Week #4....The Devils and Vegas....

[stoneySIOUX]

2 hours ago, siouxkid12 said:

If the program wants to talk about "culture and tradition", then winning a national championship should be the expectation by our coaching staff and players every year. To do that, you need to come out the gate running on all cylinders. This notion that it takes time for players to adjust with new players is garbage. Other teams are in the same predicament, and they seem to adjust just fine. 

Yes, we may be 3-3-1 at the moment and its early but all 7 of our games have been against non-conference foes and they looked like crap against them. Something needs to change and it needs to change quick.

So, you wanted to "fIrE hAk" every season I take it, then? If you don't think it's a thing for a team to gel, I don't know what to tell you.

[stoneySIOUX]

1 hour ago, tnt said:

The same people screaming for Berry's head and longing for the days of Hakstol, are the one's that said we needed a change because Hakstol couldn't win it all.   People think that it is just a given that UND will always be a winning program and things can only get better.  I have a feeling if UND got rid of Berry or he left that people could be longing for the days of winning league championships and being in the mix every year.   Sometimes it is the case of "be careful what you wish for". 

It's hilarious, because like I just noted in my last post, if people wanted to fire Hak like they want to fire Bubbs today, Hak would have never made it to Christmas. And we'd never would have had his second half teams.

What it is is a lack of understanding that it is absolutely, unequivocally, harder to win a national championship now than it was in say, 2000, when we won our 7th. We have a tradition that spans decades of dominating in a sport that was incredibly top heavy. That tide has turned and SO many more teams are competitive. Some say that is an excuse, but it's just flatly common sense -- if the talent pool improves, it's harder to win. UND has still consistently been a top program, making the tournament nearly every, single season. 

Hopefully people soon realize how frickin' hard it is to win a championship so everyone calms the eff down if we're not undefeated in October lol.

[siouxkid12]

51 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

So, you wanted to "fIrE hAk" every season I take it, then? If you don't think it's a thing for a team to gel, I don't know what to tell you.

No, I was actually against it saying it then and I am against saying it now. Firing Berry leads us down a path of "who do you get" and at this moment there isn't anyone better, IMO. However, as a coaching staff I think there are things that they can do better. 
Also, coming out to start the season and having very inconsistent play from weekend to weekend is not good. The Quinnipiac series should've went our way, we got very lucky against the Gophers in that we split and then we get out played in Vegas. 

[stoneySIOUX]

9 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said:

No, I was actually against it saying it then and I am against saying it now. Firing Berry leads us down a path of "who do you get" and at this moment there isn't anyone better, IMO. However, as a coaching staff I think there are things that they can do better. 
Also, coming out to start the season and having very inconsistent play from weekend to weekend is not good. The Quinnipiac series should've went our way, we got very lucky against the Gophers in that we split and then we get out played in Vegas. 

This is the concept of gelling. You seem to believe all teams should hit the ground running every season. I don't think that's the case. I absolutely believe the talent is in that room to be a very solid team, but we're 7 games in. We'll get there. 

[siouxkid12]

2 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said:

This is the concept of gelling. You seem to believe all teams should hit the ground running every season. I don't think that's the case. I absolutely believe the talent is in that room to be a very solid team, but we're 7 games in. We'll get there. 

But those 5 crappy games can cost us a tournament bid. 

[stoneySIOUX]

2 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said:

But those 5 crappy games can cost us a tournament bid. 

Four of those are against teams who are going to be near the top of the PWR. ASU could find itself as a TUC. Can they cost us a bid? Sure. We know one bad game early can do that, but none of those three losses are really THAT bad.

At the end of the day, get wins and we'll be fine. This is literally all this conversation, from my end, has been about. It's OVERREACTION. We're 7 games in. If this game in Vegas nips us in the butt at the end of the year, I'll eat my words. I do not think this will be a big deal. 

[siouxfaninseattle]

This might have been posted already but I'm not going to read 29 pages to find out. Win one more of the games against QU or minnie and the record is 4-2-1. No pitchforks. Lose one more of those games and it's 2-4-1. Pitchforks everywhere. I gotta think those two teams are going to be very high PWR when the tournament rolls around. The ASU loss was not pretty but the sky is not falling. Seems like there was a season (under Hak) when they had a losing record (or right about .500) at Christmas and then only lost a few games the rest of the year. I think that's the kind of team this will be.

[siouxkid12]

2 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Four of those are against teams who are going to be near the top of the PWR. ASU could find itself as a TUC. Can they cost us a bid? Sure. We know one bad game early can do that, but none of those three losses are really THAT bad.

At the end of the day, get wins and we'll be fine. This is literally all this conversation, from my end, has been about. It's OVERREACTION. We're 7 games in. If this game in Vegas nips us in the butt at the end of the year, I'll eat my words. I do not think this will be a big deal. 

We’ve seen this before from Berry’s team’s. The sweep from canisius in 18-19 is what kept us out and the loss and tie to Union and the tie to Alaska the year before was not helpful either. Call it an overreaction if you want to but it’s been seen before. Does the team have time to turn it around? You damn right they do but they need to figure it out quickly because now it’s conference play and you know every team is being their A game (which we have lacked the last 4 weeks).

[siouxkid12]

59 minutes ago, siouxfaninseattle said:

This might have been posted already but I'm not going to read 29 pages to find out. Win one more of the games against QU or minnie and the record is 4-2-1. No pitchforks. Lose one more of those games and it's 2-4-1. Pitchforks everywhere. I gotta think those two teams are going to be very high PWR when the tournament rolls around. The ASU loss was not pretty but the sky is not falling. Seems like there was a season (under Hak) when they had a losing record (or right about .500) at Christmas and then only lost a few games the rest of the year. I think that's the kind of team this will be.

I sure hope you are right but why does that have to be our programs MO?