Vegas_Sioux Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2014-09-08/ncaa-restores-penn-state-football-postseason-scholarships Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The NCAA doesn't want to turn PSU into SMU 2.0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2014-09-08/ncaa-restores-penn-state-football-postseason-scholarships Good! If the NCAA wanted to punish Penn State, it should have 86'd the entire football program for a year or two. Instead, they chose to punish the athletes who stayed with the school/team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 What must a school do to make "considerable progress" in the case of ceasing molestation of campers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 What must a school do to make "considerable progress" in the case of ceasing molestation of campers? Exactly. This just proves $$$ rules the NCAA. It's actually sick when you think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottM Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The NC$$ shouldn't have imposed those sanctions on them anyway. But whatever it takes to cover their a$$es in the media ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The NC$$ shouldn't have imposed those sanctions on them anyway. Why? I think they should've gotten the death penalty like SMU but worse. The administration is scum for letting their coach do this and covering it up. This is worse than Ohio State, USC and SMU combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 How many victims were there and how much money was the fine again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottM Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Why? I think they should've gotten the death penalty like SMU but worse. The administration is scum for letting their coach do this and covering it up. This is worse than Ohio State, USC and SMU combined. And it had absolutely nothing to do with the players or their performance on/off the field. They paid a price for the hubris of Paterno, Sandusky and a few administrators who are being prosecuted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 And it had absolutely nothing to do with the players or their performance on/off the field. They paid a price for the hubris of Paterno, Sandusky and a few administrators who are being prosecuted. Players are free to leave, just like they did at SMU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 How many victims were there and how much money was the fine again? Not enough money to erase the memory they will live with their whole life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Players are free to leave, just like they did at SMU. Why not shut down the entire institution for two years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Why not shut down the entire institution for two years? Or why not take the punishment given out by the NCAA. But I guess bowl games are more important than child molestation victims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Or why not take the punishment given out by the NCAA. But I guess bowl games are more important than child molestation victims. Nobody is saying that...but is it fair to tell the 21-going-on-22 year old senior who had no idea what was going on "no worries, you can transfer anywhere you want to without penalty" while you torpedo the program? And, let's be honest here, SMU isn't a valid comparison because players were involved in what was going on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Nobody is saying that...but is it fair to tell the 21-going-on-22 year old senior who had no idea what was going on "no worries, you can transfer anywhere you want to without penalty" while you torpedo the program? And, let's be honest here, SMU isn't a valid comparison because players were involved in what was going on there. It should be like SMU and cancel football for 2 years like you said and players be able to transfer to other colleges and play immediately. True it isn't fair to punish the kids when it was the coaches and AD that knew and covered it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 It should be like SMU and cancel football for 2 years like you said and players be able to transfer to other colleges and play immediately. True it isn't fair to punish the kids when it was the coaches and AD that knew and covered it up. There are no easy answers - yes, I think PSU should have gotten the death penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 What must a school do to make "considerable progress" in the case of ceasing molestation of campers? Put the offending coach in jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 How many victims were there and how much money was the fine again? PSU still has to pay 60 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Let me clarify what I wrote earlier regarding the death penalty. I do believe PSU's football program should have been put on ice for one or two years. However, once the NCAA simply decided to cripple its football program by 86'ing bowl games, decreasing scholarships, etc. is where I felt it was unfair to the current players. Yea, they were free to leave and go to another school (and quite a few did) but what about those kids who liked Penn State and wanted to stay there? Any player who stayed was punished...and they knew nothing. The NCAA decided to sever a main artery and let the program limp forward. Bill O'Brien did an admirable job keeping things together in his two years there and he's absolutely correct - the players who stayed deserved to be recognized by having their names put on the back of their jerseys. Nothing can take away or even slightly relieve the pain of the victims of these atrocities. Paterno's dead and Sandusky's rotting in a prison cell. But continuing to punish the players at Penn State does no good for anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choyt3 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 https://twitter.com/BeingBielema/status/509322903276363777 BeingBielema @BeingBielema Ohio State has some dudes trade jerseys for tattoos. Two year bowl ban. Penn State systematically covers up child rape. Two year bowl ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 https://twitter.com/BeingBielema/status/509322903276363777 He does make a good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 https://twitter.com/BeingBielema/status/509322903276363777 Ummm...BeingBielema forgot to mention the fact that Saint Tressel covered up a false crime that was reported by Maurice Clarett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Q: Why did they remove the remainder of sanctions from PSU? A: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-0kcet4aPpQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Q: Why did they remove the remainder of sanctions from PSU? A: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-0kcet4aPpQ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. The logo of the NCAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottM Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 One can only guess the result of the Sioux moniker battle if NoDak's legislative and congressional delegations had grabbed their stones and stepped forward when the NC$$ initally got on its high horse. Love the comments about the NC$$'s arrogance. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/05/sports/ncaafootball/how-one-legislator-helped-penn-state-escape-ncaas-harsh-penalties.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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