Old Time Hockey Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I am one upset hombre ...... HE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN MORE PLAYING TIME and we wouldn't be having this conversation !!!!! Quitter I beg to differ old geezer hockey guy he knew he wasn't appreciated grrrrrrrrrrrrrr guess you need to change your signature. AG won't be leading us to a damn thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDLeafsGuy Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 guess you need to change your banner. AG won't be leading us to a damn thing! He should have, he could have, he would have! .... had he been given the playing time that he needed. Who knows he may have been our starting goaltender by the end of the season if THEY would have given AG half a chance to prove himself ............. fire ......... Oh yea and my signature line is now UPDATED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richthorpe Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Wasn't he a late signee to begin with...He knew his role was as a back-up... When JPL went down he played ok, but the team as a team was down at that time... What, did he think him and Phil were gonna split time? Go to the OHL, have success...Some people would have killed to have the opportunity that he had... What does this do to affect our recruiting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Time Hockey Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 He should have, he could have, he would have! .... had he been given the playing time that he needed. Who knows he may have been our starting goaltender by the end of the season if THEY would have given AG half a chance to prove himself ............. fire ......... Oh yea and my signature line is now UPDATED "THEY" screw us every year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux-cia Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 "THEY" screw us every year! ..and we LIKE it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDLeafsGuy Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Wasn't he a late signee to begin with...He knew his role was as a back-up... When JPL went down he played ok, but the team as a team was down at that time... What, did he think him and Phil were gonna split time? Go to the OHL, have success...Some people would have killed to have the opportunity that he had... What does this do to affect our recruiting? Opportunity ?? He wasn't given the opportunity ! My guess is that AG probably thought he could outplay JPL for the starting position. Is that not a good thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxdonyms Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Maybe we can get Bachman to transfer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxTupa Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I don't know where he's from, but when you play for an elite team you have to earn your spot in the lineup. You aren't just given one because you were drafted. I don't pretend to know how Hak makes lineup decisions, but I definitely buy into practice performance. It is probably not the same with goalies, however, because as a coach you'd want to ride the hot hand. Right now JPL has let in something like 7 goals in 7 games with 4 shutouts. This ridiculous start will obviously not continue through the year, but right now I don't blame Hak for not playing Grieco. Maybe he would have gotten a game against Wisc or UMD. I'm sorry to see Anthony go, as it would have been nice to have him available. But he probably should be in MJ if he wants guaranteed playing time. Nothing's guaranteed in the WCHA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Time Hockey Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 My guess is that AG probably thought he could outplay JPL for the starting position. Is that not a good thing? Don't think so! We and "THEY" don't like to see outsiders trying to compete with our homegrown talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxhockeyfan11 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 He should have, he could have, he would have! .... had he been given the playing time that he needed. Who knows he may have been our starting goaltender by the end of the season if THEY would have given AG half a chance to prove himself ............. fire ......... Oh yea and my signature line is now UPDATED Sounds like someones gotta a crush on the guy who just bailed from the hockey team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richthorpe Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 My guess is that AG probably thought he could outplay JPL for the starting position. Is that not a good thing? AG can think what he wants, Hak thinks otherwise and Hak has been to 3 straight FF's... I'll take Hak's over AG's thinking, however if Phil goes down AG would have been our #1 right... Of course maybe Walski was outplaying him in practice and he knew the pecking order...Hard to tell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Time Hockey Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Don't think so! We and "THEY" don't like to see outsiders trying to compete with our homegrown talent. Forget I said that. That is the mindset of those jokers at UMTC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxdonyms Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Opportunity ?? He wasn't given the opportunity ! My guess is that AG probably thought he could outplay JPL for the starting position. Is that not a good thing? Starting jobs are determined in practice. Underclassmen have beaten out upperclassmen in the past. Schweitzer/Kvalevog; Parise/Brandt; meanwhile, others have had to wait their turn: Kollar/Goehring. It's a fair process, and great teams are made from guys who can accept their roles, and if your role is backup for that year, getting ready to step in and play when the team needs you, than so be it. Not saying AG left for lack of playing time. Hopefully, that wasn't the issue. The truth of the matter is, some players just don't fit into our program. It's a demanding program, and not everyone is a perfect fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxdonyms Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Sounds like someones gotta a crush on the guy who just bailed from the hockey team Not that there's anything wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDLeafsGuy Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Starting jobs are determined in practice. Underclassmen have beaten out upperclassmen in the past. Schweitzer/Kvalevog; Parise/Brandt; meanwhile, others have had to wait their turn: Kollar/Goehring. It's a fair process, and great teams are made from guys who can accept their roles, and if your role is backup for that year, getting ready to step in and play when the team needs you, than so be it. Not saying AG left for lack of playing time. Hopefully, that wasn't the issue. The truth of the matter is, some players just don't fit into our program. It's a demanding program, and not everyone is a perfect fit. Maybe he needed to be from Grand Forks or Fargo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Time Hockey Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Starting jobs are determined in practice. Underclassmen have beaten out upperclassmen in the past. Schweitzer/Kvalevog; Parise/Brandt; meanwhile, others have had to wait their turn: Kollar/Goehring. It's a fair process, and great teams are made from guys who can accept their roles, and if your role is backup for that year, getting ready to step in and play when the team needs you, than so be it. Not saying AG left for lack of playing time. Hopefully, that wasn't the issue. The truth of the matter is, some players just don't fit into our program. It's a demanding program, and not everyone is a perfect fit. I don't think the reason Schweitzer beat out Toby was because he was practicing better. Toby turned into a major seive in 96-97. Schweitzer got the opportunity to play cause of it and we hung banner #6! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I don't know where he's from, but when you play for an elite team you have to earn your spot in the lineup. You aren't just given one because you were drafted. I don't pretend to know how Hak makes lineup decisions, but I definitely buy into practice performance. It is probably not the same with goalies, however, because as a coach you'd want to ride the hot hand. Right now JPL has let in something like 7 goals in 7 games with 4 shutouts. This ridiculous start will obviously not continue through the year, but right now I don't blame Hak for not playing Grieco. Maybe he would have gotten a game against Wisc or UMD. I'm sorry to see Anthony go, as it would have been nice to have him available. But he probably should be in MJ if he wants guaranteed playing time. Nothing's guaranteed in the WCHA. Nothing is a guarantee in life and he may or maynot get any playing time in the MJ either we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsDoc Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 He should have, he could have, he would have! .... had he been given the playing time that he needed. Who knows he may have been our starting goaltender by the end of the season if THEY would have given AG half a chance to prove himself ............. fire ......... Oh yea and my signature line is now UPDATED You are not GIVEN playing time at this level, you EARN playing time. In his three plus years as HC, Hak has been very consistent on that fact. I trust Hak, I am not at practice. It appears he did not EARN playing time, and instead of fighting through that and growing as a player and a person, he has chosen to leave. Life lesson here, does he grow from this, or become a habitual quitter? Only time will tell. He's 18, I hope a sour friend or relative didn't force this issue on him. I certainly wish him no ill will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDLeafsGuy Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 My guess is that AG probably thought he could outplay JPL for the starting position. Is that not a good thing? AG can think what he wants, Hak thinks otherwise and Hak has been to 3 straight FF's... I'll take Hak's over AG's thinking, however if Phil goes down AG would have been our #1 right... Of course maybe Walski was outplaying him in practice and he knew the pecking order...Hard to tell... Well I am glad you have so much confidence in Walski because I don't and yes it is a long year so why not give AG some playing time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I don't think the reason Schweitzer beat out Toby was because he was practicing better. Toby turned into a major seive in 96-97. Schweitzer got the opportunity to play cause of it and we hung banner #6! That was as great run that season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDLeafsGuy Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 You are not GIVEN playing time at this level, you EARN playing time. In his three plus years as HC, Hak has been very consistent on that fact. I trust Hak, I am not at practice. It appears he did not EARN playing time, and instead of fighting through that and growing as a player and a person, he has chosen to leave. Life lesson here, does he grow from this, or become a habitual quitter? Only time will tell. He's 18, I hope a sour friend or relative didn't force this issue on him. I certainly wish him no ill will. given - earn you are splitting hairs doc ............. how do you know he didn't earn it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Maybe he needed to be from Grand Forks or Fargo Actually Hakstol didn't play Greico because he is Xenophobic. He hates Canadians with a passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux-cia Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Maybe he needed to be from Grand Forks or Fargo Oh, wait, you're serious?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxdonyms Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 given - earn you are splitting hairs doc ............. how do you know he didn't earn it ? How do you know he did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Time Hockey Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Starting jobs are determined in practice. Underclassmen have beaten out upperclassmen in the past. Schweitzer/Kvalevog; Parise/Brandt; meanwhile, others have had to wait their turn: Kollar/Goehring. It's a fair process, and great teams are made from guys who can accept their roles, and if your role is backup for that year, getting ready to step in and play when the team needs you, than so be it. Not saying AG left for lack of playing time. Hopefully, that wasn't the issue. The truth of the matter is, some players just don't fit into our program. It's a demanding program, and not everyone is a perfect fit. Playing time was the case! From the herald article: Grieco's father, Charlie, said it was essential for his son to get playing time as he recovered from a knee injury that he suffered at the end of last season. "He needed some playing time or his skill level would be deteriorating," Charlie said. Daddy seemed to have been calling the shots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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