2024-2025 season

[SiouxFan100]

Nobody was open in that last inbound play.

[Oxbow6]

2 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said:

Nobody was open in that last inbound play.

When everyone knew Schiller was gonna get it so of course not. 

[NewUndFan]

But Hurst didn't even look like she knew what to do.  She has been a liability since she got here. Mal just needs to be done.  We have some really good pieces to build off of.  I'm afraid the Mayville coach just got Mal a extension. 

[gfhockey]

36 minutes ago, NewUndFan said:

But Hurst didn't even look like she knew what to do.  She has been a liability since she got here. Mal just needs to be done.  We have some really good pieces to build off of.  I'm afraid the Mayville coach just got Mal an extension. 

Do they need a womens coach mentor like bubba is males coach mentor

[ND-fan]

I don’t know how everyone else feels but this was game we should have won making it the third game I think we could have won but again got out coached in the game especially at the end. The ORU and Omaha games we should have won I feel too. We’re now at 3 and 4 in the conference will be lucky finish 5 in the conference.

Dom was talking the young team they had on the floor but we were just as young on the floor also. They had one senior always on the floor and at least 3 sophomores that have played big minutes in past two years. They had one freshman Frost with other two freshmen playing some minutes. But down the stretch they had two seniors and two sophomores and one freshmen. We ar the end had one junior, two sophomores, and two freshmen at the end of the game. Except when they brought junior in and we know what happened.

This team has played better fundamentally now in last six games than they have played in past two seasons but I wonder what level could we be at with these players if they would have had better coaching. Since Jory has coached at SU that has been what he has improved recruiting players coaching them up on fundamentals and building them up physically. Look at Draper how she has improved since coming to SU from Bradley. This hasn’t happened here at UND until we have seen some signs this year. 
We need need for administration to evaluate coaching in all our sports there has to be some accountability on job performance.

[GDPritch]

On 1/24/2025 at 12:43 PM, ND-fan said:

Rivalry weekend for UND with NDSU  but now what will be  game plan be for UND. I pretty much know what SU game plan will be to take advantage of their length and try to get open looks at three. They will try to out rebound us on offensive side and get us in foul trouble on inside.

Und has choice of man to man pressure defense or go to match up zone force SU into trying to beat them with three where they have been his season. I think they may change up on defense depending what is having best results and to protect them from getting in foul trouble. Offensively we will need to have good afternoon from outside and then be able to push them on transition where I believe they could be vulnerable if we do it smartly. The other question will SU pressure us full court to create turnovers and trap our smaller players. We will need big games out of Demers and Ibrahim on inside and then will be if Schiller and Aumer will be able to score with length that SU will have against them. 
I think we will have difficult time winning Jory has gad our number and hasn’t lost to us at home. I also worry our turnover problems will return especially in hostile gym if things start going wrong.

Good effort but 19 turnovers and just 3 assists.

[GDPritch]

4 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

First quarter observations...

UND is a bad BB team

Demers is a defensive liability 

Can't run an offensive every set from 20' out

Schiller looks frustrated but she plays so hard

I would have said that 5 - 6 weeks ago but they have really been up-trending since then. 100% improvement Optimistic for next season. 

[GDPritch]

3 hours ago, sioux24/7 said:

Why the hell was Hurst put in there? She is such a liability. 

I thought the exact same thing.  Yoy.

[Kab]

3 hours ago, sioux24/7 said:

Why the hell was Hurst put in there? She is such a liability. 

I thought the same thing but I think she may have been the 2nd shooter option 

[NewUndFan]

4 minutes ago, Kab said:

I thought the same thing but I think she may have been the 2nd shooter option 

Probably was but she is such a liability. I'd never have her throwing in the ball. Big mistake by coach.  Have your best passer and if Hurst is open at the buzzer let her shoot. But Josie needed the ball 

[ND-fan]

Better yet, Hurst played 5 minutes and had three turnovers and scored three points on three but missed her second attempt not even hitting the rim same as turnover. This had to be Mallory putting her in she hasn’t played any significant minutes in last few games. We have several other players that have length, quicker than her, shoot equally as well.

[SiouxFan100]

I sure hope we didn’t have any timeouts left

[Oxbow6]

Collins and his NDSU teams are 10-1 vs UND 

[Hans8891]

3 assists will tell you everything you need to know about our offense.  Jossy works her tail off but she has to create everything in whatever it is that Mal calls an offense.  We go from Kacie having to do everything to passing the baton to Jossy.  Pemberton, Jossy , and Aumer did a nice job of scoring on the drive but had to do so one on 3 because of our lack of offense.  On a positive note, Ibrahim was fantastic.  10 blocks in one game against a team with skilled bigs was incredible.  She needs more minutes and will keep getting better.

[Oxbow6]

1 hour ago, Hans8891 said:

3 assists will tell you everything you need to know about our offense.  Jossy works her tail off but she has to create everything in whatever it is that Mal calls an offense.  We go from Kacie having to do everything to passing the baton to Jossy.  Pemberton, Jossy , and Aumer did a nice job of scoring on the drive but had to do so one on 3 because of our lack of offense.  On a positive note, Ibrahim was fantastic.  10 blocks in one game against a team with skilled bigs was incredible.  She needs more minutes and will keep getting better.

This....^^^

NDSU would be knocking on SDSU's door as the best team in the Summitt if Josie ran their offense. 

She's a wasted talent in UND's offense. 

[ND-fan]

Mallory since she was named coach has believed in star system of lead star with several skilled players that help complimented , that star player. She has never invested in developing team concept and offense concept running offense that creates offense by running that offense will create a good opportunity to get high percentage shot by running the offense. We again are creating this star system with Schiller but we also have star scorer in Pemberton now leaving very little for the team create assist to score. If your one of other players you take your shot whenever you get opportunity so very little concept of running offense that creates high percentage shots and winning by controlling possessions and winning the percentage over your opponent in successful possessions. This also reflects on turnovers and definitely assists. Yesterday NDSU runs offense that finds player who will have highest percentage of scoring. They got away from this in second quarter and some of that was from foul trouble. If you  listened to Jory there coach he pretty much said that going into half. The second half did make this change and they gradually controlled second half on winning scoring possessions. They found  Koenen on inside because we had hard time matching up to her size length and especially with how they got ball to her down low and we had no help for Horne to stop her down low besides fouling her. Which resulted in her fouling out. Mathern didn’t have much better luck until late when she blocked shot but referees had called fouls several possessions in row  before that so let lot contact slide. This is how Jory has beat us 10 out of 11 times and how SDSU has beaten us for years.  I have hoped Mallory would learn this but she wants to coach liked she played aggressive and up tempo but that is not how you win consistently. It works when you are deep in talent and out class your competition like we were when we were in division II but now when we’re like teams we played in division II and not going school with dominant talent. NDSU found this out when they moved up into division I and went through over 10 years of loosing but after falling to terrible program they went out found coach Jory that has transformed the program into program that is going to as successful small midmajor program can be in division I basketball. I thought maybe coach Hutter would teach her something but I don’t think Mallory can change but UND needs to change  if we’re going to be successful.

[Kab]

I don’t think hutter  had much say about that last play unfortunately 

‘wonder what he would have called 

[UND1983]

Did the staff assume Jocie was going to be open coming up the lane?  She set the pick for Pemberton to run to the far corner but Hurst was not looking there whatsoever.  Hurst was waiting for Jocie and then I believe #10 was gonna set a screen for her.  The problem is the Bison guard was waiting up high for Jocie.  End of play.  

Mal should've called timeout immediately upon seeing that.

[sioux24/7]

58 minutes ago, Kab said:

I don’t think hutter  had much say about that last play unfortunately 

‘wonder what he would have called 

Maybe, maybe not. I do believe, if I recall correctly, he was the one that grabbed Hurst to sub in. 

[SiouxFan100]

Demers really struggled against ndsu. 
14 minutes, no rebounds, two points, five of our 19 turnovers. I think she is better than this but might have problems against the types of players ndsu have.

Really would help to have another player like Ibrahim. Our three recruits coming in are two at 5’10” and one 5’8”. I questioned it at the time. We seem like we are missing the boat in the types of players we need.

[jdub27]

On 1/25/2025 at 11:37 AM, fightingsioux4life said:

Your ability to shill for this athletic department is what's hilarious.

Hakstol was a master of coach-speak, but I don't think he ever said wins and losses don't matter. Neither did Blais, Roebuck, Glas or Lennon.

I'd like to see the actual quote. Where and when was it said and what was the context? 

[fightingsioux4life]

52 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

I'd like to see the actual quote. Where and when was it said and what was the context? 

So now you're going to dispute that it was ever said?

[jdub27]

1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

So now you're going to dispute that it was ever said?

I'm asking to see where the quote was and what the context was. Is that hard to provide for some reason? I didn't see it in any of the quotes in the post game write-ups in the Herald 

[ND-fan]

I just pulled up the replay  of the game and I not sure what the last play of game  was it started with Schiller at bottom of the lane and Pemberton at elbow and  Ibrahim at near top of the key.  Aumer at sideline close Hurst taking the ball out. Schiller and Pemberton cross each other rubbing each other but  Draper runs into Schiller kind of holds Schiller for second and Schiller moves all way up to Hurst forcing her defender to Hurst then looking for pass from Hurst who over throws her and SU recovers loose ball. Pemberton when Schiller is moving up cuts to far corner was open for second in far corner. Aumer had moved to near corner. Ibrahim moved down the lane. Now I can’t understand why play ended up with pass ending up in the bison half of the court. If there was any chance to get ball in quick scoring position it should have gone into Ibrahim who was pretty much ignored by Bison or hit Schiller after her and Pemberton rubbed to shake off defender where Schiller could have driven from there with safety valves of Aumer and Pemberton in the corners.  I think Draper dropping off Ibrahim cut off Hurst entry pass to Schiller then whole play blows up. Hurst should have then enter pass to Ibrahim  where she could have passed to either outlet or she could have shot at the elbow where she has hit shots this season. This play was all Mallories play Hutter and other assistants just stood and was never involved even at beginning of timeout. Only thing was hearing play Hutter got Hurst to check in. When play blew up I did see Hutter throw his hands up when play blew up and through his back and just sat there. I am sure Mallory wanted this ball pretty much no matter going to Schiller but SU just played defense that way.  Also Pemberton going to far corner took her out play for getting shot. This was to way complicated play and you had your best players moving away from the basket instead of play going down hill toward basket especially when your out of timeouts. I may don’t see how this play should  have worked but evidently our player’s weren’t  able to execute the play either. If anybody else sees something different I would glad to hear what I am missing.

[ND-fan]

I was wrong it wasn’t Draper but number 40 who was guarding Pemberton that held Schiller and Ibrahim was at top of the key just standing covered by Draper. Nobody else moved on play with Aumer going to near corner and Pemberton going to far corner. There were no other people screened or moving towards Hurst. Everything centered on Schiller receiving the ball SU held Schiller enough in crossover that her defender was right with her. I was right before the key to the play Schiller needed to be open after cross over otherwise Schiller had to get open enough to get pass to her. There was secondary person to get the basketball I then think Schiller then would drive basketball with one on one drive to tie the game.