doors by insiders. We are worried that Faison is not thinking outside of the box. There are coaches with a UND connection that would be excellent, but apparently none have applied. I don't think anyone intends this to be a slur on our fine network of alumni.

Don't underestimate the power of the PC crowd at UND. I'm surpirsed that they haven't insisted on "gender balancing".

Couldn't agree more - It's probably been posted, but I would love to know who is on the HR committee and their contact info.

Politically Correct babble. What we don't need is a good old boy from the Lennon era.

I'll be pretty disappointed if we go through this "process" and end up with Bubba - a guy whose head coaching record as a DII coach is average at best and whose current job performance is mediocre. His only success was here 10 years ago as a DII coordinator. We have a rare opportunity to take our program to the next level and apparently have had our "HR" department eliminate the best candidate. It's like we can't stay out of our own way.

I've gone from very optimistic to extremely worried - Something about this process drives me nuts. Now I'm worried that we will end up with Bubba whose head coaching experience is average and who isn't lighting it up in his current job. We need to stop thinking like a small-town operation.

I just don't see Bubba as the guy - we need someone proven at the DI level. His record with Lennon has been mediocre and I'm afraid that's what we would get here - not the disaster that was Muss, but not top level either.

Agree with most of the assessments - however, I think we are ignoring what I think could really bite us in the future. This is the worst team I have ever seen when playing with a 2 or 3 goal lead. It's like the prevent defense X 100. We go into a shell like nobody I have ever seen. But for the grace of God it could have been 3-2 with them having the momentum instead of 4-1. If that would have happened, I feel like the game would have been up for grabs. We see this play game after game. No killer mentality at all.

Because the expectation here is national championships - his two predecessors won them at the rate of 1 every 5-6 years. We are approaching the longest championship drought in UND hockey history. We want to get it done and so far Hak has not. This isn't to say that he hasn't had sucess or had good teams - he just hasn't done what many expect from Sioux hockey.

Bubba ain't the guy - We have a golden opportunity with Pflu - We need to get on track and soon

No, the Sioux Falls game was an embarrassment, this was funny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6cxNR9ML8k

For some of the guys, it's a habit that is about 3 1/2 years in.

Agree - what's frustrating is that some guys haven't learned a lick of basketball sense in the last 4 years.

DeBoer isn't my favorite based on his lack of head coaching experience at a level higher than NAIA and his lack of success with Lennon. However, he was part of the biggest coaching mismatch I have ever seen when he brought his team here to take on Muss and the Sioux.

Couldn't agree more

I'd say disappointing too - not just because of the losses. We have guys who have played here for 4 years and still have no clue what their shot is.