CMSioux Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 This is a moot point if/when the Fighting Sioux nickname is retired - just another politically incorrect trophy that will go the way of the Sitting Bull Trophy we had with USD. Nice to know that not only does UND own the overall won/lost record in football they own the won/lost record for the last 10 years and they won the last game played for the honor of having the most coveted trophy in the Sioux-Bison rivalry. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 This is a moot point if/when the Fighting Sioux nickname is retired - just another politically incorrect trophy that will go the way of the Sitting Bull Trophy we had with USD. Nice to know that not only does UND own the overall won/lost record in football they own the won/lost record for the last 10 years and they won the last game played for the honor of having the most coveted trophy in the Sioux-Bison rivalry. Is there a rule against using the trophy once the nickname is retired? I was under the impression items of historical significance (other than the nickname of course) could still be used. Quote
82SiouxGuy Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Is there a rule against using the trophy once the nickname is retired? I was under the impression items of historical significance (other than the nickname of course) could still be used. It probably could be used. But it would also encourage the group trying to keep the nickname and make it harder to transition away from the nickname. I would guess that it will be retired just like the Sitting Bull trophy. Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 I voted to retire it. I doubt NDSU and UND will be playing annually anyways. I'd send it to some state museum or something. It is a cool piece of history. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 I'd send it to some state museum or something. It is a cool piece of history. If it's to be retired, I'd say it's where it belongs right now. 3 Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 If it's to be retired, I'd say it's where it belongs right now. Eh, Idk, its a little hostile and abusive. Quote
108498 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 The peice should not be kept from the bison for ever because it is retired. I think we should make a second one and give it to NDSU OR GIVE THE ONE HELD BY THE SIOUX TO MUSEUM Quote
southpaw Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 This is a moot point if/when the Fighting Sioux nickname is retired - just another politically incorrect trophy that will go the way of the Sitting Bull Trophy we had with USD. Nice to know that not only does UND own the overall won/lost record in football they own the won/lost record for the last 10 years and they won the last game played for the honor of having the most coveted trophy in the Sioux-Bison rivalry. How dare you reference the overall record. Don't you know only the last 50 years matter to a certain poster here? Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 How dare you reference the overall record. Don't you know only the last 50 years matter to a certain poster here? What does the overall record have to do with the fact that I think that the trophy should be in a museum where everyone can see it. Will it make you happier if I said it should have a plaque that has a list of all the Nickel game scores on it? Quote
darell1976 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 I think keep it retired at least until UND and NDSU are in the same conference playing every year. The Nickel should be on a state rotation where a month its in Fargo, a month its in Bismarck, etc like NDSU did with the National Title Trophy. Its a historical symbol that has run its course especially with the nickname issue too. Get into the same conference, and get a new trophy. Quote
siouxrunner Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Of course it should go to the winner of the game. It is a part of the history of the rivalry and should continue to be so. No new trophy would ever be as good as The Nickel. Quote
WYOBISONMAN Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Retire it along with the name and stick it down at the State Historical Society in Bismarck. I have always thought there should be a display at the Heritage Center featuring the retirement of the Sioux name. It should be a part of that. As for a new trophy......if the teams play.....and it will be every other year if at all......does not need a trophy. NDSU playing UND is basically a gift to a program that is wetting its collective pants to have a game with NDSU. That is not deserving of a trophy. 1 Quote
siouxforeverbaby Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 What does the overall record have to do with the fact that I think that the trophy should be in a museum where everyone can see it. Will it make you happier if I said it should have a plaque that has a list of all the Nickel game scores on it? He wasn't even talking about your post. He quoted another person with a post that had a hint of sarcasm to it. For the record, I don't think it should be in a museum because it was never about EVERYONE getting to enjoy it all of the time. It was about the winning team getting to enjoy it. NDSU knew that they would probably never see it again after they lost that last game. And right now, the only people that enjoy it are the 5 people that keep it safe. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 As for a new trophy......if the teams play.....and it will be every other year if at all......does not need a trophy. NDSU playing UND is basically a gift to a program that is wetting its collective pants to have a game with NDSU. That is not deserving of a trophy. Ha, that last batch of Kolpack kool-aid must've been mixed pretty strong.... Quote
darell1976 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Retire it along with the name and stick it down at the State Historical Society in Bismarck. I have always thought there should be a display at the Heritage Center featuring the retirement of the Sioux name. It should be a part of that. As for a new trophy......if the teams play.....and it will be every other year if at all......does not need a trophy. NDSU playing UND is basically a gift to a program that is wetting its collective pants to have a game with NDSU. That is not deserving of a trophy. I am sure Prairie View is wetting themselves too. 1 Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 He wasn't even talking about your post. He quoted another person with a post that had a hint of sarcasm to it. For the record, I don't think it should be in a museum because it was never about EVERYONE getting to enjoy it all of the time. It was about the winning team getting to enjoy it. NDSU knew that they would probably never see it again after they lost that last game. And right now, the only people that enjoy it are the 5 people that keep it safe. The person he was referring to was most likely me. So you are saying that a trophy that was rewarded to the winner for 65 years should stay hidden somewhere when the game isn't even played anymore and the Sioux nickname is probably gone? It belongs in a museum. It is a pretty cool trophy especially when compared to some of the stupid ones other schools play for. Everyone deserves to be able to see it at this point. 75% of this poll so far believes the Nickel should not be played for, if it shouldn't be played for, in your opinions, then it doesn't belong hidden somewhere in Grand Forks. There is no reason that it shouldn't be in a museum now. I am sure Prairie View is wetting themselves too. Prairie View is wetting themselves as well, just for other reasons Quote
darell1976 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 The person he was referring to was most likely me. So you are saying that a trophy that was rewarded to the winner for 65 years should stay hidden somewhere when the game isn't even played anymore and the Sioux nickname is probably gone? It belongs in a museum. It is a pretty cool trophy especially when compared to some of the stupid ones other schools play for. Everyone deserves to be able to see it at this point. 75% of this poll so far believes the Nickel should not be played for, if it shouldn't be played for, in your opinions, then it doesn't belong hidden somewhere in Grand Forks. There is no reason that it shouldn't be in a museum now. Prairie View is wetting themselves as well, just for other reasons It should be in the lobby of the Alerus for all to see!! Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 It should be in the lobby of the Alerus for all to see!! Isn't UND building a 35,000 seat retractable roofed stadium at Memorial? Might as well just wait until that is done. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Isn't UND building a 35,000 seat retractable roofed stadium at Memorial? Might as well just wait until that is done. good point, use it as the cornerstone Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 good point, use it as the cornerstone Well since it was my idea, I better be invited to the groundbreaking ceremony. Heck, I'll send my kid instead. I'll be in the nursing home. Quote
FargoBison Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 It should go to the winner of the football game, not sure why things need to change. The trophy has historical significance that goes beyond the nickname and any new trophy just wouldn't do the rivalry justice. Quote
siouxforeverbaby Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 The person he was referring to was most likely me. So you are saying that a trophy that was rewarded to the winner for 65 years should stay hidden somewhere when the game isn't even played anymore and the Sioux nickname is probably gone? It belongs in a museum. It is a pretty cool trophy especially when compared to some of the stupid ones other schools play for. Everyone deserves to be able to see it at this point. 75% of this poll so far believes the Nickel should not be played for, if it shouldn't be played for, in your opinions, then it doesn't belong hidden somewhere in Grand Forks. There is no reason that it shouldn't be in a museum now. I can give you one reason on why it shouldn't be in a museum. COST. There would have to be other stuff in the collection that relates to that, if you don't have that....you have to obtain it. If there is not room or the room available is not suited to displaying that collection, you must remodel. Then, you go into the cost of preserving and conserving it. The Nickel Trophy while not in an excellent archival place for it, is currently being protected as much as possible for the people that have it. 1 Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 I can give you one reason on why it shouldn't be in a museum. COST. There would have to be other stuff in the collection that relates to that, if you don't have that....you have to obtain it. If there is not room or the room available is not suited to displaying that collection, you must remodel. Then, you go into the cost of preserving and conserving it. The Nickel Trophy while not in an excellent archival place for it, is currently being protected as much as possible for the people that have it. Oh dear, you are seriously using cost as a reason that the Nickel shouldn't be in a museum? Who cares? All they'd have to do is put the trophy behind a glass case and have a sign for it describing the trophy's significance. Right now you sound stupid for claiming cost as a reason to not put it in a museum. The state has a boatload of money, I'm pretty sure we can afford to pay a few hundred bucks for a display case....we don't need a seperate room for it. Quote
WYOBISONMAN Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 I am sure Prairie View is wetting themselves too. How is Aakers Business College poised to do this year in football.........oh.......wait........the place you went to school doesn't even play sports........LMAO! :lol: Quote
darell1976 Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 How is Aakers Business College poised to do this year in football.........oh.......wait........the place you went to school doesn't even play sports........LMAO! :lol: Yes they don't play sports, and your point being? Quote
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