jdub27 Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 18 hours ago, Old School Guy said: IMO it goes back to the strength and conditioning as well. A player that has spent time in weight room doing meaningful work will have a swagger when they step off the bus looking for some butt to kick. I don't know if our S&C program is suited for that that style of play. We appear to be more finesse. Ratelle lived in the weight room and he was far from a player that played with a lot of swagger. He went about his business and let his play do the talking for him. I get the general idea of wanting to see more swagger but I remember a lot on this board absolutely ripping the team Mussman's last year or two for having too much of it. I mostly agreed with that sentiment and while I like seeing emotion on a big play, no need to be hopping on and down after stopping a guy for a 1 yard gain or doing your job in general. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Ratelle lived in the weight room and he was far from a player that played with a lot of swagger. He went about his business and let his play do the talking for him. I get the general idea of wanting to see more swagger but I remember a lot on this board absolutely ripping the team Mussman's last year or two for having too much of it. I mostly agreed with that sentiment and while I like seeing emotion on a big play, no need to be hopping on and down after stopping a guy for a 1 yard gain or doing your job in general. I think a lot of the grumbling was over the dance competitions the players were holding on the sidelines while we were getting our heads bashed in by Montana. 1 Quote
UNDBIZ Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Ratelle lived in the weight room and he was far from a player that played with a lot of swagger. He went about his business and let his play do the talking for him. I get the general idea of wanting to see more swagger but I remember a lot on this board absolutely ripping the team Mussman's last year or two for having too much of it. I mostly agreed with that sentiment and while I like seeing emotion on a big play, no need to be hopping on and down after stopping a guy for a 1 yard gain or doing your job in general. What got to me during the Mussman years was the DBs celebrating a "big" hit after giving up a 30 yard completion. 4 Quote
UNDColorado Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 25 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: What got to me during the Mussman years was the DBs celebrating a "big" hit after giving up a 30 yard completion. I remember an instance at MSU or UM when we were getting our butts kicked. A DB actually made a nice hit then decided to celebrate it a bit much...a fellow player came over to him and said something to the effect of "Look at the scoreboard you moron, stop acting like a tool." Quote
jdub27 Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 52 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: What got to me during the Mussman years was the DBs celebrating a "big" hit after giving up a 30 yard completion. My point exactly, but he had that swagger we're all looking for now. And he probably should have celebrated since he didn't escort the guy into the end-zone. Tackles by the DB's were a big deal for a while there! Quote
geaux_sioux Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, jdub27 said: Ratelle lived in the weight room and he was far from a player that played with a lot of swagger. He went about his business and let his play do the talking for him. I get the general idea of wanting to see more swagger but I remember a lot on this board absolutely ripping the team Mussman's last year or two for having too much of it. I mostly agreed with that sentiment and while I like seeing emotion on a big play, no need to be hopping on and down after stopping a guy for a 1 yard gain or doing your job in general. There's a difference between having swagger/confidence and portraying the fake over the top swag bro bs. That's all an act and it distracts from getting the job done. Some people are more boisterous than others naturally but a guy hopping around the field in circles for 15 seconds waving his finger at the 250 fans who showed up to the game after recording your first sack of the season is the type of crap that causes a team to never win a game. I like fire, passion, and swagger. I hate swag. 3 Quote
gundy1124 Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 On 10/28/2017 at 9:11 PM, gundy1124 said: I felt at 14-0 we hit rock bottom on the year. We responded and it actually looked like we were having fun. Even 2 quality losses to finish the year would be OK, compared to getting embarrassed. 1-1 would be fantastic. Someone was pissy about my comment, privately. I was predicting at 14-0 we hit bottom, during the game. I still thought we'd win after watching 1 quarter of action. We were moving the ball and the Portland St. O-line was sketch at left tackle. If I wasn't clear, that was my positive outlook that from 14-0 we'd finish the year stronger. 1 Quote
jdub27 Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 21 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: I like fire, passion, and swagger. I hate swag. Yep, but it's a fine, fine line. As you stated earlier, it's in the perception. 1 Quote
gfhockey Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 What about the boys dancing during The game? or chevon Mackey flipping off Und fans Quote
gfhockey Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 Mussmans teams were good at trash talking tho. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, gfhockey said: What about the boys dancing during The game? or chevon Mackey flipping off Und fans Did this actually happen? Because you’ve fabricated things like this in the past. 1 Quote
UNDvince97-01 Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Did this actually happen? Because you’ve fabricated things like this in the past. How dare you.... I'd like to make a motion to have geaux_sioux banned from this board, bludgeoned with blunt objects, and shamed eternally for his blasphemous comment about gfhockey. Do I have a second?.... 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, UNDvince97-01 said: How dare you.... I'd like to make a motion to have geaux_sioux banned from this board, bludgeoned with blunt objects, and shamed eternally for his blasphemous comment about gfhockey. Do I have a second?.... Quote
Old School Guy Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 8 hours ago, jdub27 said: Ratelle lived in the weight room and he was far from a player that played with a lot of swagger. He went about his business and let his play do the talking for him. I get the general idea of wanting to see more swagger but I remember a lot on this board absolutely ripping the team Mussman's last year or two for having too much of it. I mostly agreed with that sentiment and while I like seeing emotion on a big play, no need to be hopping on and down after stopping a guy for a 1 yard gain or doing your job in general. I don't think you fully understand what swagger is. Let me break it down. Swagger is a confidence and belief that a player (man or woman) has that is derived from hours of practice, training, film study, and a belief in one's ability to get the job done whether your opponent wants you to get the job done or not. Swagger is not verbalized or put on display for the outside world to see. Its like when you study for a test and you are ready to answer any and all questions, because you feel supremely prepared then you go and ace it. No yelling or chest thumping required. Swagger and thrash talking is two vastly different things. People with swag don't tell you what they can do, they just show you. You don't think Will felt that way when he walked on the field? I"ll bet he did. That's why he was so successful, and the NFL scouts came calling. Quote
shep Posted October 31, 2017 Author Posted October 31, 2017 Good stuff. I think these guys may read this forum. Seemed to address some of the issues raised here. http://kfgo.com/blogs/und-football-360/30670/und-hammers-the-vikings/ Quote
Old School Guy Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, shep said: Good stuff. I think these guys may read this forum. Seemed to address some of the issues raised here. http://kfgo.com/blogs/und-football-360/30670/und-hammers-the-vikings/ Good things happen when you control the line of scrimmage, which we did yesterday on both sides of the ball. Throw in some solid special teams play and you will more often than not get the W in dominant fashion. Quote
MoSiouxFan Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Don't think I ever heard Izzy's name mentioned, or see him on the field, during the PSU game. Was he hurt, or did I just miss him? Quote
SiouxBoys Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 38 minutes ago, MoSiouxFan said: Don't think I ever heard Izzy's name mentioned, or see him on the field, during the PSU game. Was he hurt, or did I just miss him? In some of the replays, you can see him standing on the sideline in full pads. Not sure why he didn't get into the game. Quote
MoSiouxFan Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, SiouxBoys said: In some of the replays, you can see him standing on the sideline in full pads. Not sure why he didn't get into the game. Thanks. Quote
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