NewUndFan Posted February 28 Posted February 28 12 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: You think those Utah schools add any value? I think they add next to nothing. Let's be honest, the Summit League isn't going to attract anything more than schools with no place else to go. Sad, but true. Exactly. So you would prefer another South Dakota division two school at the bottom of the summit ? Quote
NewUndFan Posted February 28 Posted February 28 20 minutes ago, FSSD said: The dumbest thing possible is adding SUU and Utah Tech. UND men's basketball lost to Utah tech. So you think the bottom of a division 2 conference is a better fit Give me a break. Southern Utah use to have good basketball. I'm not saying anyone of those two teams is my first choice but for sure not thinking augie , sioux falls and northern state should join the league. That's just stupid and will never happen Quote
nodakvindy Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/26/2025 at 11:07 AM, nodak651 said: It's being widely reported that the Big West is voting to add Utah Valley and Cal Baptist on Friday, which could bring the league down below 6. NIU to the Horizon is also official. Sounds like if the Summit want's the Texas schools they will need to beat out the A-Sun. Would be nice if everyone could get together and parse out the remain schools. Southern Utah and Utah Tech to the Big Sky Texas schools to the Summit. You could then Have divisions in the Summit North - Dakotas plus Denver and St. Thomas South - Texas, ORU, Omaha and Kansas City At some point Denver probably gets their wish and goes to WCC, maybe Summit can convince Northern Iowa to join. Nice travel partner for St. Thomas and would get you to 7 football schools. Loyola credits are drying up and MVC isn't what it once was in hoops, so Summit could be enticing. 3 Quote
FSSD Posted February 28 Posted February 28 1 hour ago, FSSD said: Best option is to pass.. 1 hour ago, FSSD said: There is no need to add schools at this point in time.... 1 hour ago, NewUndFan said: Adding Augie would be the dumbest thing possible. Right now their men's basketball team is 12th in the northern sun and you'd prefer them over a division one school ? Western left on their own to save money with a closer conference not kicked out. The south Dakota schools will never let Augie in. They wanted in when they went with st. Thomas. And yes we do need more then 9 teams To be clear, my vote is to Pass and not add schools. What does adding SUU and Utah Tech solve for the Summit League. They should be in the Big Sky with with N. Arizona and Weber St. They do nothing for the Summit League. 2 Quote
NewUndFan Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Unfortunately doesn't matter what either one of us think. The commissioner sounds like he has made his decision to add both Utah teams and he is paid to make those decisions. He obviously sees the advantages of having them in the league. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 42 minutes ago, nodakvindy said: Would be nice if everyone could get together and parse out the remain schools. Southern Utah and Utah Tech to the Big Sky Texas schools to the Summit. You could then Have divisions in the Summit North - Dakotas plus Denver and St. Thomas South - Texas, ORU, Omaha and Kansas City At some point Denver probably gets their wish and goes to WCC, maybe Summit can convince Northern Iowa to join. Nice travel partner for St. Thomas and would get you to 7 football schools. Loyola credits are drying up and MVC isn't what it once was in hoops, so Summit could be enticing. If Denver gets their wcc wish.... Fenton calls and says enjoy the wcha or ccha bitches Lock em up just like st Thomas 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 1 hour ago, NewUndFan said: Unfortunately doesn't matter what either one of us think. The commissioner sounds like he has made his decision to add both Utah teams and he is paid to make those decisions. He obviously sees the advantages of having them in the league. What would the "advantages" be again....other then Fenton increasing his job security in the short term until a better bigger job counts around and he bolts... Again So far Fenton has been as the youngsters say..... Mid Quote
Sioux>Bison Posted March 1 Posted March 1 Merging the Summit, NCHC and football into one conference would be the best for the stability of all sports. Schools need to look at the big picture and make all their sports secure by combining into one conference 2 Quote
NewUndFan Posted March 1 Posted March 1 I seen some rumors now out there that maybe we get the Texas schools to come here and form a new football conference. I do think we need to try and use the strength of our football teams to strengthen the summit league. 1 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 11 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said: Merging the Summit, NCHC and football into one conference would be the best for the stability of all sports. Schools need to look at the big picture and make all their sports secure by combining into one conference 100% Let's say Fenton can grab the two Texas schools and maybe grab Drake or NIU---which he could if SELLS the Summit League for once.... Summit Oly-12 full North Division UND NDAC USD SDAC St Thomas Drake/UNI? South Division Omaha Kansas City Oral Bob Denver Tarleton Abilene Christian Summit Hockey-4 full with 4 affiliates UND Omaha Denver St Thomas affiliates..... ASU, Duluth, Western Mich, CC (drop Miami and SCSU)...leave space for future acha bump ups---UNLV?) Summit Football-7 full UND NDAC USD SDAC Tareleton ACU Drake/UNI where's fenton? 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 12 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said: Merging the Summit, NCHC and football into one conference would be the best for the stability of all sports. Schools need to look at the big picture and make all their sports secure by combining into one conference and one DAMN streaming/media rights for all of it!!!!!! 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 2 hours ago, NewUndFan said: I seen some rumors now out there that maybe we get the Texas schools to come here and form a new football conference. I do think we need to try and use the strength of our football teams to strengthen the summit league. weird that you are using "secure" and the "summit league" in one sentence bc for the whole history of the league it's been the opposite but fenton has a chance to make this league a rare league with hockey and football and maybe actually "secure" .........for once. lock em up fenton Quote
NewUndFan Posted March 1 Posted March 1 44 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: I just dont see Drake or UNI moving from the Missouri Valley to the summit. When all the Dakota schools I think would move to the Missouri valley full time if they had a chance. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 19 minutes ago, NewUndFan said: I just dont see Drake or UNI moving from the Missouri Valley to the summit. When all the Dakota schools I think would move to the Missouri valley full time if they had a chance. Agreed it would be a stretch for Drake but would UNI even field a football team is they had to play murray state and indiana state and whatnot...plus what if Fenton moved Summit football to FBS....FCS without the Dak4 is essentially d2 or worser... Each current member or future member needs to be "locked in".... For Denver, Omaha, ST Thomas it would be Summit Hockey.......you want MVC or Big East here's Lucia's number...have fun on those trips to Hougton in December. For the two Texas schools it's football...best FCS football would be Summit Football with or without UNI or Drake...better than the UAC thingy they are doing now playing North Alabama and WEstern Georgia ST?? NDAC and or SDAC want Conf-USA football....have fun with your oly sports in _____ conference.... And heck....Summit academics v MVC academics aren't what they used to when MWC had Loyola and whatnot and the Summit had whatever dogs they've had over the years...the scale has tipped dramatically in the last ten years between the 2 on academics in the direction of the summit league.... 1 Quote
NewUndFan Posted March 1 Posted March 1 20 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: Agreed it would be a stretch for Drake but would UNI even field a football team is they had to play murray state and indiana state and whatnot...plus what if Fenton moved Summit football to FBS....FCS without the Dak4 is essentially d2 or worser... Each current member or future member needs to be "locked in".... For Denver, Omaha, ST Thomas it would be Summit Hockey.......you want MVC or Big East here's Lucia's number...have fun on those trips to Hougton in December. For the two Texas schools it's football...best FCS football would be Summit Football with or without UNI or Drake...better than the UAC thingy they are doing now playing North Alabama and WEstern Georgia ST?? NDAC and or SDAC want Conf-USA football....have fun with your oly sports in _____ conference.... And heck....Summit academics v MVC academics aren't what they used to when MWC had Loyola and whatnot and the Summit had whatever dogs they've had over the years...the scale has tipped dramatically in the last ten years between the 2 on academics in the direction of the summit league.... I like it! Now Fenton needs to get going on something,anything ! 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 hearing that the utah schools are more replacements for if/when mwv grabs oral bob, umkc, and or omaha only omaha and their hockey program could be "locked up"...so maybe mwc grabs bobby and the roos we get suu and dixie state but grabbing a couple of those Texas teams to get to "6" and create/start summit football should be priority for fenton.... f patty.... Quote
NewUndFan Posted March 1 Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: hearing that the utah schools are more replacements for if/when mwv grabs oral bob, umkc, and or omaha only omaha and their hockey program could be "locked up"...so maybe mwc grabs bobby and the roos we get suu and dixie state but grabbing a couple of those Texas teams should be priority for fenton.... I agree the Texas schools need to be a priority but kc was rejected by the Missouri valley dont see them leaving. 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 1 minute ago, NewUndFan said: I agree the Texas schools need to be a priority but kc was rejected by the Missouri valley dont see them leaving. in the past the mwc was in a postion of strenght with their members...now it's any port in the storm and the roos or the mavs or the bobs are a port in the storm..... fenton HAS to use "your either with us or against us" with current and future members....non of the temp stuff the summit has been used to for years/decades. the creation of summit football and the death of mvfc is priority one and summit hockey is priority two... lfg 2 Quote
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