The Sicatoka Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 The stuff you learn watching TV: 1. The official car of the NCAA this year is the Pontiac. http://www.ncaa.org/releases/miscel...003031401ms.htm 2. Pontiac is named after Pontiac, the Ottawa Indian Chief! 3. Thus, the NCAA has an Indian mascot car at all of its championship events. 4. Thus, by its very own edict, the NCAA and its Indian mascot official car should not be allowed to participate in its own NCAA championship events, or should at least have to drop Pontiac, or leave them at home. An organization based in Indianapolis, Indiana, with Pontiac as the official mascot car, getting "righteous" about Indian names. Now that-thar, that's funny, I don't care who you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Too funny. (Link doesn't work for me.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 Link fixed. Myles Brand driving an Indian mascot car into his "catalyst for social change" championships. ROTFLMFAO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THETRIOUXPER Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I hope someone has pointed this out to the NC$$, by way of a letter of email, or however. These types of inconsistencies are ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 The old Pontiac logo actually used an Indian chief head. The current logo is still a downward pointing arrowhead. (Look at it.) No Indian imagery. Myles Brand, and his sponsor car, must stay home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxtatoo42 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 In 1926, the first Pontiac car is introduced by Oakland. The 'Chief of the Sixes,' a 6-cylinder car, is launched at the 1926 New York Auto Show. Pontiac cars were first produced by the Oakland motor car company in Pontiac, Michigan hence the name, pontiac. Pontiac michigan history states that The first settlers arrived in what is now the City of Pontiac in 1818. Two years later there were enough people there to form a village named after the famous Indian Chief who had made his headquarters in the area only a few years before. vehicle history website city of Pontiac history web page in light of these findings, I too believe that the NCAA needs to ban itself from all NCAA sanctioned events and remove all logo's and mascots from their facilities. OR they could take a step back and realize that this country was first settled by the natives and like it or not, they are still a very large part of our society and some people still choose to honor them with naming things after them, like sports teams, cities, rivers, county's, townships, shopping malls, and things of that nature not to berade or belittle them, but to keep their rich culture and history alive. I am a firm believer in that singling out schools for their native american nicknames is more racist and biased than the names themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 Thanks to ScottM at USCHO pointing out that Pontiac produces a vehicle called Aztek (as in Aztec, the Mexican tribe). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxMD Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 The stuff you learn watching TV: 1. The official car of the NCAA this year is the Pontiac. http://www.ncaa.org/releases/miscel...003031401ms.htm The above link states March, 2003... NCAA Corporate Sponsors - Current Still includes Pontiac... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I'm astounded that the NCAA each year gives a major award named after a man who in 1886 gave a speech in which he was quoted as saying: I suppose I should be ashamed to say that I take the Western view of the Indian. I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe nine out of every ten are, and I shouldn't like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth. Based on this fact, I'd think that the NCAA would have no problem with UND changing its name to Roughriders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 That's just beautiful. Nice find, PCM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGreyAnt41 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I was going to post this exact thing (about Pontiac) a few days ago when I found out that Pontiac is a big sponsor of quite a few bowl games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yekcoh Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Like this? From Wikipedia The Pontiac logo was originally meant to represent an Indian (Native American) arrow-head, and early slang for the vehicle was to call it an Indian (a term still used by some hot rodders and enthusiasts). An Indian/Headdress logo was also used for a while. Alternate slang terms for the marque include Poncho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 As a car enthusiast, the Pontiac Aztek offends me. The damn thing is simply hostile and abusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 As a car enthusiast, the Pontiac Aztek offends me. The damn thing is simply hostile and abusive. Not to mention hideous and unsightly. The car gives an image of the name that brings a bad taste to my mouth... tastes like vomit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakotadan Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 HaHaHaHaHa The N-C-$-$ is so deep in it's own !@$!. I would love to be at a news conference and ask Mr. Brand about all of this. Now that would be some back-talking. I can only imagine the excuses he would come up with. HaHA... Great thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux-cia Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Not to mention hideous and unsightly. The car gives an image of the name that brings a bad taste to my mouth... tastes like vomit. There you go, hurting my feelings with your hostile and abusive remarks about a car named after a great race of people, my ancestors. Now I can never hold my head up proudly and proclaim pride in my ancestory, my children will never know their history, language, culture, and religion I go now into the depths of depression never to see the bright lights of life until the car is renamed 'DA NO NAME'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyMom Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 *snickers silently in the corner of this thread* Okay, anyone that knows me, knows I am in the center of the room howling laughing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamKracker Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Not to mention hideous and unsightly. The car gives an image of the name that brings a bad taste to my mouth... tastes like vomit. Does it just make you wanna "RRRRRAAAAALLLLLPPPPHHHH"? lolol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Does it just make you wanna "RRRRRAAAAALLLLLPPPPHHHH"? lolol If only your jokes were funny or original. Unfortunately they are all just pathetic derivations of the exact same thing. You should really try diversifying if you want to be successful. In the meantime though don't quit your day job of public whining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxPride0303 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Does it just make you wanna "RRRRRAAAAALLLLLPPPPHHHH"? lolol That was awesome...very worthy of a post Good grief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamKracker Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Wow, now I know y'all are getting desperate!! You should raid their cabinets, I bet you'll find Land-O-lakes brand food and calumet baking powder. That'll make them racists for sure. As for the Aztecs, well I can't really comment on them because were assimilated/beaten/raped/conquered 100's of years ago by the Spanish, heck I don't even know one person who can speak Aztec and I know many many natives. But desperate times call for desperate measures. Vent people vent, get it all out!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 UND is winning. See UND has the law on their side. You seem to be the one getting desperate. But hey you can keep ignoring these things if it makes you feel better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamKracker Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 UND is winning. See UND has the law on their side. You seem to be the one getting desperate. But hey you can keep ignoring these things if it makes you feel better. Getting desperate? lol, Diggler I have not yet begun to fight. As for "ignoring things", has anyone told you the INDIANS that you HONOR don't want you to HONOR THEM ANYMORE? I don't know, maybe no one has informed you of that simple fact. Talk about ignoring....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 You keep repeating the same things over and over again. You can't even let a joking thread happen. Instead you just need to say how horrible it is and how this and how that. Everyone in this thread was just making jokes but you had to take it oh so seriously. You are all knowing and speak for everyone who is right. Anyone who dares disagree with the word of GK is either a racist, stupid or ignorant. We get it, you don't need to keep saying it. Screw it. You don't even come here to make new points anymore. You just come here to try to annoy people. I really don't care any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakotadan Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Does it just make you wanna "RRRRRAAAAALLLLLPPPPHHHH"? lolol Wow, now I know y'all are getting desperate!! I believe it is you that is getting desperate. The fact is you are always on here complaining but never have a foot to stand on. You have made it perfectly clear that your problem is that giant rich-white-guy chip on your shoulder. That must be a heavy burden to carry around every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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