NDSU @ UND 11/8/25

[Sioux>Bison]

22 minutes ago, ND11 said:

You think NDSU has a weak O and D Line?   Assuming you’re just stating they didn’t have their best game yesterday.  

I wasn’t impressed with the Bison O line. Made UND’s d line look like an all conference group…..

[bubbaball69]

If they OC desk isn't empty by Noon today, I think we have a serious problem with the program. The defense wasn't perfect but they did enough where we should have won by 10 points. I get he didn't miss the kick which is a whole other thing. But he did call for 3 passes at the 3, with first and goal. Had Jerry in the gun at 4 and inches and then decided to have Jerry throw deep when a short out route would have been fine. Again with not running it to the edges wtf is with all the up the gut runs you have one of the best rb in FCS and you run him up the gut hes shifty and fast get him on the edges to be 1v1 the lbs and cbs. This is the last straw you have to make changes he is detrimental to our team at this point, I heard Bemidji might be looking for a new OC would be a better fit at then this level of football.

[Irish]

19 minutes ago, bubbaball69 said:

If they OC desk isn't empty by Noon today, I think we have a serious problem with the program. The defense wasn't perfect but they did enough where we should have won by 10 points. I get he didn't miss the kick which is a whole other thing. But he did call for 3 passes at the 3, with first and goal. Had Jerry in the gun at 4 and inches and then decided to have Jerry throw deep when a short out route would have been fine. Again with not running it to the edges wtf is with all the up the gut runs you have one of the best rb in FCS and you run him up the gut hes shifty and fast get him on the edges to be 1v1 the lbs and cbs. This is the last straw you have to make changes he is detrimental to our team at this point, I heard Bemidji might be looking for a new OC would be a better fit at then this level of football.

After a night's sleep this loss burns even more - How many games can our OC lose for us?   Coaching malpractice.  I thought our in-game decisions would be much better this year but I was wrong.  

[gfhockey]

27 minutes ago, bubbaball69 said:

If they OC desk isn't empty by Noon today, I think we have a serious problem with the program. The defense wasn't perfect but they did enough where we should have won by 10 points. I get he didn't miss the kick which is a whole other thing. But he did call for 3 passes at the 3, with first and goal. Had Jerry in the gun at 4 and inches and then decided to have Jerry throw deep when a short out route would have been fine. Again with not running it to the edges wtf is with all the up the gut runs you have one of the best rb in FCS and you run him up the gut hes shifty and fast get him on the edges to be 1v1 the lbs and cbs. This is the last straw you have to make changes he is detrimental to our team at this point, I heard Bemidji might be looking for a new OC would be a better fit at then this level of football.

What about st

[gfhockey]

We played to to to 

[UND Football Fan]

This qoute could fit with our one score games this year. 

[gfhockey]

Just now, UND Football Fan said:

This qoute could fit with our one score games this year. 

That was bubba ball this year we are going toe to toe

[nodak651]

Why cant Jerry do the Quincey Vaughn tush push?

 

[UND-FB-FAN]

59 minutes ago, bubbaball69 said:

If they OC desk isn't empty by Noon today, I think we have a serious problem with the program. The defense wasn't perfect but they did enough where we should have won by 10 points. I get he didn't miss the kick which is a whole other thing. But he did call for 3 passes at the 3, with first and goal. Had Jerry in the gun at 4 and inches and then decided to have Jerry throw deep when a short out route would have been fine. Again with not running it to the edges wtf is with all the up the gut runs you have one of the best rb in FCS and you run him up the gut hes shifty and fast get him on the edges to be 1v1 the lbs and cbs. This is the last straw you have to make changes he is detrimental to our team at this point, I heard Bemidji might be looking for a new OC would be a better fit at then this level of football.

Defense was pretty much perfect. Holding ag college to 15 points should always lead to a win …

Offense and special teams (missed field goal) simply didn’t get it done. UND is not 1-3 or 2-2 in one score games and 2 minute drills; they are now 0-4. That is unacceptable and officially the current problem at hand. Now, the answer to the problem is more complex, but it includes better play-calling, better execution and eventually better play-makers for UND on the field. From a ST perspective, need better (and more reliable) field-goal kicking. 
 

Grand Forks Herald also recognizes this issue
 

[gfhockey]

3 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Defense was pretty much perfect. Holding ag college to 15 points should always lead to a win …

Offense and special teams (missed field goal) simply didn’t get it done. UND is not 1-3 or 2-2 in one score games and 2 minute drills; they are now 0-4. That is unacceptable and officially the current problem at hand. Now, the answer to the problem is more complex, but it includes better play-calling, better execution and eventually better play-makers for UND on the field. From a ST perspective, need better (and more reliable) field-goal kicking. 
 

Tom Miller on this issue
 

Should have hire Luke when given the vhsncr

 

nownlooke at mexico

[UND-FB-FAN]

3 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Should have hire Luke when given the vhsncr

 

nownlooke at mexico

Luke S. or even Danny Freund back at UND as an OC would be amazing, but of course unlikely, as both raking in cash as FBS coordinators. Of course, it was unlikely that Schmidt would come back here after his FBS success and now he’s back, so never say never. 

Now, if you can get some of those hockey boosters to redirect UND funds to the actual #1 sport in North Dakota and America (football), then we may have a chance to further upgrade… 

[Hans8891]

I think we are nearly unanimous in questioning the 3 passes from the 2 yard line and not going under center when we only needed 3 inches on 4th down.  I can’t understand what Issac was thinking on those.  It just makes no sense to me.  The remainder of the game, it is easy to be an armchair quarterback when one thing doesnt work, but those were the only plays that I can honestly say left me scratching my head in bewilderment.  At some point, the players have to make plays.  People on this blog have short memories.  3 weeks ago there was mention of Jerry as a Harlen Hill and even Heisman candidate (albeit not realistic).  He has not played his best games the past two weeks.  Underthrown balls, not seeing the open receiver, and not putting it in places that only the receiver can get to.  He has had some really good throws too, but not consistently enough yet to be an elite QB that we can count on to put the game on his shoulders to win.  He has had 4 opportunities to do that and has folded in each one of them.  I think he will get there but he is a first year starting quarterback.  He makes first year mistakes when the game is on the line.  The defense was incredible yesterday.  The offense was not, but lets be realistic about the offense too..  Like it or not, NDSU is the number one team in the country for a reason.  The only team that has really put any points and yards on them was Beau Brunsgard and Youngstown, who is a formidable threat.  Illinois state got 300 yards on them.  South Dakota did as well, but only because they got 10 points in the 4th quarter with 3rd and 4th string defense down 44-3.  Other than that, NDSU has hardly given up 150 yards to most teams all year.  They are a legitimate defense that does not give up yards easily.  We left some yards and points on them board to be sure, but their defense had something to do with it as well.  I hard an NDSU fan on the way out the door telling his buddies how bad their offense was,.  That is equally stupid.  It clearly had something to do with our defense and not just their offensive ineptitude.  We need to take care of business the next two weeks and we will be in the playoffs and are capable of making a run.  We just need to keep making progress and hopefully Jerry will learn with experience and be able to take that next step.  When he does, look out.

[gfhockey]

3 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Luke S. or even Danny Freund back at UND as an OC would be amazing, but of course unlikely, as both raking in cash as FBS coordinators. Of course, it was unlikely that Schmidt would come back here after his FBS success and now he’s back, so never say never. 

Now, if you can get some of those hockey boosters to redirect UND funds to the actual #1 sport in North Dakota and America (football), then we may have a chance to further upgrade… 

Danny getting his azz canned at weu

he didntbwant us we don’t want him

luke actually wanted ys 

[Oxbow6]

The passing game issues are complex. Jerry is still an upgrade over Romfo but that margin is shrinking. His accuracy is average at best right now. He holds the ball why too long. But his WR group is honestly not very good. Poor route runners. Too many drops. Not good at separating to get open. This squad needed one more year outta Bo. Still feel Jerry is a really good CFB QB but last two game are kind of a head scratcher.

[UND-FB-FAN]

11 minutes ago, Hans8891 said:

I think we are nearly unanimous in questioning the 3 passes from the 2 yard line and not going under center when we only needed 3 inches on 4th down.  I can’t understand what Issac was thinking on those.  It just makes no sense to me.  The remainder of the game, it is easy to be an armchair quarterback when one thing doesnt work, but those were the only plays that I can honestly say left me scratching my head in bewilderment.  At some point, the players have to make plays.  People on this blog have short memories.  3 weeks ago there was mention of Jerry as a Harlen Hill and even Heisman candidate (albeit not realistic).  He has not played his best games the past two weeks.  Underthrown balls, not seeing the open receiver, and not putting it in places that only the receiver can get to.  He has had some really good throws too, but not consistently enough yet to be an elite QB that we can count on to put the game on his shoulders to win.  He has had 4 opportunities to do that and has folded in each one of them.  I think he will get there but he is a first year starting quarterback.  He makes first year mistakes when the game is on the line.  The defense was incredible yesterday.  The offense was not, but lets be realistic about the offense too..  Like it or not, NDSU is the number one team in the country for a reason.  The only team that has really put any points and yards on them was Beau Brunsgard and Youngstown, who is a formidable threat.  Illinois state got 300 yards on them.  South Dakota did as well, but only because they got 10 points in the 4th quarter with 3rd and 4th string defense down 44-3.  Other than that, NDSU has hardly given up 150 yards to most teams all year.  They are a legitimate defense that does not give up yards easily.  We left some yards and points on them board to be sure, but their defense had something to do with it as well.  I hard an NDSU fan on the way out the door telling his buddies how bad their offense was,.  That is equally stupid.  It clearly had something to do with our defense and not just their offensive ineptitude.  We need to take care of business the next two weeks and we will be in the playoffs and are capable of making a run.  We just need to keep making progress and hopefully Jerry will learn with experience and be able to take that next step.  When he does, look out.

Never justify mediocrity, ever. No one at UND wants to be average, and that includes not accepting the excuse of “it takes time”…

Play-calling could’ve been different, sure, on both goalline sequence and 4th and short call, but ultimately need to execute better also. Not coming away with at least 3 points after goalline sequence is absolutely inexcusable. That missed FG was the crux.

UND is 0-4 versus good teams despite the defense putting them into position each and every time to win. Offense needs to do better. Don’t heavily weigh what UND is doing versus Valpo, Portland State and Indiana State into your equation. That’s not our tier.

But as I said, solution is complex; play-calling, mindset, execution, and needing better play-makers on the field are all factors. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

5 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Danny getting his azz canned at weu

he didntbwant us we don’t want him

luke actually wanted ys 

There’s other options fortunately 

[UND-FB-FAN]

2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

But his WR group is honestly not very good.

This is a key issue. To win 2 minute drills - which UND is 0-4 on currently this season - you need studs who can make plays even when the whole building knows you’re passing every down. UND doesn’t have that and needs that, but also there are intricacies in timing, coverage recognition, knowing when to check down versus test the coverage, etc. that just aren’t clicking right now. 

[shep]

It's always easy to blame a coach, but when you dial up a great play and your QB sends the ball to the other team it's not the coach's fault.

The Moving Company could not squeeze a few inches at the goal line on the firt 2 times they had the ball. The same is true when the game was on the line and the OL could not get one dang yard.

Need to do better. If they had there would be no talk of canning coaches.

[gfhockey]

2 minutes ago, shep said:

It's always easy to blame a coach, but when you dial up a great play and your QB sends the ball to the other team it's not the coach's fault.

The Moving Company could not squeeze a few inches at the goal line on the firt 2 times they had the ball. The same is true when the game was on the line and the OL could not get one dang yard.

Need to do better. If they had there would be no talk of canning coaches.

The moving company didn’t want Ben a chance

 

we thre 3 times on first and 2 from the two

[UND-FB-FAN]

10 minutes ago, shep said:

It's always easy to blame a coach, but when you dial up a great play and your QB sends the ball to the other team it's not the coach's fault.

The Moving Company could not squeeze a few inches at the goal line on the firt 2 times they had the ball. The same is true when the game was on the line and the OL could not get one dang yard.

Need to do better. If they had there would be no talk of canning coaches.

True and false. Going all the way back to Bill Walsh, successful offensive football is never about banging your head against a wall. You never want to minimize your offense to just making one player overcome another. When the defense is sold out to stop one thing, you need to go to something different. There were some opportunities for different play calls yesterday, as such, but I agree with you that the players ultimately need to make the plays and they didn’t make enough at the end of the day. What makes this sting is they didn’t need to make 4 or 5 more plays, just 1 more play wouldve been enough and UND would be in the driver seat for the conference championship. Instead, we’re fighting for a playoff spot and ag college and their cocky a**hole fans got to celebrate on our home turf 

if there’s a light at the end of the tunnel, it’s that this program and current team is very close…one play away from beating the best team in FCS football 

keep grinding and this team can make a deep, deep playoff run

[1972]

I slept on it, and still pissed.  Great atmosphere,  great opportunity to knock the champs off their pedestal and make a REAL statement.   You have 4 chances from inside the 5...you run it everything!  At worst, you bury them at the 1 yard line...at best, you go up 14-6, and have them on the ropes.   If we cannot get 2 yards on 3-4 downs, we have no business being called a football team that thinks their a contender in the fcs

[gfhockey]

So when was Chavez last good hire? X country coach maybe?

[UND-FB-FAN]

Just now, gfhockey said:

So when was Chavez last good hire? X country coach maybe?

Less than a year ago. Eric Schmidt 

[gfhockey]

5 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Less than a year ago. Eric Schmidt 

How? We won’t even make the llaysoff at this rate

 

st leata bubba best und and he didn’t have a house on golf ckurse

[bubbaball69]

1 hour ago, gfhockey said:

What about st

End of the year