82SiouxGuy Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I think Hansen has the job all but wrapped up. Can you define what you mean by good arm? From what I saw in his passes last year Bradley had an average arm at best by high school standards. Maybe my standards are too high but when someone one hops a bubble screen to the field side I don't see a good arm. Kind of hard to make a decision on how good an arm a QB has from one play like that. He could have short-armed it, lost his grip, been distracted or even hit be a defensive player, etc. I've seen plenty of good QBs bounce short passes. He threw a few long balls that had good distance, but not great touch or accuracy. I think he was a work in progress and may be better than what he showed the first half of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I think Hansen has the job all but wrapped up. Can you define what you mean by good arm? From what I saw in his passes last year Bradley had an average arm at best by high school standards. Maybe my standards are too high but when someone one hops a bubble screen to the field side I don't see a good arm. Compared to Landry in 2010. Bradley's Arm was better than Landry but accuracy is what hurt him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Compared to Landry in 2010. Bradley's Arm was better than Landry but accuracy is what hurt him. You honestly think he has a better arm than Landry? You do realize Landry had a 90+ mph fastball in highschool right? Landry had a very very strong arm. Bradley not so much. Coaches commented on Landry's arm strength, they've mentioned anything but that with Bradley. Next time you see a UND practice watch Bradley throw and then watch the other QBs throw, particularily Hendrickson and you should notice a big difference in velocity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Kind of hard to make a decision on how good an arm a QB has from one play like that. He could have short-armed it, lost his grip, been distracted or even hit be a defensive player, etc. I've seen plenty of good QBs bounce short passes. He threw a few long balls that had good distance, but not great touch or accuracy. I think he was a work in progress and may be better than what he showed the first half of last season. Theres a reason he was replaced by Goska nuff said 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Theres a reason he was replaced by Goska nuff said He was replaced because they weren't completing enough passes and because the team wasn't moving the ball well. Goska was a better leader, and he added the running dimension. His passing wasn't a whole lot better, although he had a couple of decent games at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I could not believe how inept Bradley was last season. He never passed for over 200 yards in a game when he just put up great numbers for his JUCO team granted they were probably a team that threw a lot. The first couple of games Bradley did look pretty good but the receivers just could not catch the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I could not believe how inept Bradley was last season. He never passed for over 200 yards in a game when he just put up great numbers for his JUCO team granted they were probably a team that threw a lot. The first couple of games Bradley did look pretty good but the receivers just could not catch the ball. I wonder if Bradley didn't lose some confidence after all of those drops. He might have been putting pressure on himself to make perfect throws, which made it even harder to make good throws. He definitely had a rough season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSSD Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 You honestly think he has a better arm than Landry? You do realize Landry had a 90+ mph fastball in highschool right? Landry had a very very strong arm. Bradley not so much. Coaches commented on Landry's arm strength, they've mentioned anything but that with Bradley. Next time you see a UND practice watch Bradley throw and then watch the other QBs throw, particularily Hendrickson and you should notice a big difference in velocity. I have to agree with you on this one. Landry had a big arm... and he was tough SOB. Finishing a game with a torn ACL against Poly not many people can do that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSSD Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 General thoughts on Bradley: 1) Throws well on short timing routes 2) In general, I thought that he read coverages well - at time he tried to force the ball. 3) Lacked arm strength and accuracy on longer routes 4) Not very mobile 5) Manages the game well and looked good getting the team in position with his reads and checks In his defense he was thrown into the starting role last year and he now has another year in the system. It looks like he has put on weight so he must be training hard. He has room for improvement and I am looking forward to seeing what year two brings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 He was replaced because they weren't completing enough passes and because the team wasn't moving the ball well. Goska was a better leader, and he added the running dimension. His passing wasn't a whole lot better, although he had a couple of decent games at the end of the season. Please don't make me post the passing stats for each guy from last year. Bradley's stats are terrible. You sound like you're a huge fan of him. I was hoping he would be the real deal when he came in last year but after the first game it was very clear that he didn't have it. I've seen enough of the practices to notice that Hansen is at another tier, there is a reason he was rated 18th in the nation coming out of high school. His touch and reads are unreal and he has barley been in the system. After a summer and fall camp I think he will be the best we've had since Freund except this time the guy is 6'5" with a stronger arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSSD Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Please don't make me post the passing stats for each guy from last year. Bradley's stats are terrible. You sound like you're a huge fan of him. I was hoping he would be the real deal when he came in last year but after the first game it was very clear that he didn't have it. I've seen enough of the practices to notice that Hansen is at another tier, there is a reason he was rated 18th in the nation coming out of high school. His touch and reads are unreal and he has barley been in the system. After a summer and fall camp I think he will be the best we've had since Freund except this time the guy is 6'5" with a stronger arm. I am really execited to see Hansen and if your Freund comparison is true... we will be in good hands and will make some noise in the big sky. Because the offense has been very limited the last two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Please don't make me post the passing stats for each guy from last year. Bradley's stats are terrible. You sound like you're a huge fan of him. I was hoping he would be the real deal when he came in last year but after the first game it was very clear that he didn't have it. I've seen enough of the practices to notice that Hansen is at another tier, there is a reason he was rated 18th in the nation coming out of high school. His touch and reads are unreal and he has barley been in the system. After a summer and fall camp I think he will be the best we've had since Freund except this time the guy is 6'5" with a stronger arm. I don't know what you're reading. I said that Bradley didn't show a lot of accuracy or touch on long passes and that they didn't complete nearly enough passes. Receivers did drop a few of his passes early in the season. I said that he had a rough season. And I said he was a work in progress. That means he should show some improvement this year. Most players should show improvement from year to year. I said that Goska did a better job because he was a better leader and could run, which Bradley couldn't do. And that Goska threw better the last few games. But Goska is not a great passer either. He completed 7% more of his passes and 25 yards per game more than Bradley. He also through 2 more interceptions than Bradley on a total of 3 more attempts. And the yards per completion difference was less than 1 (Goska was at 10.9 and Bradley 10.1). Neither had great passing stats. I haven't seen Hanson at all. And I didn't compare Bradley to him. Hanson could be a huge improvement. I expect Bradley to be a better QB this coming year than he was last year. A lot of young players can make a lot of improvement over time. I don't get where you thought I was a huge fan of Bradley's. Just relax and enjoy watching some UND football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I don't know what you're reading. I said that Bradley didn't show a lot of accuracy or touch on long passes and that they didn't complete nearly enough passes. Receivers did drop a few of his passes early in the season. I said that he had a rough season. And I said he was a work in progress. That means he should show some improvement this year. Most players should show improvement from year to year. I said that Goska did a better job because he was a better leader and could run, which Bradley couldn't do. And that Goska threw better the last few games. But Goska is not a great passer either. He completed 7% more of his passes and 25 yards per game more than Bradley. He also through 2 more interceptions than Bradley on a total of 3 more attempts. And the yards per completion difference was less than 1 (Goska was at 10.9 and Bradley 10.1). Neither had great passing stats. I haven't seen Hanson at all. And I didn't compare Bradley to him. Hanson could be a huge improvement. I expect Bradley to be a better QB this coming year than he was last year. A lot of young players can make a lot of improvement over time. I don't get where you thought I was a huge fan of Bradley's. Just relax and enjoy watching some UND football. You said that there wasn't a big difference between the two, which, given what Goska meant to last years team as the heart and soul, was a little bit of a slap in the face. Goska's passing efficiency was 128.0 Bradley was 99.0. In four starts Goska passed for 999 yards which is basically 200 more than Bradley in 7 starts. Goska passed for 9 TDs to Bradley's 3. Comp % Goska not very good at 59% and Bradley at a Jamarcus Russel-like 52%. The point being, Goska made a massive difference for last years team. Bradely could make a huge jump like Goska did as a passer, but given his machanics, stature, arm strength, pocket awareness, and leadership I don't see him being better than Hansen this year or Comes next year. I like the guy but I just don't see a D1 qb when I watch him play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 You said that there wasn't a big difference between the two, which, given what Goska meant to last years team as the heart and soul, was a little bit of a slap in the face. Goska's passing efficiency was 128.0 Bradley was 99.0. In four starts Goska passed for 999 yards which is basically 200 more than Bradley in 7 starts. Goska passed for 9 TDs to Bradley's 3. Comp % Goska not very good at 59% and Bradley at a Jamarcus Russel-like 52%. The point being, Goska made a massive difference for last years team. Bradely could make a huge jump like Goska did as a passer, but given his machanics, stature, arm strength, pocket awareness, and leadership I don't see him being better than Hansen this year or Comes next year. I like the guy but I just don't see a D1 qb when I watch him play. You are reading things into what I said. Neither had a good year passing. Goska was better, but not up to the level of a good quality DI QB. Goska got better performance out of the team because of his leadership, his running ability and somewhat better passing stats. They had almost exactly the same number of pass attempts, so they split the season fairly equally even though Bradley had more starts. QB and receiver both need to improve this year if the team is going to compete in the Big Sky because both were below average for FCS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeauxSioux Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 You honestly think he has a better arm than Landry? You do realize Landry had a 90+ mph fastball in highschool right? Landry had a very very strong arm. Bradley not so much. Coaches commented on Landry's arm strength, they've mentioned anything but that with Bradley. Next time you see a UND practice watch Bradley throw and then watch the other QBs throw, particularily Hendrickson and you should notice a big difference in velocity. Hendrickson has a gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Hendrickson has a gun. I've seen him hit the roof of the Alerus at the 50 yard line with a throw. My jaw was on the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I think Bradley's biggest issue was the change in the size and speed of guys coming at him from HS to JUCO to DI-AA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 How does PJ Sparks look? What kind of runningback is he? How much playing time do you expect him to get this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 How does PJ Sparks look? What kind of runningback is he? How much playing time do you expect him to get this season? He reminds me alot of Josh Murray. More powerful and hard nosed with more pop behind his pads and better long speed. He's very strong for a freshman and fast enough. But when you look at the depth chart this year doesn't favor him. Miller Sutton Garmin then Sparks if he's ahead of Butler if he comes back and Shagaubay. Should be a very solid special teams contributor and could get mop up duty but I don't see alot of carries next year barring injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Sutton, been there done that...he should be the guy that only gets the carries in mop up duty. Should be Miller, Garmin, Sparks, Shagaubay, and then Sutton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Miller, been there done that...he should be the guy that only gets the carries in mop up duty. Should be Miller, Garmin, Sparks, Shagaubay, and then Sutton. care to elaborate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Not a big fan of Sutton. Not that fast and seems to get hurt a lot. Reminds of the old D2 types that Lenon had. Miller can take a short run and turn it into a 90 yard td like in Fresno. Sutton would have been caught around midfield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Not a big fan of Sutton. Not that fast and seems to get hurt a lot. Reminds of the old D2 types that Lenon had. Miller can take a short run and turn it into a 90 yard td like in Fresno. Sutton would have been caught around midfield? I can't say Sutton is fast because he's not, but he is a load. The reason he gets hurt is becuase of how he runs and where he runs. He runs through people instead of around like Jake. At about 230 we need that type of physical back on our team. He gives our offense the balance it needs. Jake and Jer are quicker and faster but they won't be breaking too many tackles any time soon like Sutton does. They all compliment eachother and give us a well rounded backfield for next season which is very exciting. Also don't forget that Sutton was dominant against Fresno St. until he pulled his hammy. He's no Jake Miller but he can still ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodcon Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Not a big fan of Sutton. Not that fast and seems to get hurt a lot. Reminds of the old D2 types that Lenon had. Miller can take a short run and turn it into a 90 yard td like in Fresno. Sutton would have been caught around midfield? You had Miller instead of Sutton in your first post that's what threw us off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 my bad!!! sorry...i'm a huge miller fan. not so much on sutton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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