College Hockey Expansion

[SiouxVolley]

With the court removal of probation of states that allow sports betting from hosting, Las Vegas is bidding on NCAA championship events.

https://www.casino.org/news/las-vegas-officials-submit-ncaa-host-bids-city-viewed-as-frontrunner

[cberkas]

6 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:

With the court removal of probation of states that allow sports betting from hosting, Las Vegas is bidding on NCAA championship events.

https://www.casino.org/news/las-vegas-officials-submit-ncaa-host-bids-city-viewed-as-frontrunner

NCHC is trying to host the Frozen Four in Vegas.

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

Never heard of this college before, but by all means, use college hockey as a way to get your name out there!

[SiouxVolley]

1 hour ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

Never heard of this college before, but by all means, use college hockey as a way to get your name out there!

High Point U is in the triad cities of Winston-Salem, Greensboro and High Point, which has Wake Forest, N C A&T and UNC-Greensboro as DI schools too.  High Point seems to be positioning itself as a warmer NE school as it has banked on out of state students. It went DI before UND but not many years ago and has been growing and previously added lacrosse.

Here’s today’s article that it is investing $1 billion in new facilities and programs.  The Carolina Hurricanes played the first year in the Greensboro Coliseum when the new arena in Raleigh was under construction, so hockey isn't unknown there.

https://www.wfmynews2.com/article/news/education/high-point-university-investment-announcement/83-89410bf8-05f2-4b8c-87b4-22ad01213111

Looks like the WCHA knew that a southern League for UAH was developing, as Liberty, Navy, Alabama, Georgia and Louisville and maybe others will start teams.

[SiouxVolley]

Another article on High Point University and its growth.

https://www.greensboro.com/news/education/high-point-u-s-plan-for-the-next-decade-more/article_4bbd1832-bb28-5cb7-b480-ad78c243be5a.html#1

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

52 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said:

Another article on High Point University and its growth.

https://www.greensboro.com/news/education/high-point-u-s-plan-for-the-next-decade-more/article_4bbd1832-bb28-5cb7-b480-ad78c243be5a.html#1

How does a school with an 80 million endowment justify spending 300 million on athletic upgrades? Sounds like a pipe dream.

[SiouxVolley]

38 minutes ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

How does a school with an 80 million endowment justify spending 300 million on athletic upgrades? Sounds like a pipe dream.

The $300 million expansion includes several other buildings.  Doubt the new arena will be even $100 million but lesser then Penn St.

High Point U has expanded with high end dorms and taken over a mall and turned it into a pharmacy school.  High Point’s downtown is the furniture capital of the USA with a huge many story  expo center and has a lot of money around it, even it the city is relatively poor.

[northernraider]

+10 points to anyone who thought High Point U would have a college hockey team. 

[SiouxVolley]

3 hours ago, northernraider said:

+10 points to anyone who thought High Point U would have a college hockey team. 

Earlier had sad High Point was aiming higher in athletics in another thread and got a flack for that.  High Point U wants the CAA but doesn’t want football as there are so many teams in N.C.  Hockey would set it apart in N.C. and the tuition and room ($51.5 k) isn’t so much to turn off North East students.  With M/W lax, M/W soccer and now ice hockey, resembles NE schools like Denver does.

[omahasioux1]

1 hour ago, SiouxVolley said:

Earlier had sad High Point was aiming higher in athletics in another thread and got a flack for that.  High Point U wants the CAA but doesn’t want football as there are so many teams in N.C.  Hockey would set it apart in N.C. and the tuition and room ($51.5 k) isn’t so much to turn off North East students.  With M/W lax, M/W soccer and now ice hockey, resembles NE schools like Denver does.

Probably a very smart move. Just not sure if North Carolina cares about hockey.

[SWSiouxMN]

High Point?

Of Tubby Smith fame?

[cberkas]

UNLV, Utah, and Grand Canyon joined the WCHL ACHA Division 1 club hockey conference for the 2020 season.

[SiouxVolley]

1 hour ago, cberkas said:

UNLV, Utah, and Grand Canyon joined the WCHL ACHA Division 1 club hockey conference for the 2020 season.

UNLV and Utah have access to DI capable rinks.  Grand Canyon doesn’t.  Wonder how they would move up with facilities.  But GCU has bucks at its disposal.

With Arizona St, those three teams can form a NCAA league with the Alaska’s.

[SiouxVolley]

The Jimmy John chain, which is based in Champaign, was sold to the owner of Arby’s and BWW, so rumors are out there that Jimmy John will endow a U of Illinois hockey team.  Jimmy John hasn’t made any public states in the past about Illini hockey, but the rumor is out there.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-jimmy-johns-sold-20190925-argxi7nwyjh5ddbc7m6cf4oiwy-story.html

[cberkas]

17 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:

The Jimmy John chain, which is based in Champaign, was sold to the owner of Arby’s and BWW, so rumors are out there that Jimmy John will endow a U of Illinois hockey team.  Jimmy John hasn’t made any public states in the past about Illini hockey, but the rumor is out there.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-jimmy-johns-sold-20190925-argxi7nwyjh5ddbc7m6cf4oiwy-story.html

He supposedly gave them money a few years ago and they said no, so he took the money back.  

[jdub27]

On 9/18/2019 at 5:27 PM, SiouxVolley said:

Earlier had sad High Point was aiming higher in athletics in another thread and got a flack for that.  

You say alot of things, so not a surprise you've commented on them, but here's the reality:
You've made two passing comments about High Point, one stating they had grown and are looking to invest in athletics and another commenting on how small their endowment was. Neither comment got a response, let alone someone giving you "flack" about anything related to High Point.

 

On 1/14/2019 at 10:00 PM, SiouxVolley said:

Two private schools that have grown impressively over the last decade in NC are High Point U and Campbell U, which are now both in the Big South.  Could see both try to up their game to the CAA if it is has openings.  High Point doesn’t have fb yet, but some other CAA schools  like UNC-Wilmington, Drexel, C of Charleston, and Hofstra don’t have fb either.  Campbell just started scholarship football, but see them continuously improving like Elon has.

Here is what HPU has done recently.  It borrowed a lot of money in addition to receiving many gifts, but managed to make it attractive for students from the Northeast money set.

http://www.highpoint.edu/blog/2019/01/continuous-growth/

 

On 4/9/2019 at 7:24 PM, SiouxVolley said:

That was my point.  Presbyterian can’t keep FCS scholarship fb with a $100 million endowment.  High Point doesn’t even attempt non-scholarship DI fb with a $50 million endowment.

CSP could possibly make it at DI if it dropped fb, but the Summit would be digging deep worse than the Big South

 

[SiouxVolley]

14 hours ago, jdub27 said:

You say alot of things, so not a surprise you've commented on them, but here's the reality:
You've made two passing comments about High Point, one stating they had grown and are looking to invest in athletics and another commenting on how small their endowment was. Neither comment got a response, let alone someone giving you "flack" about anything related to High Point.

 

 

 

As usual, wrong again.  In the Facilities Master Plan, had mentioned High Point as being ambitious.

Siouxperfan  than tore into that saying High Point would go FBS with the WAC and several  posters agreed with it sarcastically.

NC has three very ambitious private DI schools sub P5 that get most of their student from the Northeast.

Davidson moved to the A10.  Elon moved to the CAA.   High Point starts lacrosse and hockey to attract those potential students.

All three have made moves within the last 10 years for student recruitment, with athletic affiliation and sports sposorship.

[SiouxVolley]

There has been little reporting and talk of High Point building a rink and starting DI hockey except here and NC.

USCHO and College Hockey News don’t have anything on it.

Here’s another Greensboro article on High Point U’s growth and it’s president.

https://www.greensboro.com/opinion/editorials/our-opinion-nido-s-golden-touch/article_1cbfe284-3b7d-5174-89d4-fd67b9f7d59d.html

[SiouxVolley]

On 9/19/2019 at 12:01 PM, cberkas said:

UNLV, Utah, and Grand Canyon joined the WCHL ACHA Division 1 club hockey conference for the 2020 season.

Actually surprised that UC-Irvine didn’t join them using the Anaheim Ducks practice faculty, Great Park Ice and Fivepoint facility in Irvine.  UC Irvine has a big endowment for such a young school.  That arena has five rinks and the major one holds almost 2500.

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

10 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:

There has been little reporting and talk of High Point building a rink and starting DI hockey except here and NC.

USCHO and College Hockey News don’t have anything on it.

Here’s another Greensboro article on High Point U’s growth and it’s president.

https://www.greensboro.com/opinion/editorials/our-opinion-nido-s-golden-touch/article_1cbfe284-3b7d-5174-89d4-fd67b9f7d59d.html

My original post about it was quoting a tweet from a CHN writer.  Do they even have a current club team? 

[yzerman19]

12 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:

Actually surprised that UC-Irvine didn’t join them using the Anaheim Ducks practice faculty, Great Park Ice and Fivepoint facility in Irvine.  UC Irvine has a big endowment for such a young school.  That arena has five rinks and the major one holds almost 2500.

My kid is in Jr Kings program...you are absolutely correct on Irvine.  Great facilities and aspirations.  Strong LA area hockey too will give fan base and quality players to kick it off.  

[SiouxVolley]

4 hours ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

My original post about it was quoting a tweet from a CHN writer.  Do they even have a current club team? 

CHN doesn't have a story on it.  

High Point plays in the Greenboro Ice House in a DII ACHA league against mostly ACC schools.

[SiouxVolley]

11 hours ago, yzerman19 said:

My kid is in Jr Kings program...you are absolutely correct on Irvine.  Great facilities and aspirations.  Strong LA area hockey too will give fan base and quality players to kick it off.  

UC Irvine converted recently it's roller hockey club team to ice hockey.  Probably too early to go to a higher level in ACHA  yet.

Here was a story when that rink complex opened earlier this year.

https://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/entertainment/tn-wknd-et-great-park-ice-20190103-story.html

[SiouxVolley]

I'm such a sucker for economic history stories and this one is about High Point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.architecturaldigest.com/story/high-point-market-north-carolina-american-made-southern-town-became-the-furniture-capital-of-america/amp

High Point U is on the north (?) side of town that is rather impoverished, but that makes cheap property to expand with.

[northernraider]

"Though their sights are set on making Boise State’s hockey club a Division I program, a lack of funding will halt the Broncos’ plans of playing at such a high level. Instead, much of the Broncos’ attention will be geared towards coming back from a recent playoff failure."

Sounds D1 hockey is on the radar, but still long ways to go

https://arbiteronline.com/boise-state-hockey-aims-to-bounce-back/